Frontier

Really enjoyed watching this series, made a change to the thousands of documentaries already out there about the civil war and wild west.

Coming in from a European perspective, it was great to see the story told from another angle and so interesting to hear about things that you don't often hear about on this side of the water.

Totally eye opening to way in which land was obtained, just a slightly modernised version of the empires of the past. Really got me thinking, which is exactly what I want from a good documentary.

Those that were moaning about a "white guilt trip" need a serious self reflection moment after comments like that.

A highly biased, highly opinionated, one-sided, shallow, and not very thought-provoking viewpoint of the formative years of the United States of America. Virtually every "historian" or "subject matter expert" featured has at least one axe to grind against America and an overwhelming interest in communicating only their narrow, anti-American perspective of the evils of American history. There is always more than one viewpoint when interpreting history, but unfortunately, this "documentary" is too intellectually lazy to even offer up lip service to the importance of the life risking achievements and incredible sacrifices of the individual in America's westward expansion and the creation of American exceptionalism. This "documentary" simply focuses on the conspiratorial evils of the American elites and the America government in the country's westward expansion and sees those everyday individuals who actually risked everything - including their very lives - to make it happen as little more that useful idiots. Mix in heavy doses of the evils of slavery, genocide and rampant capitalism and you have a leftist feast on anti-American hate.

This series is not really about the wild frontier or the birth of a nation, but rather all the evil things white men did to natives and slaves. You learn very little about history and even the civil war is condensed to a 5 minute clip where we are mostly reminded about the massacre of a couple hundred indians. Really? Over 600.000 casualties during the war and this incident that wasn't even a footnote in the bigger picture gets the limelight? It seems that nothing positive happened after the independence struggle. It was all murder and mayhem. Really sad viewing really, a white guilt trip at most.

This is an excellent documentary.

I felt it dispelled many myths about the West, especially cowboys. Yes, as another reviewer mentioned, a white guilt-trip (deservedly), but "History is not there for you to like or dislike. It's there for you to learn from". Loved all the maps and re-enactments. Only complaint is such small writing when explaining interviewee's name and occupation, but many documentaries make that mistake. Guess I need a 70" television! Sure do wish they'd shown documentaries like this in history class when I was in school years and years ago. Really makes it easy to understand the timelines and makes history feel real. I'm hoping creators of this series make more.

The show's fine if you never read a single book or knew anything about the topic. It gives a good overview and has nice maps and illustrations. The dramatizations are lazily made, and they get reused a lot. From episode to another, even while talking about different things. Same goes for the interviews. They use soundbites intended to be used in reference to a specific event in one episode, as a descriptor of "the frontier" as a whole in another. Just feels cheap.

I agree with the review about the weird white guilt tripping. I'm not denying any of the atrocities committed, but the show has this weird double standard that ends up feeling pretty racist in itself. Almost like white people are the "adults" of the world that more should be expected of, where as the native americans are these naive savages lower standards should be applied to.

The show correctly points out that "native american" is this anachronistic term invented by the Europeans to group all the native americans into one group. The native americans did not see themselves as part of this a large collective, but rather as members of their tribes. Tribes that were often at war with each other, fighting over land and resources. But when they do it, that's just "the way things were". When whites introduced themselves into this battle for land and resources, it's "theft" and an "invasion" for taking land that "rightfully" belongs to the native population. Rightfully, because they won it in a war some years earlier.

Some of the historians they interview seem to be fully aware of this, and paint the Westward expansion of the US as an extension of larger world history where conquest through might was the norm regardless of nation or race. Others seem to be totally oblivious. This results in a weird tonal mess.