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Alexandre

Titre original : Alexander
  • 2004
  • 14A
  • 2h 55m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
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Anthony Hopkins, Val Kilmer, Angelina Jolie, and Colin Farrell in Alexandre (2004)
Home Video Trailer from Warner Home Video
Liretrailer0:31
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Drame d’époqueÉpée et sandaleÉpiqueEpopée de la guerreÉpopée historiqueTragédieBiographieDrameGuerreHistorique

Alexandre, le roi de Macédoine et l'un des plus grands chefs d'armée de l'histoire de la guerre, conquiert une grande partie du monde connu.Alexandre, le roi de Macédoine et l'un des plus grands chefs d'armée de l'histoire de la guerre, conquiert une grande partie du monde connu.Alexandre, le roi de Macédoine et l'un des plus grands chefs d'armée de l'histoire de la guerre, conquiert une grande partie du monde connu.

  • Réalisation
    • Oliver Stone
  • Scénaristes
    • Oliver Stone
    • Christopher Kyle
    • Laeta Kalogridis
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    • Colin Farrell
    • Anthony Hopkins
    • Rosario Dawson
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    5,6/10
    182 k
    MA NOTE
    POPULARITÉ
    3 602
    539
    • Réalisation
      • Oliver Stone
    • Scénaristes
      • Oliver Stone
      • Christopher Kyle
      • Laeta Kalogridis
    • Vedettes
      • Colin Farrell
      • Anthony Hopkins
      • Rosario Dawson
    • 1.5KCommentaires d'utilisateurs
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    • 40Métascore
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    • Prix
      • 6 victoires et 19 nominations au total

    Vidéos17

    Alexander (2004)
    Trailer 0:31
    Alexander (2004)
    What Roles Has Colin Farrell Been Considered For?
    Clip 3:40
    What Roles Has Colin Farrell Been Considered For?
    What Roles Has Colin Farrell Been Considered For?
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    What Roles Has Colin Farrell Been Considered For?
    Alexander Scene: Elephant Army
    Clip 0:55
    Alexander Scene: Elephant Army
    Alexander Scene: This Is Insanity
    Clip 1:07
    Alexander Scene: This Is Insanity
    Alexander Scene: Did You Help Him?
    Clip 0:33
    Alexander Scene: Did You Help Him?
    Alexander Scene: Did You Conquer Asia By Yourself?
    Clip 1:06
    Alexander Scene: Did You Conquer Asia By Yourself?

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    Colin Farrell
    • Alexander
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    Anthony Hopkins
    • Old Ptolemy
    Rosario Dawson
    Rosario Dawson
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    David Bedella
    David Bedella
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    Jessie Kamm
    Jessie Kamm
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    Angelina Jolie
    Angelina Jolie
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    Val Kilmer
    Val Kilmer
    • Philip
    Fiona O'Shaughnessy
    Fiona O'Shaughnessy
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    Connor Paolo
    Connor Paolo
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    Patrick Carroll
    • Young Hephaistion
    Brian Blessed
    Brian Blessed
    • Wrestling Trainer
    Peter Williamson
    Peter Williamson
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    Morgan Christopher Ferris
    Morgan Christopher Ferris
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    Rob Earley
    Rob Earley
    • Young Ptolemy
    • (as Robert Earley)
    Aleczander Gordon
    Aleczander Gordon
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    Christopher Plummer
    Christopher Plummer
    • Aristotle
    Gary Stretch
    Gary Stretch
    • Cleitus
    John Kavanagh
    John Kavanagh
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      • Christopher Kyle
      • Laeta Kalogridis
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    bob the moo

    Director's Cut: Not as bad as everyone says but certainly flawed across too many aspects

    The story of Alexander the great, the King of Macedonia who sweep across much of the world as it was known at the time. With flashbacks to his relationship with his father King Philip and mother Olympias, we follow Alexander as a boy taught by Aristotle and his rise to power and first conquers all of Persia before moving eastward into deeper Asia as he attempts to reach the Ocean to return to Macedonia. However this road is tough and his men struggle with his methods of ruling his conquered territories and with the seemingly never-ending quest.

    Despite the fact that this was slated (maybe because it was slated) I decided to give a try for myself. The only option available to me for rental was the slightly shorter Director's Cut, so I took that one and my comments are based around that – how different it is from the original release into cinemas I'm unsure but it was what I had. Taking the eagle of the early scenes as my guide and looking at film from a great height, it is actually not too bad. Cosmetically it all looks good with lots of money spent on the CGI, the battle scenes, the cast, the costumes and so on. However the reality is that every audience must watch this scene by scene and deal with it line by line and it is at this level where the film doesn't really work.

    To give it its dues though, the overall sweep is good and the battle scenes are impressive even to this post-Lord of the Rings viewer and it is fair to say that the money is right up on there on the screen. Talk about the narrative, the script, the performances, the delivery though and it is a different story. Whether the story is historically accurate or not I cannot say but, like with many of these things, I am happy to take the overall story as reasonably educational while also recognising that much of it will have been either made up for the sake of the telling or simplified for the same reason. The problem for me was not with the accuracy but more with the script. It is written like speeches rather than conversations; nobody seems to talk so much as proclaim. This makes the characters harder to get into and comes over like the writers were forcing themes rather than building them into their characters.

    I actually liked the flashback structure as it gave us both elements of Alexander building towards the conclusion of the film. That said though, it is a bit laboured at times and not every timeshift works as well as it should have done or contributes as much as I suspect it was supposed to. Stone's direction is impressive in regards the battle scenes but it is as writer and deliverer of the story that he falls down; even his "cut" contains structural problems and failings.

    Without a good script the starry cast mostly struggle. It doesn't help that the themes are mostly handed to the cast in clumps rather than being woven into the dialogue and the characters. Unlike many reviewers I didn't really mind the use of Irish accents; it was a bit funny at first but I got used to the device of the accents representing a certain people. Farrell is left exposed by his director. I do not mean the shot of his balls but more the fact that he seems rudderless in his performance, never being consistent and swinging wildly with each scene. It doesn't help that each line he says is delivered like it is "the most important thing ever™" – with this in mind I didn't care what he looked like, it was more fundamental issues I had with him. Leto, Meyers, Beattie and others provide unremarkable support but the bigger worry is in the A-list names that misfire. Contrary to what some have said, I thought Jolie did a pretty good job with her manipulative character; it is not her fault that she is too young for the role and I'm not entirely sure why she was cast as I can think of a handful of older actresses who could have risen to the role. More disappointing was Dawson who offers little apart from a nude scene (which is an absurdly comic sex scene in itself). Contrary to what my girlfriend might say, I do think Dawson is a good actress and although the male part of me appreciated seeing her naked, I cannot help but wonder why her real talents were wasted in a role that gave her nothing to work with and very little to do anyway. Hopkins is a good narrator and as a device he holds the film together well. Blessed provides a slice of his usual ham then disappears, Plummer likewise while Kilmer does an OK job as the father of the piece.

    Overall then this is not as terrible a film as the critics would have led you to believe but this is not to be confused with me saying that it is "good". The overall sweep of the film is OK while technically it is professional and impressive but the script is poor, the characters delivered on a basic "and here's the theme for this scene" level, while the performances are either weak or, at best, well-meaning. Like I say it isn't as totally valueless as some have claimed but what potential there is, is mostly missed.
    siaghnon

    I Loved This Film

    Saw Alexander last night and loved it. Would I recommend it? Yes-BUT-be forewarned, this is not your classic historical epic so leave behind all ideas of what an historic epic film should be and bring along an open the mind for a wonderful ride. After all, one doesn't expect Ben-Hur or The Robe or The Ten Commandments from Oliver Stone. He uses jumpy camera shots and grainy filters as well as wonderful color filters that give the battle scenes a viscerally disturbing edge, taking the viewer out of their complacent acceptance of 21st century, violent battle scenes and making them squirm. I felt the desiccating heat at Gaugamel as well as the cloying humidity of the Indian forests. The grandeur of the CGI presentation of Babylon was awe inspiring as was the set for the Library at Alexandria.

    The subtle presentation of the film in Greek Tragedy format worked well for me, from Pharoah Ptolomy representing the chorus through the Oedipal angst of Alexander's love/hate relationship with his parents. The costuming was perfection, as was the architecture. Not once was I jolted by an incorrect piece of art, jewelry, fabric or weapon. The use of a Gypsy Horse (or Irish Cob) for Bucephalus was a striking choice. They are a majestic breed and, although I am under-educated as to what his actual breed was, he was well cast.

    Before seeing the film I was only aware of Messers Stone and Farrell and Ms. Jolie's involvement so I was pleasantly surprised by the appearance of Brian Blessed as the wrestling master and Jonathan Rhys Meyers as Cassander, and I was thrilled by the Vangelis score! I have not heard a Vangelis score since The Bounty.

    As for the representation of love between Alexander and Hephaestion, my hat is off to Oliver Stone for his presentation of a love that transcended gender and was as true as that Paris held for Helen. Unlike the recent film of Troy, in which the lovers Achilles and Patroclus were made into platonic cousins, Oliver Stone has courageously represented an historic love to a culture wherein the attitude towards male/male pairings have become anethema. That the Great General Alexander had a male life companion is a simple fact of history as we know it. In my years at school it was not presented as either laudable or offensive, it was simply a researched fact. History as we know it tells us that the Greece of Alexander's time looked upon such pairings as Alexander's and Hephaestion's as something acceptable as long as they grew in knowledge and virtue. Christopher Plummer's Aristotle sums this up in one simple speech near the beginning of the film and, by taking Ganymede to his side, the greatest of all Greek Gods, Zeus, sanctioned such pairings. Like it as not, right or wrong, the *gender issue* and *gay issue* are a none other than a matter of popular opinion, and popular opinion at the time of Alexander was that men lay down with men as well as women. It simply was, and that is how Oliver Stone handled it-simply-without defense or apology and that took guts.

    Even without the *controversial* relationship between Alexander and Hephaestion, this would have been a 9.5 out of 10 for me.
    bolender-1

    My take on this

    At first, I didn't feel much of a need to comment on the film, since so many others have written and have said so many things. But I think there are some really important points to made, and I haven't seen anyone make them. So here I am writing.

    In my opinion, almost everyone misunderstood the relationship between Hephaistion and Alexander. In the modern world, especially in the West, two men are either very close to each other, sleep together, and have sex, or they keep a good comfortable distance from each other and, if they're friendly, might punch each other on the arm. In this film, we see a relationship that is hard for most people today to understand, namely a passionate love relationship between two men in which sex is not very important and possibly even absent.

    Aristotle essentially explained the whole film near the beginning when he told the young couple something like the following, as best I can remember it, "When two men lie together in lust, it is over indulgence. But when two men lie together in purity, they can perform wonders." Or something like that. Given what I know of that culture, I am sure that "in purity" means no sex, or at least very little. That's why we never see them kiss. In the film, as in many older films, kissing is a metaphor for sex. Even when Alexander kisses his mother, it refers to the idea of sex. That's why Alexander kisses Bagoas, but not Hephaistion.

    Now I'm not sure if the real historical Aristotle would have made that remark. That's not exactly what he says about homosexuality in the Nicomachean Ethics. But the remark is plausible enough since Alexander could easily have heard such an idea during his youth. Plato (before Aristotle) expressed that idea, and Zeno of Citium (after Aristotle) did too. So even if Aristotle never said this to Alexander, it is plausible enough that the idea was in the air and that Alexander heard it from someone or other.

    Some have complained that the "homosexuality" (assuming that A's relationship with Heph. should even be called that) was thrown in their faces too much. But it's crucial to the plot. Stone is hypothesizing that Hephaistion was essential for what Alexander did. Further, it's a standard Hollywood convention to juxtapose a love story with some great political, military, or otherwise grand event. There are tons of examples. Titanic, Enemy at the Gates, Gone with the Wind, ... the list could go on forever. It really is homophobic to complain about Stone continually going back to this theme, because he has a perfectly good artistic reason to do it.

    A few more details: Alexander's hair. I think that Stone was trying to make Alexander look like Martin Potter in Satyricon -- a nod to Fellini.

    Alexander's accent and soft appearance. Another nod to a great director passed on, this time Stanley Kubrick. Farrel really looks a lot like Ryan O'Neil in Barry Lyndon. In fact, he really looks like a Ryan O'Neill / Martin Potter coalescence. I think it's deliberate.

    The softness of Alexander's personality. In a lot of scenes it made sense. He was gentle enough to know how to approach Bucephalus and tame him without scaring him. He was open minded enough to adopt a lot of Persian culture and encourage intermarriage, while the other more "he-man" folks around him were less comfortable with the idea.

    Yes, if you haven't figured it out by now, I do like the film. People's hatred of the film is hard for me to understand.
    60U

    Alexander

    With such an epic story, you would think someone like Stone would produce an epic film. From the random accents of the characters (specifically, I have no idea what Jolie was trying to do), to some pretty atrocious acting from Farrell-he's capable of much better, but this was at the height of his grandiosity and ego. There are so many moments where it feels like the film is onto something, only to have it stop and spin off into another, pointless direction. Bottom line: a $155 mil film about Alexander the Great should have been iconic, but Alexander falls flat on its face from the weight of the egos involved.
    7topherdrewpg

    Alexander - The Final Cut

    It took Oliver Stone four tries and ten years of edits to get this film right...but he finally does.

    The Final Cut, released in 2014, shuffles the story elements around so the narrative is fast-paced and cohesive. Alexander's bisexuality is explored much more deeply. Those close to Alexander are further explored.

    If you're going to watch Alexander, watch The Final Cut. It's far and away the best version.

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    • Anecdotes
      The biography of Alexander by Oxford University professor Robin Lane Fox was an original inspiration and source of information for writer and director Oliver Stone. As a historical advisor, Professor Fox didn't get on-screen credit. His price for giving his advice was to be allowed to take a place at the head of what is one of the largest cavalry charges ever filmed. Professor Fox was used to riding around the English countryside, but gladly dressed up as a Macedonean cavalry officer to live his dream of charging for Alexander.
    • Gaffes
      Ptolemy I is depicted recounting the story of Alexander in 283 B.C. The Lighthouse at Alexandria, seen in the background, was built during the reign of his son Ptolemy II, around 270 B.C.
    • Citations

      Old Ptolemy: The truth is never simple and yet it is. The truth is we did kill him. By silence we consented... because we couldn't go on. But by Ares, what did we have to look forward to but to be discarded in the end like Cleitus? After all this time, to give away our wealth to Asian sycophants we despised? Mixing the races? Harmony? Oh, he talked of these things. I never believe in his dream. None of us did. That's the truth of his life. The dreamers exhaust us. They must die before they kill us with their blasted dreams.

    • Autres versions
      The Director's Cut is 9 minutes shorter than the 175-minute theatrical version. It is a reworked version although seamless to many. 18 minutes were cut and 9 added. Many of the added or extended sequences involve Val Kilmer and Angelina Jolie's characters. The battle of Gaugamela now starts earlier. Taking a cue from classic movie epics, the opening reel now set up the basic themes with greater economy: Alexander's Oedipal relationship with his parents, Olympias' ambitions for her son, the boy's need to surpass his father, and the entirely natural way in which myth/religion is shown as integral to the ancients' behavior. Oliver Stone reworked the third act, too, juxtaposing events in India and Greece. Jolie's Olympias emerges now more as a genuinely pathetic figure in the whole tragedy. Ptolemy's final scene was edited. Stone also slightly reworked Alexander's death scene because of audience feedback, adding 17 seconds to the scene.
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    • Date de sortie
      • 24 novembre 2004 (Canada)
    • Pays d’origine
      • United States
      • United Kingdom
      • Germany
      • Netherlands
      • France
      • Italy
      • Morocco
      • Thailand
    • Sites officiels
      • MySpace (United States)
      • Official site (Russia)
    • Langue
      • English
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    • Lieux de tournage
      • Essaouira, Morocco
    • sociétés de production
      • Warner Bros.
      • Intermedia Films
      • Pacifica Film
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      • 155 000 000 $ US (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 34 297 191 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 13 687 087 $ US
      • 28 nov. 2004
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 167 298 192 $ US
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      • 2.39 : 1

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