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Pioniere in Ingolstadt

  • Fernsehfilm
  • 1971
  • 1 Std. 24 Min.
IMDb-BEWERTUNG
6,3/10
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Günther Kaufmann in Pioniere in Ingolstadt (1971)
ComedyDramaRomance

Füge eine Handlung in deiner Sprache hinzuBerta, a naive young maid, searches for love when the army engineers come to town to build a bridge.Berta, a naive young maid, searches for love when the army engineers come to town to build a bridge.Berta, a naive young maid, searches for love when the army engineers come to town to build a bridge.

  • Regie
    • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
  • Drehbuch
    • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Marieluise Fleißer
  • Hauptbesetzung
    • Hanna Schygulla
    • Harry Baer
    • Irm Hermann
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    6,3/10
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    • Regie
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Drehbuch
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
      • Marieluise Fleißer
    • Hauptbesetzung
      • Hanna Schygulla
      • Harry Baer
      • Irm Hermann
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    Hanna Schygulla
    Hanna Schygulla
    • Berta
    Harry Baer
    Harry Baer
    • Karl
    Irm Hermann
    Irm Hermann
    • Alma
    Rudolf Waldemar Brem
    Rudolf Waldemar Brem
    • Fabian Unertl
    Walter Sedlmayr
    Walter Sedlmayr
    • Fritz Unertl
    Klaus Löwitsch
    Klaus Löwitsch
    • Feldwebel
    Carla Egerer
    Carla Egerer
    • Frieda
    • (as Carla Aulaulu)
    Günther Kaufmann
    Günther Kaufmann
    • Max
    Burghard Schlicht
    • Klaus
    Elga Sorbas
    Elga Sorbas
    • Marie
    Gunter Krää
    • Gottfried
    Ulli Lommel
    Ulli Lommel
    • Zeck
    • Regie
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
    • Drehbuch
      • Rainer Werner Fassbinder
      • Marieluise Fleißer
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    4claudio_carvalho

    Dull, Amateurish and Pointless

    In an undefined period of time in Germany, the virgin maid Berta (Hanna Schygulla) expects to find her Prince Charming among the soldiers that are building a bridge over an old river. Her friend Alma (Irm Hermann) is a slut that shags during the night with different soldiers in the park or in the toilet of a nightclub and asks for money for her services.

    When Berta meets the soldier Karl Lettner (Harry Baer), she falls in love with him. A couple of days later, she makes love with him and he says "Auf Wiedersehen" (goodbye) to her.

    "Pioniere in Ingolstadt" is a dull, amateurish and pointless film by Rainer Werner Fassbinder. The period of time is inconsistent: based on the car, the clothing and the hairstyle, it seems to be 1971 but the soldiers wear Nazi uniforms. Further, the characters are thrown on the screen without any previous development. My vote is four.

    Title (Brazil): "Pioneiros in Ingolstadt" ("Pioneers in Ingolstadt")
    6Quinoa1984

    fine, but for Fassbinder completists only

    Pioneers of Ingolstadt is one of the early works of the inspired, prolific dramatic director RW Fassbinder, and it may be a very good minor work but minor all the same. It's about a group of soldiers who have been brought to the small town of Ingolstadt to build a bridge. Not much drama happens there as that goes as planned; the meat of the film is the interactions with the local women (i.e. Hanna Schygulla, Irm Herrmann who one might recall from The Merchant of Four Seasons), and how they have some varied personalities (Schygulla wants true love, Herrmann likes to fool around, another girl has... her own thoughts), while the men are, perhaps by design, practically all the same.

    It speaks to how much I like Hannah Schygulla and some of Fassbinders other early/consistent players that this was not only watchable but okay, though at the same time it left me wanting more from the characters and from some of the filmmaking itself. As I have worked through Fassbinder's early filmography (as in before Whity and Beware of a Holy Whore and his breakthrough year 1972), I have found it somewhat hit and miss. Even more then his other work, this has such a detached feeling about it, how everyone is disillusioned but also holding back their emotions (in the Bressonian influence I'm sure), and I felt something I don't like when I'm watching a Fassbinder film: boredom.

    Its like, we get it, these soldiers toiling at this small town bridge and the local girls who have nothing much else better to do than spend their time with these "pioneers" as they're ironically called, are at best aimless and at worst miserable and cruel and (in their way perhaps) more or less deserve each ether. But this point is driven by Fassbinder, adapting a play he didn't write for German TV, to the point where I didn't care that much for anyone. If it weren't for the natural screen presence of (most of) the actors it might be one or Rainer's lessor films - or, to put it another way, he's explored many of the same themes in other, stronger, more memorable works, or at least with more memorable characters.

    And who knows, maybe it wasn't the best idea for me to check this out at the end of a very long work day on 5 hours of sleep. It also doesn't help that the cameraman here has some strange inspirational ideas like... Having a cheap one-light on a camera pointed at actors walking and talking in a dark street. But that's just one example.
    8treywillwest

    nope

    This was the first Fassbinder's films to get any kind of remotely mainstream distribution. It finds the autuer in an interesting transitional phase from the Bresson-by-way-of-Straub/Huillet aesthetic of his earliest films to the Sirkian melodrama of what is considered his "mature" style. This movie is also a fascinating, rare depiction of life under the Nazis before the beginning of WWII and the horrors we most associate with the Reich. Here, the Nazi "Pioneers" are almost like New Deal-style government sponsored work crews, improving the national infrastructure. But the film repeatedly implies that the march to war and slaughter were not merely the result of orders from above but also of the overboiling ids of men injected with nationalist and militarist fantasies who had no way of fully working out their violent/sexual impulses in their own cultural milieu.
    7Itchload

    Rough Fassbinder

    If there's one thing that really bothers me about Fassbinder's history is how boggled his film chronology is. For someone who improved at such a consistent rate, it's really annoying in the case of his first 11 "anti-theater" films, that no one seems to know what order they came in.

    According to the information on the recent DVD issue of this movie, "Pioneers" is the last of those first 11. Now, I could have sworn that "Beware of a Holy Whore" was Fassbinder's 11th film (which would make more sense, given that movie's self-reflexive 'biting the hand that feeds you' nature). Alas, maybe this one is number 11.

    On a technical level, this is very much "early Fassbinder", which is best evidenced by Dietrich Lohmann's early cinematography. When working with Michael Ballhaus, Fassbinder was able to have his camera swoop around his characters. Even if they still weren't doing anything, it at least gave some external feel to the movie. Dietrich Lohmann is the polar opposite. He just points the camera, and occasionally pans it, as in one seen that pans back and forth between two characters talking for about 5 minutes. Fassbinder always loved long takes, and always liked giving a theatrical look to his movies, especially the early ones. Michael Ballhaus was able to nail this, but Lohmann's camera work always seemed a bit amateur. It worked great in "Effi Briest", and certain scenes of "Merchant of Four Seasons" and "American Soldier", but I can see why Michael Ballhaus slowly became Fassbinder's preferred camera man going into the mid-'70s.

    That said, this movie is also indicative of Fassbinder's early career in that is stars seedy low lives. Before, he usually used gangsters, here he uses whores and bored, drunken soldiers (or 'pioneers'). They sit and drink and do typical Fassbinder stuff (occasionally have sex, occasionally beat someone up). There's some plot here and there. It definitely gives you what you're looking for when renting a Fassbinder movie, but certain scenes had a Fassbinder-by-numbers quality. In one of the final scenes, Hanna Schylla starts chasing after the morally bankrupt guy she's fallen in love with. I said under my breath "she's going to trip and fall and start to cry". I was right. Maybe I've seen too many Fassbinder movies, or maybe Fassbinder was treading a bit too much water with this one.

    Like I said, this movie does the trick if you're looking for a Fassbinder fix, and in that, I have to commend it. It's just a movie best reserved for the devoted fans.
    7elo-equipamentos

    Fassbinder makes an early sketch over sex thematic's approach!!!

    I really enjoy Fassbinder pictures, they have a sex thematic, exploiting this vast field not yet properly expanded, he makes an early sketch about to came, in a small city soldiers coming to build a rustic wooden bridge, then women's town interact with these soldiers hoping getting marry or something, however Alma (Irm Hermann) a beauty girl who just wants make sex by money, such behavior bother other single women on their purposes, Bertha (Hanna Schygulla) a former friend of Alma finds a lonely soldier who she falling in love, seemingly a right choice, among all this portrait Fassbinder expose to the audience his criticism and pessimism over this stormy hard days, aside some unfit sequence the movie flow easily, it's an art movie, it shall be treat as such, whatever other readings will be clearly doomed to failure, the ornery German Rainer Werner Fassbinder was an avant-garde director and deserves a better understanding over this stylized work!!!

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    First watch: 2020 / How many: 1 / Source: DVD / Rating: 7.5

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    • Erscheinungsdatum
      • 19. Mai 1971 (Westdeutschland)
    • Herkunftsland
      • Westdeutschland
    • Sprache
      • Deutsch
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      • Pioneers in Ingolstadt
    • Drehorte
      • Landsberg am Lech, Bavaria, Deutschland
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