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Ajouter une intrigue dans votre languePaul Verhoeven's Les Girls de Las Vegas (1995) was met by critics and audiences with near-universal derision. "You Don't Nomi" traces the film's redemptive journey from notorious flop to cul... Tout lirePaul Verhoeven's Les Girls de Las Vegas (1995) was met by critics and audiences with near-universal derision. "You Don't Nomi" traces the film's redemptive journey from notorious flop to cult classic, and maybe even masterpiece.Paul Verhoeven's Les Girls de Las Vegas (1995) was met by critics and audiences with near-universal derision. "You Don't Nomi" traces the film's redemptive journey from notorious flop to cult classic, and maybe even masterpiece.
- Prix
- 1 victoire et 1 nomination au total
Toon Agterberg
- Self
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Nancy Allen
- Self
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Kevin Bacon
- Self
- (archive footage)
Matthew Baume
- Self
- (voice)
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Jennifer Beals
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Elizabeth Berkley
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Ronnie Bierman
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Jake Busey
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Nicolas Cage
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Glenn Close
- Alex Forrest
- (archive footage)
Joan Crawford
- Self
- (archive footage)
Robert Davi
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Sylvia de Leur
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Michael Douglas
- Self
- (archive footage)
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George Dzundza
- Self
- (archive footage)
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Joe Eszterhas
- Self
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Avis en vedette
Or don't I? Actually who knows ... Nomi? And of course there are other interpretations of that word. Maybe one of the most wicked things about the movie - the characters name. Know me - no me - no! Me! - as you can see you make it what you think it should be. And maybe some won't like how certain people view this movie. But then again, why are watching this? I personally thought the audio commentary was enjoyable enough and most topics that are being highlighted there, get repeated here.
But you also get to see how some just cherish the movie, by reanacting it. But also how different some view it! Is it a feminists worst nightmare or does it show and depict how powerful women are? I don't have to tell you how to feel about the movie, you are the one deciding. And no one can make you have fun watching the movie Showgirls, but maybe the documentary brings you closer to that point. Especially considering where Berkley came from and where she went after that movie ... all depicted here. I almost feel sorry for her. But she accepted that the movie will always be a part of her and she relishes in it. One of the things you will learn here ... for fans of Showgirls mostly, but can work for others too. Still it makes sense to have seen the movie to fully understand or have the complete context
But you also get to see how some just cherish the movie, by reanacting it. But also how different some view it! Is it a feminists worst nightmare or does it show and depict how powerful women are? I don't have to tell you how to feel about the movie, you are the one deciding. And no one can make you have fun watching the movie Showgirls, but maybe the documentary brings you closer to that point. Especially considering where Berkley came from and where she went after that movie ... all depicted here. I almost feel sorry for her. But she accepted that the movie will always be a part of her and she relishes in it. One of the things you will learn here ... for fans of Showgirls mostly, but can work for others too. Still it makes sense to have seen the movie to fully understand or have the complete context
This exploration of what makes Showgirls such a great cult film is at times interesting, but with one main speaker on the subject, it can feel a bit like attending someone's lecture about this in a film school hall. No idea how prohibitive that would have been, but more input from some of the people who helped bring it to life would be interesting.
Reading the reviews for this documentary on IMDB, it seems clear to me most viewers didn't understand that the context for the various critical commentaries made in the documentary changes all the time as you watch. The fact almost nobody gets that this is happening is totally the documentary's fault. The editing is simply not clear enough with in its intentions.
What happens in this documentary is that its author, David Schmader, who sees a lot in Showgirls both in the positive and negative, and from both the genuine and camp angles, gets various critics - and/or actors standing in for critics, it's not clear - to read out their genuine and mostly negative critical reviews or thoughts of the film on the soundtrack. You never know if these thoughts were written today or back in 1995, or a mixture of both; the documentary never fully declares the sources.
Schmader then contrasts each of these critical attacks with his own additional commentary (or perhaps in some cases, other people's, but again, it's hard to tell) on the same themes or scenes from the film, pointing out value, directorial skill or just other ideas that people might have missed. He also shows clips from other Verhoeven films. These are illuminating when they're used to show recurring Verhoeven themes. Unfortunately, he also alters some of these shots as a sort of gag where the people in the other Verhoeven films are 'interacting' with elements of Showgirls, and these moments are usually downright confusing.
So people ranting on about 'wokeness' of this film and such - blame each critic David was quoting. Neither he nor the documentary is outright endorsing these views. They present them in order to either comment on them, refute them or expand on them. But because the doco is really bad at saying who's speaking from what time period, and when or why, it's understandable viewers miss this.
The crucial point is, this is NOT a single point of view film. It invites a pile of points of view, mostly bundling them into positive or negative camps (which you might expect - polarisation is the hallmark of Showgirls) and compares them, through unfortunately bad editing, usually giving the positive camp the last word. By stepping away from the critics' views late in the film, it ends with other kinds of positives. But make no mistake, you will hear a lot of negative commentary on Showgirls in this film.
What happens in this documentary is that its author, David Schmader, who sees a lot in Showgirls both in the positive and negative, and from both the genuine and camp angles, gets various critics - and/or actors standing in for critics, it's not clear - to read out their genuine and mostly negative critical reviews or thoughts of the film on the soundtrack. You never know if these thoughts were written today or back in 1995, or a mixture of both; the documentary never fully declares the sources.
Schmader then contrasts each of these critical attacks with his own additional commentary (or perhaps in some cases, other people's, but again, it's hard to tell) on the same themes or scenes from the film, pointing out value, directorial skill or just other ideas that people might have missed. He also shows clips from other Verhoeven films. These are illuminating when they're used to show recurring Verhoeven themes. Unfortunately, he also alters some of these shots as a sort of gag where the people in the other Verhoeven films are 'interacting' with elements of Showgirls, and these moments are usually downright confusing.
So people ranting on about 'wokeness' of this film and such - blame each critic David was quoting. Neither he nor the documentary is outright endorsing these views. They present them in order to either comment on them, refute them or expand on them. But because the doco is really bad at saying who's speaking from what time period, and when or why, it's understandable viewers miss this.
The crucial point is, this is NOT a single point of view film. It invites a pile of points of view, mostly bundling them into positive or negative camps (which you might expect - polarisation is the hallmark of Showgirls) and compares them, through unfortunately bad editing, usually giving the positive camp the last word. By stepping away from the critics' views late in the film, it ends with other kinds of positives. But make no mistake, you will hear a lot of negative commentary on Showgirls in this film.
I've never seen Showgirls, and I probably never will. But this movie does a nice job of laying out its history and exploring its cult-movie status. It also gives you all the nudity without having to watch the movie itself.
I see about half the reviews here hate this movie for being "woke," i.e. exploring how the movie portrays women. Having not seen the movie I can't speak to how persuasive the analysis is, but it's pretty interesting and they do make a good case. And I have never heard the opinion of anyone using "woke" or "feminist" as a criticism who wasn't a complete idiot, so that's a point for the movie over its critics.
The talking heads are smart and often witty, there are some interesting personal stories, there are a range of perspectives, its fun to see how the makers tried to spin their disaster, and there are some attractive naked ladies, so all-in-all worth watching.
I see about half the reviews here hate this movie for being "woke," i.e. exploring how the movie portrays women. Having not seen the movie I can't speak to how persuasive the analysis is, but it's pretty interesting and they do make a good case. And I have never heard the opinion of anyone using "woke" or "feminist" as a criticism who wasn't a complete idiot, so that's a point for the movie over its critics.
The talking heads are smart and often witty, there are some interesting personal stories, there are a range of perspectives, its fun to see how the makers tried to spin their disaster, and there are some attractive naked ladies, so all-in-all worth watching.
The great thing about Showgirls (1995) is that it gives a semi-futuristic image of a wasteland while at the moment it was shot it is taking place in reality. It was history in the making. In fact Paul Verhoeven created a dramatized documentary by hiring actors and a scenario writer. It was not a bad movie but a bad dream about American society. That's against the American Dream.
Showing Americans that they are in a Third World Country was in those years the biggest taboo. The documentary You Don't Nomi does not come to this conclusion, it describes the fuzz and confusion from a film press perspective, wondering why after so many years the movie regained respect.
Ask Paul Verhoeven to do a movie about the recent Capitol attack and he will show the ugliness of the patriots, including woman.
Showgirls is about that. Show the ugliness of the American way of setting up a sex industry and not able to handle it. A third world country, in 1995 nobody in the US was thinking of it this way... only an outsider could see it.
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