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La stratégie de l'araignée

Titre original : Strategia del ragno
  • 1970
  • 1h 40m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
6,9/10
3,3 k
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La stratégie de l'araignée (1970)
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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueA man returns to the place where his father was murdered and tries to find closure. But he finds himself in a similar predicament as his late father instead.A man returns to the place where his father was murdered and tries to find closure. But he finds himself in a similar predicament as his late father instead.A man returns to the place where his father was murdered and tries to find closure. But he finds himself in a similar predicament as his late father instead.

  • Director
    • Bernardo Bertolucci
  • Writers
    • Jorge Luis Borges
    • Marilù Parolini
    • Eduardo de Gregorio
  • Stars
    • Giulio Brogi
    • Alida Valli
    • Pippo Campanini
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    6,9/10
    3,3 k
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    • Director
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
    • Writers
      • Jorge Luis Borges
      • Marilù Parolini
      • Eduardo de Gregorio
    • Stars
      • Giulio Brogi
      • Alida Valli
      • Pippo Campanini
    • 21Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 17Commentaires de critiques
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    Rôles principaux7

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    Giulio Brogi
    Giulio Brogi
    • Athos Magnani, father and son
    Alida Valli
    Alida Valli
    • Draifa
    Pippo Campanini
    • Gaibazzi
    Franco Giovanelli
    • Rasori
    Tino Scotti
    • Costa (e con la partecipazione di)
    Allen Midgette
    Allen Midgette
    • Sailor
    • (uncredited)
    Attilio Viti
    • Tamer
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Bernardo Bertolucci
    • Writers
      • Jorge Luis Borges
      • Marilù Parolini
      • Eduardo de Gregorio
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs21

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    8Boba_Fett1138

    A really good watch, if you're in the right mood for it!

    It's definitely true this movie is not just for everyone and you also really need to be in the mood for it to watch it. It's the more slower type of movie, that besides doesn't lay out everything for you. Sometimes you have to fill in the blanks and interpret certain sequences for yourself in order to keep following it and understand things.

    However when you really take the time to sit down for this movie, it's definitely more than worth it. It's a pretty fascinating watch, with a good concept and story in it.

    It's great to watch how the movie its 'mystery' slowly gets unraveled and the puzzle gets put together by the main character Athos Magnani, who returns to the town where his father got killed. Not only does he try to find out who killed his father but perhaps more importantly, also the reason why.

    It's great to watch the dynamics between him and the townsfolk. Some are helpful, others reluctant. It gives the movie a great atmosphere of tension and mystery as well. You never know who is telling the truth and what the motivations and reasons behind it all are.

    There are also some good twists in the movie, especially toward the end. The movie its ending does not disappoint!

    Deinetely worth checking out if this looks and sounds like your kind of thing!

    8/10

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    8runamokprods

    Complex and thought provoking

    Made the same year as Bertolucci's better known 'The Conformist', this look at the legacy of fascism in a small Italian town certainly has many strong points. Beautifully shot, with some interesting plot twists, and subtly surreal touches it's always interesting.

    A son returns to a town where his father – an anti-fascist fighter in the years of Mussolini – was murdered by person(s) unknown, and has been made into a martyr and a hero by the locals. The son meets those who knew his father, and as he tries to discover the truth about what happened in the past, the reality gets more and more complex.

    A touch of the conventional thriller runs through this in a good way, keeping the story focused, even when the film-making techniques are a little more obscure or baroque.

    Only the slightly flat acting, which feels a bit phony and distancing, keep this from seeming more like a full-on masterpiece. It's as if Bertolucci wanted to engage only our heads, when nothing would have been lost by pulling in our hearts as well - something I think he succeeded with in "The Conformist"

    That said, given that many see this as Bertolucci's best film, I'll watch it again.
    7RResende

    Guessing the future Bertolucci

    I found interesting to watch this movie since I noticed in it some characteristics that were to be strongly noticed in later films, such as the pleasure for the beauty of the composition (every image caught by the camera is very carefully thought before, considering all the elements in it, from a mirror to a chair, to a flower pot; and also studying its position, wheter the person speaking should be in the center or not, distances, etc.). Bertolucci has also put, I think so at least, a lot of time in this details (which marks a difference from other filming methodes such as those of, let's say, Godard, even though both are worth watching), which grant the film a great artistic quality, since it is very beautiful. I also see in this film the tendency for mixing stories in different times (remember the last emperor?).

    A part from this observations, this film has a story to be followed, not as intriguing or as fascinating as others... but still worthy to reflect on. Even though this is a political film, that's not even subtle or hidden, the main theme of this one is, in my point of view, the creation of myths, the creation of heros, idols... Fernando Pessoa, a portuguese poet, said that a myth is "a nothing which is everything". This film confirms it. Athos Magnani, the father, is an absolute nothing, despite his pseudo idealism, he made nothing in concrete except... becoming the hero of those people, except becoming one more reason for the fight. Even though he was admired for that, he wasn't particularly smart... just a bit more educated, and he just saw the chance of immortality... in his death. This is a myth, and myths, at least like this, only exist if people believe them.

    Beautiful landscapes, not spectacular acting (the actor who plays both athos Magnani is not exceptionaly convincing as the son but gives an interesting performance as the father). Also a good use of the non original music especially the excerpts from Il Rigolletto. I too enjoyed that the director resisted to the temptation of showing exactly the murdering; he did it in a better way. All this and a Bernardo Bertolucci starting to reveal all he would become.
    6Lechuguilla

    Thematically Deep But Lacking Entertainment Value

    A young man named Athos Magnani (Giulio Brogi) arrives at the small Italian town of Tara. Magnani's aim is to discover who killed his father, a local hero and anti-fascist, decades earlier. The script makes many references to Mussolini, the Italian fascist leader of the 1930s.

    An essentially political film, "The Spider's Stratagem" contains deep themes related to personal identity, the definition of heroes, as well as perceptions of, and the truth about, others. Events and people are not always what they seem to be. The thematic depth is enhanced by competent cinematography, with some clever compositional camera shots.

    And yet, I found this film hard to like. There is an overall sense of gloom, with a drab landscape and bleak characters that seem more symbolic of ideas vis-à-vis real people with personal lives. Direction trends theatrical and stagy. And some plot elements seem either unnecessary or deliberately opaque.

    Acting also seems stagy and contrived, which may have been the director's intent. Alida Valli's performance is terrible. I dislike the way she smiles at the most inappropriate times. Further, the viewer must endure periodic outbursts of grand opera.

    I am thus ambivalent toward "The Spider's Stratagem". It has adequate thematic depth, for viewers wanting a thought-provoking film. But the slow-moving plot is something of a trial to sit through, with irksome characters and gloomy visuals. I found it not entertaining.

    Maybe a second viewing, when I have more time to digest the film's political themes, will render an impression that is not so alien and forbidding.
    8ajji-2

    Fascinating, lyrical, memorable.

    After having searched high & low for this ridiculously hard to find film by Bernardo Bertolucci, I finally got a watchable VHS print recently (thanx, Scott). It has been praised by many a critic & film scholar, and deservedly so. Leonard Maltin may not know much, but he was right on the money when he said that this film contains some of the most staggeringly beautiful cinematography ever put on screen. If only somebody would get this on a proper DVD (Criterion, if you're not too busy considering another re-release of The Rock...). The story is, on the surface, a sort of 'search for the truth' mystery/quest that quickly turns into a complex examination of 'the nature of truth'. The pace is slow, and there isn't much in the way of action, mostly just dialog scenes and gorgeous location shots. But I for one was totally engrossed (my wife seemed to dig it as well). Speaking of pace, this struck me as being quite Tarkovsky-esquire a film (barring a few odd cutaway shots), especially with that last scene that puts the whole film into a different spin. Fascinating, heady stuff, but not for all tastes and will be rewarding more to those who are patient and attentive.

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      The movie makes extensive reference to two famous Italian artists: several shots of Tara are based on Giorgio De Chirico's paintings, while the opening credits show some paintings of Antonio Ligabue's.
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      Athos Magnani, father and son: You will not kill me. Even a dead traitor is damaging. A hero is more useful. A hero, whom people can love. I shall be basely murdered by a Fascist. We'll offer the spectacle of a dramatic death to seize people's imagination so they will continue to hate more and more Fascism.

    • Connexions
      Edited into Gli ultimi giorni dell'umanità (2022)
    • Bandes originales
      Rigoletto
      di Giuseppe Verdi (as G. Verdi)

      per gentile concessione E. M. I. Italiana S. p. A.

      da disco STASERA ALL'OPERA QSOX 11/12

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    • Date de sortie
      • 27 mars 1973 (Italy)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Italy
    • Langue
      • Italian
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Spider's Stratagem
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Sabbioneta, Mantua, Lombardia, Italie
    • sociétés de production
      • RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana
      • Red Film
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    • Durée
      • 1h 40m(100 min)
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.37 : 1

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