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Men Must Fight

  • 1933
  • Passed
  • 1 Std. 12 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
6,2/10
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Phillips Holmes, Lewis Stone, and Diana Wynyard in Men Must Fight (1933)
DramaKriegScience-Fiction

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuWWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to f... Alles lesenWWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to fight, losing Peggy and dividing his family.WWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to fight, losing Peggy and dividing his family.

  • Regie
    • Edgar Selwyn
  • Drehbuch
    • C. Gardner Sullivan
    • S.K. Lauren
    • Reginald Lawrence
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Diana Wynyard
    • Lewis Stone
    • Phillips Holmes
  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
  • IMDb-BEWERTUNG
    6,2/10
    418
    IHRE BEWERTUNG
    • Regie
      • Edgar Selwyn
    • Drehbuch
      • C. Gardner Sullivan
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Reginald Lawrence
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Diana Wynyard
      • Lewis Stone
      • Phillips Holmes
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  • Siehe Produktionsinformationen bei IMDbPro
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    Diana Wynyard
    Diana Wynyard
    • Laura Seward
    Lewis Stone
    Lewis Stone
    • Edward Seward
    Phillips Holmes
    Phillips Holmes
    • Bob Seward
    May Robson
    May Robson
    • Maman Seward
    Ruth Selwyn
    Ruth Selwyn
    • Peggy Chase
    Robert Young
    Robert Young
    • Geoffrey Aiken
    Robert Greig
    Robert Greig
    • Albert
    Hedda Hopper
    Hedda Hopper
    • Mrs. Chase
    Don Dillaway
    Don Dillaway
    • Steve Chase
    • (as Donald Dilloway)
    Mary Carlisle
    Mary Carlisle
    • Evelyn
    Luis Alberni
    Luis Alberni
    • Soto
    Mary Gordon
    Mary Gordon
    • Pacifist Audience Member
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Sherry Hall
    • Protesting Audience Member
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Arthur Housman
    Arthur Housman
    • Drunk on Ship
    • (Nicht genannt)
    Anderson Lawler
    Anderson Lawler
    • Mr. Siebert - Reporter
    • (Nicht genannt)
    George Magrill
    George Magrill
    • Stretcher Bearer
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    Bert Moorhouse
    Bert Moorhouse
    • Pacificist Audience Member
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    Lee Phelps
    • Secret Service Escort
    • (Nicht genannt)
    • Regie
      • Edgar Selwyn
    • Drehbuch
      • C. Gardner Sullivan
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Reginald Lawrence
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    GManfred

    Morality Play

    Old-fashioned movie of the kind no longer made. It is filmed like a stage play, which it was before brought to the screen by MGM. It is Pre-code, but there is nothing salacious or untoward in the screenplay which would raise objections. It is about a woman who raises her son to be a pacifist after her lover (his father) is killed in WW I. She marries a man who knows her secret, and who becomes adjutant to the Sec'y. of State. As the picture draws on the situation comes to a head with an agreeable resolution.

    The characters are hyperbolic and this story would never go over with contemporary audiences as illustrated here, especially the story's preachy message. It is saved by skillful acting performances and by the introduction of some glimpses into the future; the film uses a primitive form of TV, but it is used only in telephone conversations. Additionally, the writer has correctly foretold the coming of WWII almost to the year. An interesting and absorbing movie to watch and reflect on how far motion pictures have come in 85 years.
    6wes-connors

    War Beats Peace

    During the Great War (aka World War I), British-accented nurse Diana Wynyard (as Laura Mattson) suffers tragically. Understandably, she becomes a fervent pacifist. In 1918, many believed the "war to end war" had occurred. Decades later, it's 1940. Looking great for her advanced years, Ms. Wynyard is married to US Secretary of State Lewis Stone (as Edward "Ned" Seward). They have raised a pacifist son, handsome chemical engineer Phillips Holmes (as Robert "Bob" Seward). When a Second World War breaks out in Europe, the pacifist ideals of Wynyard and the draft-aged Mr. Holmes are tested...

    From a short-lived 1932 Broadway play, this film predicts what many people once considered unlikely - that another "world war" would follow the "war to end all wars." There were fewer predicting this in the 1930s than the countless speculation about World War III. We don't use the "picture phone" depicted, but the writers and adapters were remarkably correct in some main events. However, this is not really a film about picture phones and chemical weapons...

    Living up to its title, "Men Must Fight" is a pro-war story. The thesis is that pacifists are wrong...

    Moreover, a clearly sexist attitude explains Wynyard and her ilk. Also representing the "weaker" gender are director Edgar Selwyn's pretty wife Ruth, and the inimitable May Robson. Holmes is brought up hating war, but this threatens to render him a spineless sissy; in order to be valued and accepted, the character must reform. Considering all this, the closing scene is despicable. The arguments for why people "must fight" wars, which the film makes more subtly, are undermined by the heavy-handedness. In an ironically sad postscript, Holmes enlisted in the real World War II and died in a 1942 plane crash.

    ****** Men Must Fight (2/17/33) Edgar Selwyn ~ Diana Wynyard, Phillips Holmes, Lewis Stone, May Robson
    10Ron Oliver

    Provocative Polemic

    While MEN MUST FIGHT wars, it is the women who wait and strive for peace.

    This is a fascinating film, all but forgotten now, which both pleads for peace yet urges action against violent aggressor nations. By supplying strong characters to voice both sides, sometimes changing their minds mid-film, MEN MUST FIGHT tries to please everyone without alienating anyone. Politics aside, it is possible to enjoy the film strictly on the basis of its good acting and compelling production values.

    Beginning during World War One, the movie quickly jumps to 1940, where it tries to predict not only the fashions but also the geopolitics seven years hence from its production. Although the future enemy is called ‘Eurasia,' careful observation during the Coliseum anti-war rally clearly shows the Nazi swastika and the Imperial Japanese Rising Sun flag among the montage of dangers, eight years before America's entry into the still-distant World War Two, proving the prescience of the film's creators.

    Distinguished English actress Diana Wynyard is a standout as the woman who has seen too much of war's death and tries valiantly to convince others to renounce all warfare. She is well matched by Lewis Stone as her pacifist husband who must rethink his beliefs after high governmental office forces him to confront real dangers. These two excellent performers ably show the full force their decisions have on their most intimate relationships.

    Phillips Holmes gives a compelling performance as Wynyard's conflicted son--caught between pacifism & patriotism, he shows the stress going through the mind of any young man facing a really difficult decision. Ironically, considering the film's conclusion, this fine young actor would be killed in a midair collision in Ontario in August of 1942, preparing to fight the Nazis as a member of the Canadian Air Force

    Elderly May Robson makes one of her typically energetic film appearances as Lewis' sharp-tongued mother. Pretty Ruth Selwyn does well with her undemanding role as Holmes' patriotic fiancée; stately Hedda Hopper plays her strong-minded mother. Robert Young makes the most of his very brief role as the flier who is the great love of Wynyard's life. Rotund Robert Greig steals a few scenes as Robson's spirited butler.

    Movie mavens will recognize Arthur Housman as a shipboard inebriate and Mary Gordon as a spectator during the Coliseum rally, both uncredited.

    The film's pre-Code status is well demonstrated by its gentle mocking of patriotism and the way in which the opening scenes frankly present Wynyard & Young as unmarried lovers.
    ChungMo

    Ambivalent Melodrama about War and Human Behavior

    A strange combination of political foresight, a moral philosophy debate and unchecked patriotic jingoism. This isn't a great dramatic film for a lot of reasons but is a great thought provoker. This film should be viewed in high schools and colleges precisely because it takes both side of the issue so strongly. For example, while the script blames the mother for making her son into a pacifist and goes about celebrating the men who go to a certain death defending their country, it lets the pacifist grandmother have the final word in the movie.

    The foresight about Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan's war plans is very chilling. It's also interesting that this was around the start of the US pacifist movement that some say was partially financed by Nazi Germany to keep the US out of their way.

    While the film is done in that creaky early thirties acting style, the script gives the characters quite a bit of nuance. By the end you can't tell what side the filmmakers were on. Almost all of the intelligent quotes come out of the pacifists but the US is attacked and thousands die because of them. The anti-pacifists frequently come off as very violent and crude. Triumphant military music plays when the troops march out and fly off.

    This film should be seen with the more entertaining but similar "Things To Come"

    Some technical notes: the sound is very bad at points during the last ten minutes on the TCM print which I assume came from the MGM vault. The destruction of the Empire State Building, which is very disturbing to look at these days, was ridiculous. It would have taken much more then the one dinky bomb that came off the enemy bi-plane.
    7blanche-2

    fascinating film

    Lewis Stone, Diana Wynyard, Robert Young, and Phillips Holmes star in "Men Must Fight," a 1933 film. The movie starts with a young nurse, Laura (Wynyard) and her lover (Young) as he prepares to go off to World War I. He's killed; she's pregnant, and a rejected suitor, Ned Seward (Stone) offers to marry her and give the child his name. Laura vows that no son of hers will ever fight in a war.

    Flash forward to 1940, and Seward is now Secretary of State, working on a peace treaty, with Laura's help. Their son Robert (Holmes) is a talented chemist and in love with Peggy (Ruth Selwyn). Unfortunately, the peace treaty fails, and the country is going to war with "Eurasia." Seward advises Laura that she will have to stop her peace-making attempts and objections to war, but she refuses. Having raised her son as a pacificist, Robert refuses to enlist, to the disgust of Peggy.

    The film was made in 1933, but obviously the signs of conflict were already in the air; if one looks carefully at an anti-war rally that takes place in the film, one will see the Japanese sun and the Nazi swastika. Pretty amazing.

    The acting by today's standards, with the exception of Stone, is quite melodramatic, as is the dialogue. The handsome Holmes, who himself died right after flight training in Canada, is good as the conflicted Robert. Diana Wynyard, too, is very good, but both actors have very over the top dialogue to say.

    Very, very interesting film, and well worth seeing, with some excellent battle scenes.

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      Although produced in 1933, the bulk of the film takes place in 1940; events depicting the start of World War II are, of course, fictional and strictly futuristic, but nonetheless on target as far as the date is concerned.
    • Patzer
      During the air raid, the Empire State Building is shown to be destroyed. Later when Bob's flight group flies off by the New York skyline, the Empire State Building is seen.
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      Edward Seward: Hello son.

      Bob Seward: Dad!

      Edward Seward: Well, remember me?

      Bob Seward: [Bob hugs Edward, his father. Then, steps back] Well, they'll think we are a couple of Frenchmen.

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      (1906) (uncredited)

      Written by Charles A. Zimmerman, Alfred Hart Miles and R. Lovell

      Played during the naval scenes

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 17. Februar 1933 (Vereinigte Staaten)
    • Herkunftsland
      • Vereinigte Staaten
    • Sprache
      • Englisch
    • Auch bekannt als
      • What Woman Give
    • Drehorte
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, Kalifornien, USA
    • Produktionsfirma
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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