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Nous étions soldats

Titre original : We Were Soldiers
  • 2002
  • 18
  • 2h 18m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,2/10
158 k
MA NOTE
POPULARITÉ
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486
Mel Gibson in Nous étions soldats (2002)
Home Video Trailer from Paramount Home Entertainment
Liretrailer2:52
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L'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur reto... Tout lireL'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur retour.L'histoire de la première grande bataille des forces armées américaines lors de la guerre du Vietnam, et des soldats des deux côtés, alors que leurs femmes attendaient anxieusement leur retour.

  • Réalisation
    • Randall Wallace
  • Scénaristes
    • Harold G. Moore
    • Joseph Lee Galloway
    • Randall Wallace
  • Vedettes
    • Mel Gibson
    • Madeleine Stowe
    • Greg Kinnear
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,2/10
    158 k
    MA NOTE
    POPULARITÉ
    2 587
    486
    • Réalisation
      • Randall Wallace
    • Scénaristes
      • Harold G. Moore
      • Joseph Lee Galloway
      • Randall Wallace
    • Vedettes
      • Mel Gibson
      • Madeleine Stowe
      • Greg Kinnear
    • 845Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 86Commentaires de critiques
    • 65Métascore
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Prix
      • 3 victoires et 5 nominations au total

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    Mel Gibson
    Mel Gibson
    • Lt. Col. Hal Moore
    Madeleine Stowe
    Madeleine Stowe
    • Julie Moore
    Greg Kinnear
    Greg Kinnear
    • Maj. Bruce Crandall
    Sam Elliott
    Sam Elliott
    • Sgt. Maj. Basil Plumley
    Chris Klein
    Chris Klein
    • 2nd Lt. Jack Geoghegan
    Keri Russell
    Keri Russell
    • Barbara Geoghegan
    Barry Pepper
    Barry Pepper
    • Joe Galloway
    Duong Don
    Duong Don
    • Lt. Col. Nguyen Huu An
    Ryan Hurst
    Ryan Hurst
    • Sgt. Ernie Savage
    Robert Bagnell
    Robert Bagnell
    • 1st Lt. Charlie Hastings
    Marc Blucas
    Marc Blucas
    • 2nd Lt. Henry Herrick
    Josh Daugherty
    Josh Daugherty
    • Sp4 Robert Ouellette
    Jsu Garcia
    Jsu Garcia
    • Capt. Tony Nadal
    Jon Hamm
    Jon Hamm
    • Capt. Matt Dillon
    Clark Gregg
    Clark Gregg
    • Capt. Tom Metsker
    Desmond Harrington
    Desmond Harrington
    • Sp4 Bill Beck
    Blake Heron
    Blake Heron
    • Sp4 Galen Bungum
    Erik MacArthur
    Erik MacArthur
    • Sp4 Russell Adams
    • Réalisation
      • Randall Wallace
    • Scénaristes
      • Harold G. Moore
      • Joseph Lee Galloway
      • Randall Wallace
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs845

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    7gavin6942

    A New Perspective on Vietnam

    Short review: I typically do not care for Vietnam War movies. Some, like Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket" are good. "Platoon" is alright, "Casualties of War" is okay... "Hamburger Hill" is blah, "Good morning Vietnam" too happy. The running theme is either firefights (which is good eye candy but poor storytelling) or the futility of war.

    "We Were Soldiers" has a different take. First, Mel Gibson plays a colonel with a degree, allowing him to not only think like a soldier but an academic. He understands military history and why strategies have or have not worked, and why Vietnam is as pointless as Korea was.

    But what really stood out was the focus on the wives. The story is almost always about the boys becoming men in the battlefield. We rarely, if ever, see their parents or spouses. Here is an exception... the wives are their own squadron, bonding together and keeping strong. And that's the reality of war: people don't just die -- someone else has to feel that loss.
    RebBacchus

    Factual to the point of pain

    I should never be surprised that people, who wouldn't recognize Principle, much less Honor, Duty, or Country if it introduced itself, see virtue as vice. As one who served in that war, I found the movie to be factual to the point of pain. Those who call this movie racist, lack vocabulary. or an understanding of racism. I don't know which is sadder. This movie tells a part of a soldier's story very well. Soldiers march to a different drummer, how tragic that so many, today, still refuse to honor those who protected them.

    The millions in Indo-China murdered at the hands of the Communist cry that our "racism" was so poorly lead at the highest civilian levels that we abandon them. Their blood is not on my hands or on the hands of my fellow soldiers. It is on the hands of those who are so blind they refuse to see. A valid case could be made that that there are errors in the story, certainly it doesn't tell the rest of the story, or of the next part of this battle where US casualties were 40%. What it does tell it tells very well. Those men were volunteers, and their nobility shows in this movie. I recommend it, especially for any who would want to understand those who served at that time.
    TheRam

    Hits close to home....

    "We Were Soldiers" hit close to home because my dad and his friend Donald were in this very same battle. In 1965, my dad had just graduated from high school in Wichita, Kansas. He volunteered to enlist in the Army because there was practically nothing waiting for him there...

    My dad was stationed with the 1st Cavalry. The "Valley of Death" was where he fought his first major battle and lived. I'll never forget the scenes in this movie because my dad didn't have to be alive and well today. After seeing this movie, there has not been one day where I wondered what would have happened to me if he didn't live to see it.

    I am eighteen now, and my dad suggested that I see this and gain an idea on how gruesome the battle was and how he managed to live through it. I cried at the end, the same thing I did when I cried at the end of "Platoon", because I think of so many of those who may have been friends with my dad...who never lived to see the next day after that battle ended. I think of those who came back scarred deeply, not only physically, but emotionally and spiritually.

    And I will continue to cry for them....cry as deeply as I can...
    mikefigat

    A Movie that Depicts Real Events

    I for one am someone who was inspired to read the book "We were Soldiers Once and Young" after seeing this movie. WWS is about a distinct event that actually happened. SGM Plumley was a soldier's soldier, with five combat jumps in three wars and an astounding three combat infantry badges. LTC Moore was the sort of leader who could keep his head and lead his troops through the worst of battle. People who complain of clichés in this movie might as well complain that people in 18th century movies wear three-cornered hats.

    To those looking for an anti-war message, it is there. When Moore goes to Division headquarters and gets his mission, he asks about projected enemy in his area of operations. The staff officer standing next to the general says "a manageable number." To this Moore responds with words to the effect of "which means you have no idea." It turns out that Moore's battalion gets dropped on top of a vastly larger enemy force (if I remember correctly, they get dropped right next to an NVA brigade). Ordinarily, it order to assure success in attack, you want to have three times the numbers of your enemy. In this case, the ratio was 4:1 going the other way. Then the battle is about how artillery and air support makes up the difference in numbers.

    The obvious criticism here is that the command was fumbling around in the dark. At the end of the movie, the names of the 70+ men who died are prominently displayed on the screen. A military mind is not treasonous and will not disrespect its superiors, but it will let facts speak for themselves.

    The next comment is only tangentially related to this movie. However, many voices here have taken the opportunity to vent their views on Vietnam, so I feel compelled to put things in a broader historical context.

    There was a war that did not take place between 1945 and the fall of the Berlin wall. It would have been called WWIII. The Soviet Union and the US stood eye-to-eye for 40+ years, but did not blink. It was an ideological conflict with an evil that meant death to 50+ million people in communist countries in this century. It was conflict with a system that vastly constrained freedom. Fortunately for the world, the US finally prevailed. The struggle fought between communism and the west was fought in a variety of ways: in public relations, in sports, in propaganda, and in a series of proxy wars. In Korea, Greece, Vietnam, Afghanistan and a variety of smaller stages, East contested with West. To the people caught up in these local conflicts, these wars were absolute tragedies. However, in the grand scheme of things, these conflicts pale to insignificance when compared to the 500,000,000 who would have died in WWIII.
    KristinMarie419

    Seeing the enemy and home in a different light

    This film is so different from the traditionally cynical (and rightly so) Vietnam War movies. While it goes without question that this film depicts the bloody and gruesome horrors of the tragedy of the first major conflict of the war, it does so while juxtaposing the story with that of stories of the home front and the enemy. The enemy in this film is not the animalistic, silent enemy we are used to. We hear this enemy speak, we see his love for his family and his devotion to his cause. While being bombarded with images of death and destruction on the battlefield, we are brought back home to see the wives as they face the death themselves.

    While of course not a flawless movie, it was without a doubt moving, and I highly recommend it.

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    • Anecdotes
      Sam Elliott became so close to the real Basil L. Plumley and his family that during Plumley's funeral with military honors Elliott sat in the front row beside Plumley's daughter as she received the folded flag.
    • Gaffes
      Contrary to what's shown in the movie, Lieutenant Henry Herrick and 2nd Platoon did not recklessly charge after a lone NVA soldier, but were in fact ordered to advance out to the flank by Captain John Herren and did so in a disciplined manner. However, he encountered a group of retreating PAVN soldiers and followed them, losing contact with the rest of the company and leaving the flank exposed. At one point, when coming to the clearing shown in the film, Herrick stopped and radioed back on whether or not he should continue through it or go around it, which was when he and his men were attacked by the NVA.

      It was also Herrick's platoon that inflicted the first casualties on the NVA in said attack, not the other way around as shown in the movie.
    • Citations

      Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: [Hal Moore speaks to his men before going into battle] Look around you. In the 7th cavalry, we've got a captain from the Ukraine; another from Puerto Rico. We've got Japanese, Chinese, Blacks, Hispanics, Cherokee Indians. Jews and Gentiles. All Americans. Now here in the states, some of you in this unit may have experienced discrimination because of race or creed. But for you and me now, all that is gone. We're moving into the valley of the shadow of death, where you will watch the back of the man next to you, as he will watch yours. And you won't care what color he is, or by what name he calls God. They say we're leaving home. We're going to what home was always supposed to be. Now let us understand the situation. We are going into battle against a tough and determined enemy.

      [pauses]

      Lt. Colonel Hal Moore: I can't promise you that I will bring you all home alive. But this I swear, before you and before Almighty God, that when we go into battle, I will be the first to set foot on the field, and I will be the last to step off, and I will leave no one behind. Dead or alive, we will all come home together. So help me, God.

    • Autres versions
      Trailers include a scene where Julie Moore explains that the last thing most dying soldiers say is "Tell my wife I love her". This is not included in the theatrical release.
    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: We Were Soldiers/Mean Machine/Queen of the Damned/40 Days and 40 Nights/Monsoon Wedding (2002)
    • Bandes originales
      Hold On I'm Coming
      Written by Isaac Hayes and David Porter

      Performed by Tommy Blaize

      Produced by Nick Glennie-Smith

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    • Date de sortie
      • 1 mars 2002 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United Kingdom
      • France
      • Germany
      • United States
    • Site officiel
      • Official Facebook
    • Langues
      • English
      • Vietnamese
      • French
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • We Were Soldiers
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Fort Hunter Liggett, Californie, États-Unis(Central Highlands, South Vietnam)
    • sociétés de production
      • Icon Entertainment International
      • Motion Picture Production GmbH & Co. Erste KG
      • StudioCanal
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    • Budget
      • 75 000 000 $ US (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 78 122 718 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 20 212 543 $ US
      • 3 mars 2002
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 115 374 915 $ US
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      • 2h 18m(138 min)
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      • Dolby Digital
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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