Beyond Paradise

Was really looking forward to this death in paradise spin off, especially as Kris Marshal was one of my favourite DIs from the series, and also because being a West Country boy it's set in my part of the world.

Filmed in Cornwall but bizzatly set in Devon, obviously didn't want to be seen to be mimicking Doc Martin too closely, although actually it's just a police version of doc Martin with a less grumpy lead. Just like Doc Martin & other West Country based series such as the dreadful McDonald and Dodds the actors have been sent to the same school of generic West Country accent coaching, (clearly based in the middle of Bristol) and ridiculously unsubtle, over the top and of course spoken by every single resident.

The locals are depicted as the stereotypical dumb village idiots which is just boringly tedious, plane lazy and unimaginative writing.

You couldn't get away with depicting any other social group in this way these days but here we are yet again!

The police officers in death in paradise weren't written as being imbeciles so why are they in this, especially the incredibly irritating older female secretary character.

It's a shame because this stupidity really ruins what could be an acceptable series, the fact it's different mysteries rather than murders is an interesting touch and of course some lovely scenery and touching moments between Humphrey and Martha. However the tiring carrot crunching yokel routine just ruins it.

You can mix comedy with more serious issues as shown in Death in Paradise and other successful pats series such as Heartbeat, but beyond paradise just come across as being an idiotic farce than amusing light hearted police drama.

When they said "Beyond" Paradise. I didn't know it would be completely different. I like a good Ole Cozy murder mystery. I know in real life murder is the most horrible thing. But Agatha Christie, Matlock, Murder She wrote, Death in Paradise are fun fake murder mysteries. That is what I love about them not too serious and fun acting and fun mystery.

I don't care about thefts of paintings and such. It's sooooooo not what I loved about Death in Paradise and its definitely no fun to have serious stories of not being able to have a baby... why? Why would you put in such a serious story line? It just makes Humphrey sad and it's not fun. Oh well just my opinion.

We cannot help but compare this series to Death in Paradise. DiP instantly showed its core identity and we were hooked. It was crime-solving with true friendship, joviality, trusted teammates and likeable characters. We enjoyed them in their off-time as if we were part of their merry making. The writers achieved a unique and tight balance; well written and a pleasure to watch, season after season.

I just finished season 1 of Beyond Paradise. I am disappointed at the product that has been delivered to a pre-existing captive audience! It struggles to find its identity: Is it a comedy, a comedy/drama or just a dark drama? BP has few likeable characters, it is thin on comedy. We want DI Goodman to be clumsy and endearing, to excel in his work and enjoy a home life - the formula we loved. Instead he is living a sad undercurrent at home. He has no reprieve from sleuthing. The best supporting character was supposed to be his fiancee. She instead offers nothing but pain. It is dark and depressing. We did not sign up for a soap opera home life. It distracts from the story and is a major disappointment that does not serve the series or its audience well. I would not be surprised if it is cancelled unless they change tack.

Enjoyable to watch, but please follow some of the examples provided by the original series which is super popular and in season 8. First you have Martha with a cafe or better yet a pub. Use it to develop the characters, give them some more depth and interest, like the ocean-side bar in Death in Paradise.

Directors and writers just tease us with the quirky young policeman and the secretary. In Death in Paradise we get hours of and background about the crazy locals. Why don't they do the same here instead of all that boring IVF, depressing Martha and her bully mother. I can't imagine any couple involved in IVF, when Martha is just opening a cafe and the Humphrey starting a new job at a new precinct. The director is probably male. They've barely unpacked their stuff on a boat around episode 3 and they dive into IVF, plus why is everyone drinking if trying to get pregnant.........save all that stuff for a season 3 or 4. Stick with developing the locale and the locals.

And why Archie? Humphrey is the sweetest, kindest of all the St. Marie detectives, why drag in a super handsome ex for Martha especially the first season. Martha's mother could help with cafe instead of just standing or sitting around doing nothing but criticize her daughter. I feel that any of us fans of the original show could write and direct a 10 times better script than what is being filmed and shown.

Humphrey and Martha's relationship really drags the show down. I don't think they have good chemistry and none of their plot lines make a lot of sense. They are both a bit old for the baby storyline IMO. Humphrey is played by a 50 year old man, Martha is played by a woman in her mid-40s. They look their age, especially in the brutal lighting of this show. Shouldn't there at least be a line about how time is running out to have children at all and that's why they needed medical interventions?

Why is there a love triangle at all? The other man is also well into his forties. Their engagement was decades ago. It seems forced for drama.

Their relationship story just seems like it's written for characters around age 30-early 20s failed relationships are still fresh but they are thinking about settling down, deciding if they want kids but still have a lot of time left for these big decisions. These two don't have that time! Where is the urgency?

Why is her mom so against Humphrey? Wouldn't it be better for her to excited about her daughter getting married and maybe having a baby? Not that anyone has to do either but by your mid-40s having never been married or having children is still unusual in 2023, you'd think someone would remark on it. Finding love when you least expect it, a chance at grandchildren. Something!

The mysteries are cute and the team there is pretty solid. They all seem to get along well and have their own personalities. Why have the dragged out, downer, unrealistic personal life subplot? Why couldn't Humphrey move there and be happy? Do the writers realize their relationship is a bad idea/they don't have chemistry and that's why it gets worse every episode? Could they be writing Martha out? I can only hope.