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Red Queen (Red Queen, #1)
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Apr 16, 2014
bookshelves: edelweiss, superheroes-superhero-like-powers, riddikulus, i-hate-this-heroine, esp, dystopian, i-bloody-hate-cheaters, rabid-reads-reviews, science-fiction, ya, cover-whore, what-the-hype, i-am-so-bored, made-me-lose-my-damn-mind
Reviewed by: Rabid Reads
This book didn't start out terribly.
I mean, come on . . . royals with superpowers? And a heroine from amongst the downtrodden servant class? Okay, yes, that does sound kind of familiar, especially considering that said downtrodden heroine is a Red, but beyond that I didn't feel like there were many similarities. And as much as I love Red Rising and Golden Son , I would jump all over it if I thought this book was a copycat.
BUT. Sold as I was (at first), the heavy-handed descriptions and comparisons, piled on top of unnecessary flourishes, piled on top of still more comparisons . . . *sighs*
For example:
"Backs bent by work" was sufficient to get the point across. "Unanswered hope" lent poignancy. BUT "the inevitable disappointment" blah, blah, turned a statement that could have been a powerful illustration into overkill.
Was this an isolated incident? *snorts*
Hey, lady! This concept:
It's a good one. FYI.
And that wasn't the only problem:
1. I hadn't given much thought to why I typically crave bloodthirstiness from my heroines. Previously, when it was an issue, it was in regards to only two types of characters: those who stepped up, and those who didn't.
Turns out there's a third type.
She who makes the hard decision:
Dithers over that decision:
(Damn right, he is. And a husband, and a son, and a grandson, and maybe an uncle and a nephew, too. THEY ALL ARE, you daft cow.)
Then sticks her head in the sand like a fraking ostrich after the decision is carried out:
I've said before that if you're going to be an assassin, you need to own it.
I'm adapting that statement: if you're going to kill someone for the "greater good," you need to be decisive about it. And if you're having legitimately conflicted thoughts, then maybe you shouldn't be killing anyone. But regardless, YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
You don't go all Scarlett O'Hara and say, "I'll think about that tomorrow." *flutters hands delicately*
You know why? B/c Scarlett O'Hara would make a damn terrible assassin, that's why.
And Mare Barrow makes an equally terrible freedom fighter. She's this BAFFLING combination of ruthlessness, pragmatism, compassion, self-entitlement, and poor self-esteem that causes her to constantly second guess herself.
Beyond that . . . I'm not sure how down I am with the cause.
It's one thing to kill in the heat of battle or to premeditatedly take out a Bad Guy, but to play god, picking and choosing who will die b/c their death will create more chaos than that-person-over-there . . .?
*frowns and squints*
The whole scenario sat poorly with me. But my reasons for being uncomfortable were totally different than Mare's, so instead of bonding with her, I wanted to smack her.
Sometimes MCs make mistakes. They're supposed to learn from those mistakes--that's what humanizes them, that's what spurs character growth--but Mare never takes a hard look at herself. She stays almost completely two-dimensional, and I say almost, b/c she's too selfish to be truly flat.
2. Then there's (if you haven't started noticing it already) the melodrama:
Crying . . . in the rain. Then comparing herself . . . to MAKEUP . . . and coming up short . . . Really?
But this one's my favorite:
So long ago?
Hmm . . . you like tacos, too? That's CRAZY. Me, I friggin' love tacos. It is a small world.
3. I don't hate all love triangles . . .
When they don't get ridiculous, sometimes I even like the tension they create.
BUT.
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
And I'm going to have to stop, b/c I'm nearing my (self-imposed) word limit. But know that as well as being melodramatic and a coward, Mare Barrow is also self-centered, irrational, AND inconsistent. If you really want to hear me rant some more, I'll spoiler tag it in my Goodreads review. Beyond that, the book was 100% predictable, and the methods employed to overthrow the corrupt government were every bit as reprehensible as the government itself. Not recommended.
SPOILERY rant time! Starting where I left off: (view spoiler)
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This book didn't start out terribly.
I mean, come on . . . royals with superpowers? And a heroine from amongst the downtrodden servant class? Okay, yes, that does sound kind of familiar, especially considering that said downtrodden heroine is a Red, but beyond that I didn't feel like there were many similarities. And as much as I love Red Rising and Golden Son , I would jump all over it if I thought this book was a copycat.
BUT. Sold as I was (at first), the heavy-handed descriptions and comparisons, piled on top of unnecessary flourishes, piled on top of still more comparisons . . . *sighs*
For example:
The only thing that serves to distinguish [Reds], outwardly at least, is that Silvers stand tall. Our backs are bent by work and unanswered hope and the inevitable disappointment with our lot in life.
"Backs bent by work" was sufficient to get the point across. "Unanswered hope" lent poignancy. BUT "the inevitable disappointment" blah, blah, turned a statement that could have been a powerful illustration into overkill.
Was this an isolated incident? *snorts*
Hey, lady! This concept:
It's a good one. FYI.
And that wasn't the only problem:
1. I hadn't given much thought to why I typically crave bloodthirstiness from my heroines. Previously, when it was an issue, it was in regards to only two types of characters: those who stepped up, and those who didn't.
Turns out there's a third type.
She who makes the hard decision:
"Are you with us, Mare Barrow?" he says, his hand closing over mine. More war, more death, Cal said. But there's a chance he's wrong. There's a chance we change it.
My fingers tighten, holding on to Will. I can feel the weight of my action, the importance behind it.
"I'm with you."
"We will rise," he breathes, in unison with Tristan. I remember the words and speak with them. "Red as the dawn."
In the flickering candlelight, our shadows look like monsters on the walls.
Dithers over that decision:
"Children." The words rip out of me. "He's a father."
(Damn right, he is. And a husband, and a son, and a grandson, and maybe an uncle and a nephew, too. THEY ALL ARE, you daft cow.)
Then sticks her head in the sand like a fraking ostrich after the decision is carried out:
All together, twelve died last night, but I refuse to learn their names. I can't have them weighing on me . . .
I've said before that if you're going to be an assassin, you need to own it.
I'm adapting that statement: if you're going to kill someone for the "greater good," you need to be decisive about it. And if you're having legitimately conflicted thoughts, then maybe you shouldn't be killing anyone. But regardless, YOU TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
You don't go all Scarlett O'Hara and say, "I'll think about that tomorrow." *flutters hands delicately*
You know why? B/c Scarlett O'Hara would make a damn terrible assassin, that's why.
And Mare Barrow makes an equally terrible freedom fighter. She's this BAFFLING combination of ruthlessness, pragmatism, compassion, self-entitlement, and poor self-esteem that causes her to constantly second guess herself.
Beyond that . . . I'm not sure how down I am with the cause.
It's one thing to kill in the heat of battle or to premeditatedly take out a Bad Guy, but to play god, picking and choosing who will die b/c their death will create more chaos than that-person-over-there . . .?
*frowns and squints*
The whole scenario sat poorly with me. But my reasons for being uncomfortable were totally different than Mare's, so instead of bonding with her, I wanted to smack her.
Sometimes MCs make mistakes. They're supposed to learn from those mistakes--that's what humanizes them, that's what spurs character growth--but Mare never takes a hard look at herself. She stays almost completely two-dimensional, and I say almost, b/c she's too selfish to be truly flat.
2. Then there's (if you haven't started noticing it already) the melodrama:
My hands wipe at my eyes, though my tears are long lost in the rain, leaving behind only an embarrassingly runny nose and some black makeup. Thankfully, my silver powder holds. It's made of stronger stuff than I am.
Crying . . . in the rain. Then comparing herself . . . to MAKEUP . . . and coming up short . . . Really?
But this one's my favorite:
"I wish things were different," he whispers, but I can still hear him.
The words take me back to my home and my father when he said the same thing so long ago . . .
So long ago?
. . . To think that Cal and my father, a broken Red man, can share the same thoughts makes me pause.
Hmm . . . you like tacos, too? That's CRAZY. Me, I friggin' love tacos. It is a small world.
3. I don't hate all love triangles . . .
When they don't get ridiculous, sometimes I even like the tension they create.
BUT.
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
And I'm going to have to stop, b/c I'm nearing my (self-imposed) word limit. But know that as well as being melodramatic and a coward, Mare Barrow is also self-centered, irrational, AND inconsistent. If you really want to hear me rant some more, I'll spoiler tag it in my Goodreads review. Beyond that, the book was 100% predictable, and the methods employed to overthrow the corrupt government were every bit as reprehensible as the government itself. Not recommended.
SPOILERY rant time! Starting where I left off: (view spoiler)
I don't know, I DON'T KNOW.["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>["br"]>
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Jan 27, 2015 02:42AM
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Lucia wrote: "Looking forward to your review! I have a feeling you hated same things as I did..."
Highly possible, I'd say ;)
Highly possible, I'd say ;)
Patrycja wrote: "I was looking forward to it, now I am not sure if it's for me. Great and honest review, Jessica."
Thanks, Patrycja! And I'm in the minority, so . . . *shrugs* Lots of people liked it as much as I hated it . . . maybe . . . I really hated it . . .
Thanks, Patrycja! And I'm in the minority, so . . . *shrugs* Lots of people liked it as much as I hated it . . . maybe . . . I really hated it . . .
I LOVE THIS REVIEW, JESSICA! A few of my friends have read and loved it, and I only read the first couple of chapters and I kinda like it so far. But still early to tell if I'd like the whole book, anyhow. Sorry it didn't work for you :/
Great review! I 100% agree about Mare being self-centered. In fact, she may be the most self-centered and unusable heroine ever since she NEVER paid attention to important things that were happening around her. Her hormonal melodramatic outbursts and thoughts were driving me crazy! This book shows us what happens when lame person gets special abilities... Moving on.
Lisa wrote: "I LOVE THIS REVIEW, JESSICA! A few of my friends have read and loved it, and I only read the first couple of chapters and I kinda like it so far. But still early to tell if I'd like the whole book,..."
LOL, thanks, Lisa! I wish you better luck than I had ;)
LOL, thanks, Lisa! I wish you better luck than I had ;)
Lucia wrote: "Great review! I 100% agree about Mare being self-centered. In fact, she may be the most self-centered and unusable heroine ever since she NEVER paid attention to important things that were happenin..."
*rolls eyes* "Me, me ,me, me, I, I, I, I." GAH. I can't remember the last time I hated a heroine this much.
*rolls eyes* "Me, me ,me, me, I, I, I, I." GAH. I can't remember the last time I hated a heroine this much.
Kelly wrote: "I loved the cover too and the book looked promising...sigh....nice review Jessica."
Thanks, Kelly! Covers like this one should could with warning labels ;)
Thanks, Kelly! Covers like this one should could with warning labels ;)
I KNOW. I think I get hung up on ideas being repeated more than names/labels. But yes, there are undeniable similarities on that front. As if there wasn't enough, LOL.
Anne wrote: "Love the review! You crack me up like nobody else, Jessica.
*wipes tears*"
*preens* Thanks, Anne! You crack me up too ;)
*wipes tears*"
*preens* Thanks, Anne! You crack me up too ;)
Igor wrote: "What won't people write to keep the plebes happy.
Igor"
*snickers* I didn't say it, you did.
Igor"
*snickers* I didn't say it, you did.
This review=exactly how I felt about this book. Selfish heroine AND a love triangle that involves brothers. If a love triangle isn't done well, that's bad enough but BROTHERS??!!
Hmmm . . . you like tacos too? That's CRAZY. Me, I friggin' love tacos. It is a small world after all. <-- You crack me up! Seriously. And PS: I love tacos too! *snorts*
Every time I see "Mare Barrow", my brain reads "Bone Marrow". Why do characters have to have such ridiculous names these days?
Miko wrote: "This review=exactly how I felt about this book. Selfish heroine AND a love triangle that involves brothers. If a love triangle isn't done well, that's bad enough but BROTHERS??!!"
ALL of it. Terrible. But yes, brothers is just . . . tasteless. *flares nostrils* <-----can't help it. It's knee jerk.
ALL of it. Terrible. But yes, brothers is just . . . tasteless. *flares nostrils* <-----can't help it. It's knee jerk.
Cristina wrote: "Hmmm . . . you like tacos too? That's CRAZY. Me, I friggin' love tacos. It is a small world after all. <-- You crack me up! Seriously. And PS: I love tacos too! *snorts*"
My point exactly. *rolls eyes* Two people saying, "I wish things were different," is just about the most asinine way to make a deep-down-we're-all-the-same connection I've ever seen. *stomps down urge to rant some more*
My point exactly. *rolls eyes* Two people saying, "I wish things were different," is just about the most asinine way to make a deep-down-we're-all-the-same connection I've ever seen. *stomps down urge to rant some more*
La Coccinelle wrote: "Every time I see "Mare Barrow", my brain reads "Bone Marrow". Why do characters have to have such ridiculous names these days?"
LOL!! I can't think of any others, but yeah, her's was a little bit silly ;)
LOL!! I can't think of any others, but yeah, her's was a little bit silly ;)
This book has rec'd so many depressingly bad reviews, and I was so excited about it. Great quote about the word "subtle" btw, and yes, lots of nostril flaring regarding messing around with brothers.
Not I, said the fly! But I'm not the only one. There are two other people on this thread alone who gave it 2 stars, but yes, we are the overwhelming minority. To each their own, as they say ;)
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I'm about halfway through and my soul is like STOP! END THIS TORTURE NOW! YOU'RE KILLING ME!
But, on the other hand, it's all so ridiculous that I want to continue. It's just so horrible and ridiculous.
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'So you want to join the resistance, Son? You do know that overthrowing the current government will contribute to the loss of your entire family and pretty much all your power within this social structure. Hell, seeing as you're the second Prince, you'll probably die too, just in case. Can't have them silvers rallying behind you, can we? Still wanna join?'
2nd Prince: 'Yup.'
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'You sure?'
2nd Prince: 'Yup.' *Drags poor Red who has absolutely no motivation to lie at all /coughcoughcough/ to ubber secret meeting. 'See? He'll vouch I'm a changed person.'
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'Okei-Dokei. Sounds legit. Here's the secret handshake.'
And that whole slavery thing! Really? REALLY? You're educated and you have a choice. You haven't been working in the fields from dusk to dawn since you were 5 years old. You're not beaten bi-weekly just because. You didn't have to fend off the dogs when the master puts your food in an animal trough and ... you think you're a slave?
Pick any third world country and this MC has it better, and she thinks she's a slave? Oh Lord. FFS.
But, on the other hand, it's all so ridiculous that I want to continue. It's just so horrible and ridiculous.
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'So you want to join the resistance, Son? You do know that overthrowing the current government will contribute to the loss of your entire family and pretty much all your power within this social structure. Hell, seeing as you're the second Prince, you'll probably die too, just in case. Can't have them silvers rallying behind you, can we? Still wanna join?'
2nd Prince: 'Yup.'
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'You sure?'
2nd Prince: 'Yup.' *Drags poor Red who has absolutely no motivation to lie at all /coughcoughcough/ to ubber secret meeting. 'See? He'll vouch I'm a changed person.'
Ubber Scary Resistance Leader with Ubber Scary Scar: 'Okei-Dokei. Sounds legit. Here's the secret handshake.'
And that whole slavery thing! Really? REALLY? You're educated and you have a choice. You haven't been working in the fields from dusk to dawn since you were 5 years old. You're not beaten bi-weekly just because. You didn't have to fend off the dogs when the master puts your food in an animal trough and ... you think you're a slave?
Pick any third world country and this MC has it better, and she thinks she's a slave? Oh Lord. FFS.
I gave the book 3 stars as opposed to your 1, but I agree entirely with virtually everything you wrote here, especially the completely obvious betrayal at the end.
I read your review before I read the book, and when I got to the part where she was comparing herself to make-up, I just lost it. Such an atrocious book.
Sorry, I just finished this one yesterday, and...
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
LOL! Yeah, I didn't hate it as much as you did, but that line is sooooo perfect. I may not write a review, I'll just steal all of your funny quotes, ok?
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
LOL! Yeah, I didn't hate it as much as you did, but that line is sooooo perfect. I may not write a review, I'll just steal all of your funny quotes, ok?
Alisi ☆ needs to stop starting new books ☆ wrote: "I'm about halfway through and my soul is like STOP! END THIS TORTURE NOW! YOU'RE KILLING ME!
But, on the other hand, it's all so ridiculous that I want to continue. It's just so horrible and ridic..."
YEP. Pretty awful :/
But, on the other hand, it's all so ridiculous that I want to continue. It's just so horrible and ridic..."
YEP. Pretty awful :/
Piper wrote: "Oh my god I love you I just finished this book and don't see why people love it so much"
I love you, too, LOL. And I really, really don't get all the love either. o.O
I love you, too, LOL. And I really, really don't get all the love either. o.O
Regina wrote: "same i gave it a three but everything you said is why the book rubbed me the wrong way."
Andrew wrote: "I gave the book 3 stars as opposed to your 1, but I agree entirely with virtually everything you wrote here, especially the completely obvious betrayal at the end."
Maybe I just felt a bit more vehemently about all those things ;)
Andrew wrote: "I gave the book 3 stars as opposed to your 1, but I agree entirely with virtually everything you wrote here, especially the completely obvious betrayal at the end."
Maybe I just felt a bit more vehemently about all those things ;)
Elizabeth wrote: "I read your review before I read the book, and when I got to the part where she was comparing herself to make-up, I just lost it. Such an atrocious book."
YEP. It's pretty terrible. *shakes head*
YEP. It's pretty terrible. *shakes head*
Anne wrote: "Sorry, I just finished this one yesterday, and...
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
LOL! Yeah, I didn't hate it ..."
HA! Works for me. I think my absolute hatred might have stemmed from having just previously read several ridiculously good books immediately beforehand . . . otherwise I might have laughed off some of the nonsense like I have with other YAs. Luck of the draw, I guess ;)
There is something inherently sordid about messing around with brothers. It's tacky. Don't do it. *flares nostrils*
LOL! Yeah, I didn't hate it ..."
HA! Works for me. I think my absolute hatred might have stemmed from having just previously read several ridiculously good books immediately beforehand . . . otherwise I might have laughed off some of the nonsense like I have with other YAs. Luck of the draw, I guess ;)
Anne brought me here. It was worth it. Thanks for the laughs and reasons why I won't touch this
Kat Stark wrote: "Anne brought me here. It was worth it. Thanks for the laughs and reasons why I won't touch this"
Hey! Anne didn't say not to touch it, just that Jess' review was funny. She's still wrong. Hilarious, but wrong. ;)
Hey! Anne didn't say not to touch it, just that Jess' review was funny. She's still wrong. Hilarious, but wrong. ;)
>_> Anne. there is totally too much bad going on in this story. You can't save this for me.
Jessica (Rabid Reads) wrote: "HA! Nothing can save this. Not for me, anyway ;)"
I dunno. A rain of stones killing all them tall, beautiful, and tally beautiful model-y people could've gone a long way...
I still need to finish this. >.> I just stare at the book, trying to gather up resolve, and I keep failing. /sigh
I dunno. A rain of stones killing all them tall, beautiful, and tally beautiful model-y people could've gone a long way...
I still need to finish this. >.> I just stare at the book, trying to gather up resolve, and I keep failing. /sigh