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La bande à Baader

Titre original : Der Baader Meinhof Komplex
  • 2008
  • R
  • 2h 30m
ÉVALUATION IMDb
7,3/10
41 k
MA NOTE
La bande à Baader (2008)
A look at Germany's terrorist group, The Red Army Faction (RAF), which organized bombings, robberies, kidnappings and assassinations in the late 1960s and '70s. Based on Stefan Aust's best-selling nonfiction book.
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Un regard sur la faction Armée rouge, le groupe terroriste allemand qui organisa des attentats, des braquages, des enlèvements et des assassinats à la fin des années 1960 et 1970.Un regard sur la faction Armée rouge, le groupe terroriste allemand qui organisa des attentats, des braquages, des enlèvements et des assassinats à la fin des années 1960 et 1970.Un regard sur la faction Armée rouge, le groupe terroriste allemand qui organisa des attentats, des braquages, des enlèvements et des assassinats à la fin des années 1960 et 1970.

  • Réalisation
    • Uli Edel
  • Scénaristes
    • Bernd Eichinger
    • Uli Edel
    • Stefan Aust
  • Vedettes
    • Martina Gedeck
    • Moritz Bleibtreu
    • Johanna Wokalek
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  • ÉVALUATION IMDb
    7,3/10
    41 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Uli Edel
    • Scénaristes
      • Bernd Eichinger
      • Uli Edel
      • Stefan Aust
    • Vedettes
      • Martina Gedeck
      • Moritz Bleibtreu
      • Johanna Wokalek
    • 133Commentaires d'utilisateurs
    • 168Commentaires de critiques
    • 76Métascore
  • Voir l’information sur la production à IMDbPro
    • Nommé pour 1 oscar
      • 4 victoires et 22 nominations au total

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    Martina Gedeck
    Martina Gedeck
    • Ulrike Meinhof
    Moritz Bleibtreu
    Moritz Bleibtreu
    • Andreas Baader
    Johanna Wokalek
    Johanna Wokalek
    • Gudrun Ensslin
    Jan Josef Liefers
    Jan Josef Liefers
    • Peter Homann
    Nadja Uhl
    Nadja Uhl
    • Brigitte Mohnhaupt
    Alexandra Maria Lara
    Alexandra Maria Lara
    • Petra Schelm
    Heino Ferch
    Heino Ferch
    • Horst Herold Assistant
    Stipe Erceg
    Stipe Erceg
    • Holger Meins
    Niels-Bruno Schmidt
    Niels-Bruno Schmidt
    • Jan Carl Raspe
    • (as Niels Bruno Schmidt)
    Vinzenz Kiefer
    Vinzenz Kiefer
    • Peter-Jürgen Boock
    Tom Schilling
    Tom Schilling
    • Josef Bachmann
    Susanne Bormann
    Susanne Bormann
    • Peggy
    Simon Licht
    • Horst Mahler
    Daniel Lommatzsch
    Daniel Lommatzsch
    • Christian Klar
    Sebastian Blomberg
    Sebastian Blomberg
    • Rudi Dutschke
    Hannah Herzsprung
    Hannah Herzsprung
    • Susanne Albrecht
    Bruno Ganz
    Bruno Ganz
    • Horst Herold
    Hans Werner Meyer
    Hans Werner Meyer
    • Klaus-Rainer Röhl
    • (as Hans-Werner Meyer)
    • Réalisation
      • Uli Edel
    • Scénaristes
      • Bernd Eichinger
      • Uli Edel
      • Stefan Aust
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    Commentaires des utilisateurs133

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    8Liedzeit

    Necessary

    First of all this is a very important film. Just like the other "Big" film by Eichinger "Der Untergang" it confronts the German audience (and the world should it care) with some aspect of German history that people should know about. In this case the "myth" of the RAF. To everyone who lived through the seventies in Germany it is clear that the influence of the RAF on Germany can hardly be exaggerated. I was a kid but my impression at the time was that both sides were wrong. There was a constant fear of terror coming from the terrorists but also from the state. (People did not get jobs if it was suspected they were "left".) So to make a blockbuster film, even if it does not really explain the motives of the main characters involved, at least gives us some facts. Not everyone is prepared to watch documentaries or read the book by Aust, but everyone should have some thoughts or maybe discussions on the subject.

    Okay, but does it succeed as a film? Not entirely. The actors as everyone agrees were excellent, the cinematography as well. You do think you are in the seventies. That in itself is amazing. The action scenes are done splendidly, especially at the beginning the riots during the visit of the Persian Shah which culminated in the shooting of a student which in turn was, at least to some extent, the origin of the rise of terror. Of course the film is episodic and there are too many characters in it, most of them are not introduced in any way and ten years of complex history cannot be told in an altogether satisfying way. But the film succeeds in giving us a sense of what was going on. The producer, Bernd Eichinger has been accused of vanity. Which is a funny thing. Of course, he is vain. He has the duty to be vain as long as he also feels a responsibility to make movies that try to tell something. And the challenge, he feels, is to say it to as many people as possible.
    8giantpanther

    a great film that never could have been made in America

    I liked this film primarily of how much it seemed to buck the formulaic American plot system. Don't get me wrong some American movies are cool, but they mostly all adhere to the same boring standards.

    This film was incredibly bleak and honest, which I respected very much. Also it required that you think for yourself and develop your own opinions.

    The plot revolves around a group of young people who go out to try to make a difference and yet don't really accomplish anything at all. I can't give away too much but I thought this was just beautiful and complex film-making. Very intelligent, it never tried to be cute or force any ideas on you, it simply was.

    I know this is a vague review, but if you feel like seeing an intelligent complex drama then you must see this. Go German cinema!
    9ChrisWasser

    Better than most critics want to admit

    I agree with the other comments on the following points: the film does indeed concentrate on the culprits and their actions in a documentary way (as opposed to an interpretation of the RAF's ideas and motivations from a clear-cut political standpoint). Although the victims DO appear they are not characterized more closely; the only representative of the state is Horst Herold (head of the BKA), politicians do not show up at all, the media appear only in the shape of Springer, konkret and Spiegel and even the lawyers (Haag, Croissant, Schily, Ströbele, etc.) are merged into only one (fictitious?) character. I for one do agree with this approach and if you are prepared for it you probably can live with it too. In any case, despite all the chases, shootouts and explosions it hasn't become a mere action-film.

    What's more problematic is that the film follows the book by Stefan Aust VERY closely. Therefore the dramaturgy is more similar to "real life" than to a classical feature film (e.g. there are many changes in pace, several climaxes are distributed over the course of the film and a proper arc of suspense is somewhat missing). "Fortunately" real life offered a culmination of events with the Schleyer kidnapping in the "German Autumn" 1977, so that the film ends in a reasonably satisfying way. Nevertheless the end credits come a little abruptly.

    The second problem is that the film tries to show virtually ALL events from the book (only some minor incidents like the Mahler detention, Peter Urbach, the burglaries in registration offices in order to steal blank passports or the visit of Jean-Paul Sartre in Stammheim are missing) so that it needs to squeeze 10 years of history into 140 minutes. The result is a film with breakneck speed at some points. The better scenes (e.g. the training camp in Jordan or the lawsuit in Stammheim) are obviously those where the film catches breath, calms down and takes its time for the actors to shine.

    The quality of the acting ranges from good to fantastic (with very few exceptions like Alexandra Maria Lara, who is nothing more than wide-eyed again and who thankfully doesn't even have dialogue). Especially Martina Gedeck and Johanna Wokalek are sensational. It is THEIR film and the conflicts in Stammheim which led to Meinhof's suicide are acted Oscar-worthy. But Michael Gwisdek (Ensslin's father), Jan Josef Liefers (Peter Homann), Sebastian Blomberg (Rudi Dutschke), Nadja Uhl (Brigitte Mohnhaupt) and Hannah Herzsprung (Susanne Albrecht) are also very good.

    The production values are excellent too. A lot of locations, a great deal of main and supporting roles, hundreds of extras, good special effects (mainly explosions) and a set design and costume design which creates a very coherent 70's atmosphere: you can see that the film cost a lot of money. Every cent is on the screen.

    I didn't like the choice of music that much. Deep Purple's "Child in Time" is always great to hear, but the rest (Janis Joplin, The Who, Bob Dylan) is just too mainstreamy and unimaginative for my taste (but probably also very expensive). Why not use MC5, Ton Steine Scherben or Ennio Morricone's "Vamos a matar, companeros"?

    Now I'm looking forward to the reactions and reviews from other countries, who probably don't know this part of German history very well. In the US I expect the criticism that there are too many naked people, too many swear words and even more cigarettes (every one in BMK smokes everywhere and at all times), in order to distract from the politics of the film ;-) "Der Baader Meinhof Komplex" isn't the masterpiece on the history of the first generation of the RAF that I had hoped for in my comments on "Todesspiel", but altogether it is a very suspenseful, fascinating, densely narrated and well acted film. Hopefully it will not be the last word on the subject, but it succeeds in giving the audience the basic RAF knowledge on which future (less neutral, more opinionated) movies can build their stories.
    8geoffgee

    An enlightening, brilliantly acted and thoroughly absorbing film .

    Although being somewhat more than moderately interested in politics, I knew very little about the original activities on which this film is based. Having seen the film, I now feel vastly more knowledgeable on how world events in the late sixties and early seventies led from the emergence to the demise of this particular left wing faction. My attention was fully engaged throughout the film. I thought the screenplay brilliantly portrayed the way the mindset of the RAF developed as they became more and more convinced they were living in a police state. Acting and direction were superb throughout. In spite of the violence and repression being depicted, I was reassured by the fact that such thought provoking films can and are being made for today's cinema audiences. After seeing Die Welle (I think it was three times) earlier this year I am now very enthusiastic about German cinema and shall certainly be hoping to see Der Baader Meinhof Komplex at least once more on the big screen this year. A masterpiece of political film making. Highly recommended.
    8perica-43151

    Another interesting German movie

    Germans have a quality wave of movies that reached wold audience in the early 21st century, after the Run Lola Run hit. This movie is perhaps not the best of the best, but is interesting, original and gives a story of one turbulent era with great detail and precision.

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    • Anecdotes
      As an immediate reaction to the movie, Ignes Ponto, widow of Jürgen Ponto, whose assassination is portrayed in the movie, returned her Federal Cross of Merit. She was angry that the Federal Republic of Germany has never even created a memorial for victims of the RAF, but instead helped to finance films like this one about the members of the RAF. Also, she said, she had not been warned about the graphic portrayal of Ponto's assassination when she was invited to the movie premiere and felt humiliated by the producers for making her sit through this without a warning. About a month later, she filed a lawsuit against the producers, who claimed that every scene is historically accurate, because the assassination of her husband, which she had to witness from the next room, was not portrayed as it happened. She demands the scene of the murder of her husband be cut from the movie. The filmmakers claim that they had tried to contact her during production to get the scene right but she had no desire to cooperate. Before this movie, there had been no portrayal of Ponto's assassination on film and she felt the staging of the movie was lurid and dishonoring to her husband. As of this writing, no decision has been reached about the lawsuit.
    • Gaffes
      Ulrike Meinhof's twin daughters Bettina and Regine first appear in the opening scene in 1967 when they are 9 years old. Yet 3 years later when living in Sicily and rescued by Stefan Aust, they haven't aged at all.
    • Citations

      Ulrike Meinhof: If you throw a stone, it's a crime. If a thousand stones are thrown, that's political. If you set fire to a car it's a crime; if a hundred cars are set on fire that's political.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Guinness World Records - Die größten Weltrekorde: Episode #5.1 (2008)
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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 25 septembre 2008 (Germany)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Germany
      • France
      • Czech Republic
    • Site officiel
      • Constantin Film (Germany)
    • Langues
      • German
      • English
      • French
      • Swedish
      • Arabic
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Baader Meinhof Complex
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Ouarzazate, Morocco
    • sociétés de production
      • Constantin Film
      • Norddeutscher Rundfunk (NDR)
      • Bayerischer Rundfunk (BR)
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    • Budget
      • 20 000 000 € (estimation)
    • Brut – États-Unis et Canada
      • 476 270 $ US
    • Fin de semaine d'ouverture – États-Unis et Canada
      • 17 348 $ US
      • 23 août 2009
    • Brut – à l'échelle mondiale
      • 26 937 355 $ US
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      • 2h 30m(150 min)
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    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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