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11 settembre 1683

  • 2012
  • R
  • 1h 54min
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11 settembre 1683 (2012)
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En el verano de 1683, 300.000 guerreros del Imperio Otomano iniciaron el asedio de Viena. La caída de la ciudad habría abierto el camino para conquistar Europa. El 11 de septiembre tuvo luga... Leer todoEn el verano de 1683, 300.000 guerreros del Imperio Otomano iniciaron el asedio de Viena. La caída de la ciudad habría abierto el camino para conquistar Europa. El 11 de septiembre tuvo lugar la batalla entre polacos y turcos.En el verano de 1683, 300.000 guerreros del Imperio Otomano iniciaron el asedio de Viena. La caída de la ciudad habría abierto el camino para conquistar Europa. El 11 de septiembre tuvo lugar la batalla entre polacos y turcos.

  • Dirección
    • Renzo Martinelli
  • Guionistas
    • Valerio Manfredi
    • Renzo Martinelli
    • Alessandro Leone
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    • F. Murray Abraham
    • Andrea Iaia
    • Enrico Lo Verso
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    • Dirección
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Guionistas
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
    • Elenco
      • F. Murray Abraham
      • Andrea Iaia
      • Enrico Lo Verso
    • 55Opiniones de los usuarios
    • 8Opiniones de los críticos
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    F. Murray Abraham
    F. Murray Abraham
    • Marco D'Aviano
    Andrea Iaia
    Andrea Iaia
    • Giovanni Cristofori
    Enrico Lo Verso
    Enrico Lo Verso
    • Karà Mustafà
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    • King Jan III Sobieski
    Alicja Bachleda
    Alicja Bachleda
    • Duchess of Lorena
    • (as Alicja Bachleda Curus)
    Piotr Adamczyk
    Piotr Adamczyk
    • Leopoldo I
    Claire Bloom
    Claire Bloom
    • Rosa Cristofori
    Matteo Branciamore
    • Eugenio of Savoia
    Marius Chivu
    • Father Cosma
    Antonio Cupo
    Antonio Cupo
    • Duke of Lorena
    Giorgio Lupano
    • Count Stahremberg
    Federica Martinelli
    • Lena
    Gianni Musy
    • Carlo Cristofori
    Daniel Olbrychski
    Daniel Olbrychski
    • Katski
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
    • Leila
    • (as Isabella Orsini)
    Borys Szyc
    Borys Szyc
    • Sieniawski
    Yorgo Voyagis
    Yorgo Voyagis
    • Abu'l
    Hal Yamanouchi
    Hal Yamanouchi
    • Murad Giray
    • Dirección
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Guionistas
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
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    3marcin_kukuczka

    Belittles History and Epic Genre

    The title of the film, THE BATTLE OF VIENNA, rightly leads viewers to an assumption that they are going to see an epic production dealing with an important moment in the European history - the 1680s and the siege of Vienna. Undeniably, 1683 saw the turning point for the western world and its identity. Deserveably, the tribute in the form of the newest motion picture depicting this historic battle is a desirable achievement. For years, many history film buffs looked forward to its screen adaptation. Although there have been certain plans, they somehow did not materialize for several reasons. And here it is at last, a film directed by Renzo Martinelli starring some great international and Polish cast. With this challenging project, however, they should have kept in mind one thing: as our experience with the genre gets richer, our expectations naturally grow higher. What expectations?

    Some await a spectacle, some look forward to historical accuracy, some preferably cherish the fictitious plots and characters creatively inserted into the historic moments. Unfortunately, Martinelli's movie does not meet any of these expectations and, sadly, disappoints a variety of viewers at multiple levels.

    Amidst the storm of criticism among movie scholars, viewers can do their best to put up with innumerable flaws and try to find some positive aspects about a production. Nevertheless, it appears almost impossible in this case. If there is something positive or at least occurs to be promising, sooner or later, there turns up something that almost disqualifies the movie's producers, director and crew. The theme is serious but the backbone is a pure soap opera, cheap entertainment that leaves even a contemporary movie buff disappointed - not to mention learned historians. Let me consider some aspects more briefly.

    JAN SOBIESKI and MARCO D'AVIANO: The two iconic figures of the historical moment, the religious and the military leader, are unforgivably diminished/distorted under Martinelli's direction. While Sobieski (Jerzy Skolimowski) is an almost background character diminished to some two or three scenes (no viewer, particularly the one who is not very acknowledged of history, can ever see the Polish king as the crucial victor of the battle), Marco d'Aviano is an almost fairy tale-like miracle worker.

    SOBIESKI: Where is his charisma? Where is his military genius? Where is his detailed written correspondence with Pope Innocent XI? Where are his historic words he wrote to the pope after the battle paraphrasing Julius Caesar "Venimus, vidimus, Deus vicit" What do we get of Skolimowski's portrayal of the king? Just an episodic, supporting monarch...

    MARCO D'AVIANO seems to be the protagonist of the film. He indeed has far more time on the screen. Played by wonderful F Murray Abraham, we have a clearer picture of the character. But the problem is what this picture has to do with the historical Marco d'Aviano or Carlo Dominico Cristofori... The terribly flawed and ridiculous (at moments) script did not allow even such a good actor as Murray Abraham to deliver something really powerful. The flashback to the youth itself with the alleged meeting with Kara Mustafa (when both were boys) is something that has no logical bases. It seems there is much of a miraculous or rather magical existence in his life. However, the director, for a number of reasons some intentional and some coincidental, ignored the jeopardy of a serious border that exists within depiction of the supernatural: border between a mystique experience and a mere laughable product of fantasy. Just to mention the sequence with the wolf (the priest's ancestor). What purpose does it serve?

    OTHER HISTORICAL FIGURES: It would be unjust to start with yet another European. The winners take it all, true, and it has been so throughout centuries but let me highlight Kara Mustafa here played by just adequate Enrico LoVerso. As a matter of fact, there is nothing extraordinary about the portrayal of this key character so eager to spread the Ottoman Empire westwards. At the beginning, through some cheap computerized effects, we may get an idea of what he is like, the general impression might be quite impressive but in the second half of the movie, the character goes totally pale. The person who deserves credit is Piotr Adamczyk as Leopold I, the emperor of Austria. His performance, at least, leaves a certain idea of a ruler quite incapable of gathering the army but proud enough to refuse asking for help. Historically, this portrayal takes innumerable liberties again but at least, it is Adamczyk's interesting performance that viewers may enjoy (from the artistic point of view, I mean). The rest of the performances are worth soap opera. Sorry to say that but I think that I am not the only viewer who has that impression.

    And the BATTLE itself? That would be the major point of criticism. It is diminished, belittled and cannot captivate a viewer whatsoever. This point, of course, refers to modern cinematic possibilities which allow for something truly spectacular. The reconstruction of the Vienna of the time (referred to as "Golden Apple" and the second, after Rome, greatest city of the continental Europe of the time) at the siege resorts merely to computerized packed images of some church towers (the ones of Minoritenkirche, Michaelerkirche and the copula of Karlskirche) and some almost laughable images of buildings. And what does the priest Marco D'Aviano do whilst the battle? He stands on a hill, shouts at the enemy in a Moses-like position and carries...something that thoroughly disqualifies even the soap epic...a bent, post-modern cross designed by Lello Scorzelli (so called 'Scorzelli staff) and carried by some recent popes, particularly John Paul II. Yes, Marco d'Aviano is supposed to be John Paul II for a moment... Great idea, isn't it?

    A few years will pass and no one will be able to rescue such movies from oblivion...there is a danger that history and epic genre will also be belittled through such crap productions. A remake highly recommended.
    Kirpianuscus

    not great but...

    without special effects. without the ingredients of blockbuster. a film about hope and faith and an Europe front to a great danger more than a historical movie. because it is not exactly portrait of an episode from past but a remember. a film about change of a world. reflection about power and about ambition. maybe, the speeches of the characters are not always inspired. maybe, the siege from 1683 must have a most inspired adaptation. but it remains an useful film. as beginning search for the story of one of greatest events from the XVII century. for the discover the last centuries's source for Ottoman Empire. for admire the history not as a story but as a kind of mirror for present. because, the Vienna's siege , like many other great moments from the past, is not exactly one lesson. but a seed for our every day life.
    7borismk-38942

    A decent film despite being understandably (but unfairly) disliked in modern times

    Most of the flack for this film probably comes from the fact that it portrays Christians as the good guys. People love to talk about the Crusades and condemn Christian history whilst events like the expansionist attacks of the Ottoman Empire are largely ignored.

    From an objective perspective the film could use some improvement, the CGI is fairly poor at points, some of the acting is over the top and I'm guessing the specific accuracy of events is probably questionable.

    That being said, I do feel the film accurately conveys the spirit of the times and the attitudes of the people who lived them. Abraham deserves a lot of credit for his performance of a largely forgotten (but highly significant) figure of European history, Marco D'Aviano. Of course it's unpopular nowadays to remember people whose faith largely led to positive outcomes, not just in defeating the enemy but also showing them mercy and compassion in victory.

    All in all, I wish there were more movies like it
    5AttyTude0

    Make your own decision

    Well, I see that posters either loved this film, or hated it.

    It is more than obvious that those who hated it did so for political reasons. Pick any reason. The uniforms are not accurate. The history is all wrong (yeah, everybody is a history professor). It's racist (but you expected that would pop up, didn't you). It's only for Catholics (well, finally something for Catholics). The acting is bad (I've seen worse).

    Someone complained that F. Murray Abraham spends the whole film screaming. Er, no. Only in two scenes. In one he was addressing an entire army. And in another he was trying to make himself heard over the thunder of battle. May I politely remind our distinguished critic that there were no microphones in those days?

    It also looks like that the mention of the date of the event - Sept 11 - went down some tender throats like battery acid. Yeah, those historical coincidences are a (bleep). Haters of this film also wasted no time pointing out that critics panned the film (and we know that critics are infallible). Well, consider it from their perspective. These exalted critics must have remembered what happens when a certain religion is mentioned in an unfavorable light (Charlie Hebdo, anyone?). So maybe the critics panned the film more out of prudence than displeasure.

    Is the film perfect? No. Is is 100% accurate? I NEVER saw a 'historical' film that got the historical facts 100% right. And I've been around a good bit. But I enjoyed Day of the Siege.

    IAC, watch the film and make your own decision. A quaint concept, I know. But some of us still believe stick to it.
    4psainc

    Oops! they got the wrong staff...

    Not a complete review, although I think the film was modestly entertaining, it's hard to do a sweeping epic style film on a very modest budget of only $12 MM.

    So, my offering is a bit of trivia, an "oops" in the film. About 2/3 through or thereabouts, we see F. Murray Abraham carrying/holding a papal-like silver staff. It has a slightly down-turned cross, with a crucifix of a very thin and stretched out Jesus attached.

    The problem, although a beautiful and imaginative design, is that that particular staff was designed by Lello Scorzelli, from Naples Italy, in 1965—just about 300 years later than the time of the historical period!

    The Scorzelli Staff has been carried by the last 3 Popes, among other ferula, not counting the other staffs. I just think they chose it for the beauty, but I recognized it immediately, did any of you?

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      The siege is presented as a battle between Catholic Christianity and Turkish Islam. In the real war there were Protestant, Eastern Orthodox and Muslim states and mercenaries (including a small number of Turks) supporting the Holy League and Christian states supporting the Turks. The Principality of Wallachia, an Orthodox Christian vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, secretly sabotaged the Turkish siege and was providing intelligence to Austria.
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      Marco D'Aviano: [Speaking to the council] Your Majesties, Excellencies, I am only a poor monk. I know nothing of strategies or plans of attack. But I do know that Vienna represents the survival of Christianity. I know that if you have faith, you will win. If you remain united, you will win. So if the King of Poland says he knows how to win this battle, let him explain it to us.

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      • 12 de octubre de 2012 (Polonia)
    • Países de origen
      • Italia
      • Polonia
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      • Official site (Japan)
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      • The Day of the Siege: September Eleven 1683
    • Locaciones de filmación
      • Royal Castle, Old Town, Sródmiescie, Varsovia, Mazovia, Polonia
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      • Martinelli Film Company International
      • Agresywna Banda
      • RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana
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