Icons Unearthed

I just can't take anything from Vice seriously.

Everything they produce is done with either a sensationalist view or from the view of their political ideology. I don't believe anything they produce can be trusted to be accurate or compete.

There are more than a few comments that back up my pint of view with detailed information about the failures of more than one of their productions. From incomplete telling of the History of Batman, to a complete failure of the recounting of the making of Star Wars. Both subjects have literally mountains of source information, and it should be a no-brained to be able to compile that information into complete and accurate histories. Yet Vice failed miserably on both those accounts, therefore there is no possible way to be confident in anything else they produce.

I love almost all the content regarding the making of star wars. I have read the books on it and have seen multiple documentaries, interviews, and more regarding it.

So when I saw a new series came out on the making of star wars, I watched it immediately! I was so excited!

Instead, I could barely get through the 2nd episode. The documentary is a disjointed biased mess. They have random writers and people describing things that happened while making of star wars, even though these people weren't even involved with it. There are a couple people interviewed that were actually involved in the making of Star Wars, with the big one being Marcia Lucas, which the documentary seems to be heavily biased towards, as if to appease her cooperation. I also felt like the documentary is trying to force a bunch of drama on the viewer that wasn't necessarily there.

I couldn't help but feel that this documentary is telling me a much worse version about the making of Star Wars than the more official documentary - Empire of Dreams. Instead of a random writer telling you George Lucas felt ill from the stress of making star wars, you can hear George Lucas say it himself in Empire of Dreams. Instead of random people telling you what Fox thought, you can hear Alan Ladd Jr. And a board member themselves tell you what the situation was. This occurs throughout the whole thing! Empire of dreams has interviews with Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Gary Kurtz, and much more! To put the icing on the cake, in episode 2 they even take a clip from Empire of Dreams where Steven Spielberg is interviewed and they use it here! I'm just baffled that Vice thought it was worth their time and the viewers time to retell a story that's already been told in a much better way.

If you want to watch the making of star wars, skip this show/documentary and watch Empire of Dreams instead.

A fan since the beginning. Read the Marvel Comics adaption, the first two issues before the movie came out.

So glad to see Marcia Lucas getting the attention and credit she deserves. She was short-changed by George. She should have received a percentage of the franchise due to her contributions. The same for Ralph McQuarrie, John Williams, Ben Burtt, John Dykstra, and others. Without their contributions, each integral, there would have been no Star Wars.

6 episodes of partial misinformation and a bunch of adults complaining like petulant children.

The tone of those episodes is so off. Why are you all so negative. Lighten up. You skipped past 95% of why Star Wars is great so you could pick it to shreds and find the most mundane mistakes to whine about incessantly.

Most of us loved all of those movies. And this show pretends that everyone hated them because it suits the narrative. Their narrative being 'Star Wars sucks, George Lucas didn't do anything good in it. Please interview us about it so we can complain and bore everyone.

And the ending, George's personal life with the divorce? What's that got to do with Star Wars doco? Talking about him and not giving him the chance to defend himself is quite weak and pathetic.

I've been watching the one on Batman since I've been a big Batman fan since I was a young child. It starts with the Batman movie series before Adam West. Then movies into the Batman tv series featuring Adam West. Then goes into Batman from 1989. It makes absolutely no mention of the Batman movie from 1966 staring Adam West. Makes no reference to the Justice Friends, which is not technically Batman but does had Batman in it. The series devotes an entire show to Batman from 1989 and then another episode to Batman Returns. The show then completely skips Batman the animated series and all the movies that stem from it, which chronically would be the next part of Batman, but goes to Batman Forever along with Batman and Robin which is mashed into one episode. It says Tim Burton was not involved in Batman Forever, yet he is listed as the producer. It is called Icons Unearthed and yet there seems to be a lot missing. The show professes to The Dark Knight trilogy, which surprisingly lacks detail about a lot of things like character selection, why they did not do the Robin/Nightwing spin off they seemed to set up in The Dark Knight Rises. As the show discusses The Dark Knight Rises they say Anne Hathaway silenced her critics, quickly followed by the fact that the movie had the lowest review scores of the trilogy. I don't like Hathaway's portrayal of catwoman and have heard many say the same. It makes a brief mention of The Joker and The Batman but ends with discussing them or Justice League, Batman vs Superman or even Flash which has 3 different Batman(s) in it. It's called Icons Unearthed and yet there is a lot they did not even mention.