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Des gens comme les autres

Titre original : Ordinary People
  • 1980
  • 14
  • 2h 4m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
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Timothy Hutton, Donald Sutherland, and Mary Tyler Moore in Des gens comme les autres (1980)
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La mort accidentelle du fils aîné d'une famille aisée pèse lourdement sur les relations entre la mère aigrie, le père au bon caractère et le fils cadet rongé par la culpabilité.La mort accidentelle du fils aîné d'une famille aisée pèse lourdement sur les relations entre la mère aigrie, le père au bon caractère et le fils cadet rongé par la culpabilité.La mort accidentelle du fils aîné d'une famille aisée pèse lourdement sur les relations entre la mère aigrie, le père au bon caractère et le fils cadet rongé par la culpabilité.

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    • Robert Redford
  • Scénaristes
    • Judith Guest
    • Alvin Sargent
    • Nancy Dowd
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    • Donald Sutherland
    • Mary Tyler Moore
    • Judd Hirsch
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
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      • Robert Redford
    • Scénaristes
      • Judith Guest
      • Alvin Sargent
      • Nancy Dowd
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      • Donald Sutherland
      • Mary Tyler Moore
      • Judd Hirsch
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    • A remporté 4 oscars
      • 21 victoires et 14 nominations au total

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    Donald Sutherland
    Donald Sutherland
    • Calvin Jarrett
    Mary Tyler Moore
    Mary Tyler Moore
    • Beth Jarrett
    Judd Hirsch
    Judd Hirsch
    • Dr. Tyrone Berger
    Timothy Hutton
    Timothy Hutton
    • Conrad Jarrett
    M. Emmet Walsh
    M. Emmet Walsh
    • Salan - The Swim Coach
    Elizabeth McGovern
    Elizabeth McGovern
    • Jeannine Pratt
    Dinah Manoff
    Dinah Manoff
    • Karen
    Fredric Lehne
    Fredric Lehne
    • Joe Lazenby
    James Sikking
    James Sikking
    • Ray
    • (as James B. Sikking)
    Basil Hoffman
    Basil Hoffman
    • Sloan
    Quinn K. Redeker
    Quinn K. Redeker
    • Ward - Beth's Brother
    • (as Quinn Redeker)
    Mariclare Costello
    Mariclare Costello
    • Audrey - Ward's Wife
    Meg Mundy
    Meg Mundy
    • Grandmother
    Elizabeth Hubbard
    Elizabeth Hubbard
    • Ruth
    Adam Baldwin
    Adam Baldwin
    • Stillman
    Richard Whiting
    • Grandfather
    Scott Doebler
    • Buck Jarrett
    Carl DiTomasso
    • Van Buren
    • Réalisation
      • Robert Redford
    • Scénaristes
      • Judith Guest
      • Alvin Sargent
      • Nancy Dowd
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    9evanston_dad

    A Powerful and Dead-On Portrayal of Intense Family Dysfunction

    A searing dysfunctional family drama that holds up very well today.

    Living on Chicago's north shore as I do, I can say with authority that this movie completely nails a certain kind of affluent north shore community that exists in Chicago suburbs like Lake Forest, Winnetka, Highland Park, etc., places where people erect hedges and fences not so much to keep people out as to keep family problems and secrets in. Director Robert Redford and writer Alvin Sargent clearly understand their subject matter. And in fact, this film so closely mirrors many of the personal circumstances of my wife and her family (my wife even established a productive relationship with a Jewish therapist who works out of Skokie, no less), that we joke that the film is really about her. Maybe it's my closeness to the subject matter that gives me my appreciation of the movie, but even without that I still think that I'd consider this film to be a superb drama, flawlessly acted.

    Speaking of the acting, Mary Tyler Moore, Judd Hirsch and Timothy Hutton were all recognized with Academy Award nominations (Hutton won) for their work in this film, all deservedly. Moore especially is memorable in her portrayal of a brittle power mom who must constantly hide behind a veneer of icy aloofness for fear that one tiny crack in her facade will send her crumbling to pieces. But two other actors deserve praise as well: Donald Sutherland, as a suffering father who's ill-equipped to deal with his family's problems yet whose heart is in the right place; and Elizabeth McGovern, who brings a sense of normalcy and healthiness into the film like a fresh breeze off Lake Michigan.

    There's a lot of talk about whether this film is better than "Raging Bull," which came out the same year and lost the Best Picture Oscar to "Ordinary People," which only goes to show how lame award competitions are when it comes to movies -- how can you possibly compare the two? See them both.

    Grade: A
    10qdude440

    Great Family Drama

    This is a powerful directing debut from Robert Redford, a great family drama that goes every which way but down. By the end, our thoughts have been altered a bit and its a film that leaves you thinking.

    Conrad, played brilliantly by Timothy Hutton in an Oscar winning role, is the depressed suicidal son of a couple struggling to cope with their son's drowning death. Conrad of course feels responsible, and has already tried to take his own life once before.

    Reluctantly, he begins to see a shrink at the advice of his father. Dr. Berger, also played brilliantly by Judd Hirsch {though there are no slouches in the cast}, helps Conrad through thick and thin. By the end of the movie, the audience truly feels for all characters to some degree.

    As has been stated, the acting is magnificent. The story may seem simple but this type of film really doesn't need a heavy plot. Its an excellent look at the problems we all face. When I first saw this at a young age I related completely to Conrad's character. When I saw this tonight, I related more to the adults and could really feel for them a lot more than I remembered. Each character has a unique sense of reality to them. The actors really carry the film, making the characters seem like real people we've known for years.

    Unfortunately this movie has received somewhat of a bad reputation over the years as the film that beat Raging Bull in 1980 for the Best Picture and Director Oscars. While both movies are excellent, its sad that one has to be better than the other and people just don't enjoy both movies for what they are. Many people have preconceived opinions about this 'small' film they have not heard of. After all, Raging Bull is an all time classic. Just watch this movie with an open mind, because it really works on every level as a powerful family drama detailing the persona of many different types of people.
    10planktonrules

    One of the finest and most true to life movies ever

    I might consider putting this movie in my top 10 list of best movies. It's absolutely amazing that for his directorial debut, Robert Redford created such a masterpiece. Now it was not all due to him, as the story was so well-written and the acting is dead on for all the characters. Part of the reason I love it so much might be because I was a psychotherapist before becoming a school teacher (mid-life crisis, you know). And, having worked with dysfunctional families, this movie gets it right time and time again. Therapy is not a miracle cure that takes effect almost immediately (like in GOOD WILL HUNTING) and the parents BOTH have a strong role in keeping the family sickness alive. Donald Sutherland is the enabler who denies there is a problem--even after one son dies by accident and the other attempts suicide. He also cannot face that the family's dysfunction is mostly controlled and maintained by his very disturbed wife, played wonderfully by Mary Tyler Moore. She is not mentally ill but has a very sick personality, as she is cold as ice emotionally and deals with problems through massive amounts of denial as well as stuffing her anger WAY down deep. Timothy Hutton is, despite his being the patient, the healthiest one in the family, as his suicide attempt is a strong cry for help. Finally, Judd Hirsch plays the therapist--and one of the most realistically portrayed therapists on film. He has no miracle cure but tries his best to get Hutton, and later Sutherland, to work hard at uncovering their dysfunction. Again and again and again, the viewer is rewarded by a brutally honest script that is about people who would be real--not Hollywood's idea of "people". The film is neither manipulative nor condescending--this is the way more films SHOULD be.

    In addition, as I have watched the film several times, I keep noticing just how perfect the direction was. How wonderfully framed the shots were, how wonderfully the music fit in and how unflinching the movie dealt with pain. In particular, I love the scene with Sutherland at the psychiatrist's office as he talks about his marriage....and his eyes keep looking away and avoiding the doctor as he says how much he loves her. And the great Christmas photo scene--it just screams out "this is real!!". For this to be Robert Redford's directorial debut is absolutely amazing and he surely earned that Best Director Oscar.

    FYI--although this movie is rated R, it is only for language. There are a few REALLY CHOICE WORDS used here and there, but otherwise this is a great movie for teens. If filmed today, this would no doubt be a PG-13 film. I am a very conservative parent, and yet I found this to be totally acceptable for my 15 year-old. It's a great film to watch WITH your kids and discuss what you see.

    I cannot recommend a film more highly.
    10Movie-12

    Beautiful script, characters, and flawless filmmaking. A movie not to forget. **** (out of four)

    As an aspiring screenwriter myself, I envy Alvin Sargent, the mastermind behind the script of the Academy Award winning 1980 drama "Ordinary People." Based on the equally as heartbreaking novel by Judith Guest, "Ordinary People" flawlessly captures all aspects of great cinema. The scenes have the perfect timing; the performances are vividly descriptive and entirely convincing; the direction is efficacious and focused. The filmmaker's never pretend that this movie is easy to watch, but they sure do produce an emotional and mental response from the viewer.

    "Ordinary People" launched Timothy Hutton's career, rewarding him with an Oscar. It's too bad his career as an actor seems to be traveling downhill. Although his award was for best actor in a supporting role, he is truly the center of the movie. Hutton plays Conrad Jarrett, the son of Calvin (Donald Sutherland) and Beth (Mary Tyler Moore). The Jarretts are recovering over various recent disasters. They lost their first born son to an accident, for which Conrad blames himself. His grief eventually provokes a failed suicide attempt.

    As the movie opens, we meet the family. We never witness Conrad's suicide attempt, the preceding family death, nor do we see anything than happens during his hospital stay. "Ordinary People" knows exactly where to start and what to show. It leaves a great deal to our imagination. It gives us freedom to put ourselves in the character's shoes. This is a realistic portrayal of a crippled family trying to mend with problems.

    Several key characters also contribute to the rehabilitation of Conrad. Dr. Berger (Judd Hirsch), provides Conrad with psychological guidance; the high school swimming coach (E. Emmet Walsh) understands Conrad's condition, but still doesn't want the swim team to lose his talent; Jeannine (Elizabeth McGovern) befriends the struggling Conrad; Karen (Dinah Manoff) another similarly hospitalized with Conrad, gives him some added confidence.

    "Ordinary People" took home Academy Awards for best picture, director, supporting actor, adapted screenplay, Mary Tyler Moore's deserving performance, and earned various other nominations, including the supporting performance by Judd Hirsch. It is clear why the film won so much praise by critics and audiences alike: we can clearly identify with the characters and their situation.

    The characters are beautifully written. I cannot remember the last movie I saw that so vividly captures individual lifestyles and personal tragedies. Every character plays an important role in Conrad's life. His father feels his son's suicide attempt is due to his poor parenting. The materialistic mom finds it difficult to contend with difficulties and to forgive her son for what he did to her public image. Conrad's problems evolve into larger, more complex issues of love, compassion, forgiveness, and our personal differences.

    The actors really deserve the crown here. If there was even one who did not live up to the great expectations, they would appear obvious and subtract from the film's emotional grasp. Timothy Hutton really portrays his character well. Every emotional aspect feels real, justified, and understood. Mary Tyler Moore portrays the film's potential villain believably as well. She makes is obvious that Beth would rather run from problems instead of dealing with them. After seeing Donald Sutherland in many recent film's that seem rather terse, I formed opinions about his credibility and ability that his performance here proves wrong. He is definitely a gifted actor when dealt good material. In this performance, easily the best of his career, he captures every minuet detail of a father struggling with his past, present, and future.

    "Ordinary People" shares much in common with 1999's best picture winner, "American Beauty." That was another great film, but "Ordinary People" contains debatably better material. "American Beauty" looked tragedy in the eye and found respect, mockery, and grace. "Ordinary People" never bestows comic material, however, but it does trace suffering to its root, and finds disorientation, embarrassment, and sorrow. This is not an easy movie to watch, but a challenging, perceptive, tragic story that you are not likely to forget.
    10triple8

    Unforgettable

    I saw Ordinary People when I was very young and had a very difficult time with the storyline.However, even then I think I knew I was watching something simply remarkable. Even after all these years, it's impact has not lessened, which I guess is a mark of an incredible movie. The movie is among the most disturbing I've ever viewed and the performances, at least to me, are among the best. I can't imagine viewing this movie without feeling absolutely drained afterwards and I think I may have been a bit to young to fully appreciate it, but I can't imagine giving this anything but a 10, it was absolutely flawless in it's storytelling.

    I do think though, that a certain element of maturity is needed to view this, there are few I know who have not been touched or upset by the story and if one is to young or just not in the right mood to handle the heaviness(as I wasn't at the time),they may not be able to fully appreciate it. I still know people who cannot sit through this and I understand why but I hope this movie will be viewed by many who can handle it, it's impact is fierce, all the performances are incredible and Mary Tyler Moore's performance is among the best of any female lead ever.

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    • Anecdotes
      According to the Entertainment Weekly article on the making of this movie, Mary Tyler Moore was cold, snobbish and uncommunicative with Timothy Hutton on the set, to assist her in mastering the aloofness so essential to her character.
    • Gaffes
      The golf scene is set on the 18th hole of the golf course but they are seen leaving the practice green (multiple holes in the putting surface are visible).
    • Citations

      Beth Jarrett: Calvin? Why are you crying? Can I, uh... can I get you something?

      Calvin "Cal" Jarrett: I don't...

      Beth Jarrett: What did you say? Calvin, what did you say?

      [Calvin sighs heavily]

      Beth Jarrett: Tell me.

      Calvin "Cal" Jarrett: You are beautiful. And you are unpredictable. But you're so cautious. You're determined, Beth, but you know something? You're not strong. And I don't know if you're really giving. Tell me something. Do you love me? Do you really love me?

      Beth Jarrett: I feel the way I've always felt about you.

      [pause]

      Calvin "Cal" Jarrett: We would have been all right if there hadn't been any... mess. But you can't handle mess. You need everything neat and easy. I don't know. Maybe you can't love anybody. It was so much Buck. When Buck died, it was as if you buried all your love with him, and I don't understand that. I just don't know, I don't... maybe it wasn't even Buck. Maybe it was just you. Maybe, finally, it was the best of you that you buried. But whatever it was... I don't know who you are. And I don't know what we've been playing at. So I was crying. Because I don't know if I love you anymore. And I don't know what I'm going to do without that.

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      Edited into Give Me Your Answer True (1987)
    • Bandes originales
      Canon in D major
      Composed by Johann Pachelbel

      Arranged for mixed voices by Noel Goemanne

      Additional arrangement by Jean-François Paillard (as Jean-Francois Paillard)

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    • Date de sortie
      • 20 septembre 1980 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
    • Langue
      • English
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Ordinary People
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Lake Forest High School - 1285 N. McKinley Road, Lake Forest, Illinois, États-Unis
    • sociétés de production
      • Paramount Pictures
      • Wildwood Enterprises
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      • 6 000 000 $ US (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 54 766 923 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 170 335 $ US
      • 21 sept. 1980
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 54 768 282 $ US
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      • 2h 4m(124 min)
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