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Si douces, si perverses

Titre original : Così dolce... così perversa
  • 1969
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  • 1h 32min
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Jean-Louis Trintignant, Carroll Baker, and Erika Blanc in Si douces, si perverses (1969)
Regarder Complete Lenzi/Baker Giallo Collection Official Trailer
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HorreurMystèreThriller

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueAn unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.

  • Réalisation
    • Umberto Lenzi
  • Scénario
    • Massimo D'Avak
    • Luciano Martino
    • Ernesto Gastaldi
  • Casting principal
    • Carroll Baker
    • Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Erika Blanc
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  • NOTE IMDb
    6,0/10
    1,4 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Scénario
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
    • Casting principal
      • Carroll Baker
      • Jean-Louis Trintignant
      • Erika Blanc
    • 26avis d'utilisateurs
    • 24avis des critiques
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    Complete Lenzi/Baker Giallo Collection Official Trailer
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    Complete Lenzi/Baker Giallo Collection Official Trailer

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    Rôles principaux18

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    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Nicole Perrier
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Jean Reynaud
    • (as Jean Louis Trintignant)
    Erika Blanc
    Erika Blanc
    • Danielle Reynaud
    Horst Frank
    Horst Frank
    • Klaus
    Helga Liné
    Helga Liné
    • Helene Valmont
    Ermelinda De Felice
    • Hotel Proprietor
    Giovanni Di Benedetto
    • Monsieur Valmont
    • (as Gianni Di Benedetto)
    Irio Fantini
    • Party Guest
    Dario Michaelis
    • Police Commissioner
    Renato Pinciroli
    • Porter
    Gianni Pulone
    • Press Photographer
    Lucio Rama
    • Party Guest
    Paola Scalzi
    • Helene's Friend
    Luigi Sportelli
    • Party Guest
    Beryl Cunningham
    Beryl Cunningham
    • Black Stripper
    Marcello Bonini Olas
    • Party Guest
    • (non crédité)
    Anna Scalzi
    • Jean's Secretary
    • (non crédité)
    Alessandro Tedeschi
    • Uomo Della Commissione
    • (non crédité)
    • Réalisation
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Scénario
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
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    8christopher-underwood

    Carroll Baker, excellent as ever

    Great title and if not particularly appropriate for the film, no matter, for this is a fine film. Carroll Baker, excellent as ever, although she does keep herself fairly well covered here and not always in the most stunning of outfits, Jean-Louis Trintignant does pretty much what he always does, well and Erika Blanc puts in a very strong performance. Solid directing by Lenzi, might have been stylish but pan and scan print ensures it does not appear so, and for the first half we have a rather fun, colourful and bright story of an extramarital affair. Things change, however, just as we begin to wonder if all is as it seems things change very much indeed. Hardly any blood or bare skin for that matter but a most involving tale, exceedingly well told, that certainly starts to flip about towards the end. Indeed until the very end!
    dbdumonteil

    Diaboliques II

    Caroll Baker :from Elia Kazan and John Ford to Umberto Lanzi:what a fall!to be fair,you must underline she played opposite Nicholson -quite well- in the overlooked "ironweed" ;this is not the kind of movie Jean Louis Trintignant must be very proud of !two years after Claude Chabrol's "Les Biches " in which he slept with two bisexual women too.

    The first part recalls a poor man's Chabrol,depicting the luxury world of the bourgeoisie .Trintignant ,a very earnest thespian,seems ill at ease ,but the women often strip bare ,to the viewer's great enjoyment.

    The second part is Lenzi trying to make his own "Diaboliques" :the heroine 's first name is Nicole ,like in Clouzot's classic ;it's almost absolute plagiarism -except for the mediocre ending- ,including the "clues" Baker scatters to frighten her mate and to make her believe that her dear husband might possibly be still alive .

    Take Dario Argento's movies instead:their screenplays ,though influenced by Hitchcock ,are much more exciting and original.
    6Jeremy_Urquhart

    It is what it is.

    Wikipedia calls this a giallo film, which I don't entirely see. I guess giallo doesn't have to be horror, but still. I guess the closer it leans into giallo stuff, the better So Sweet...So Perverse. There are some really feverish and bizarre scenes that play out in a zone that's somewhere between dream and nightmare. When things get more focused on the drama (all around a scheme that involves murder and infidelity), it's appropriately silly and heightened. It doesn't push those things too far, to the point where the film starts becoming an accidental parody of itself, but it comes fairly close in any event.

    I came away from it not feeling hugely enthusiastic, but for some of its offbeat energy, a few sequences, and an undeniable sense of style, I also can't call it bad.
    4tomgillespie2002

    Plodding early giallo from Umberto Lenzi

    The giallo may have been pioneered by the great Mario Bava and spectacularly refined by Dario Argento, but Umberto Lenzi was developing the techniques and stylings we now know and love from the mid-1960s. Before he became known for schlocky horror trash like Eaten Alive!, Nightmare City and Cannibal Ferox, Lenzi was toying with rich socialites and exploring pulpy, dime-store stories that often involved ridiculous, labyrinthine plots, psychedelic interiors, and beautiful, untrustworthy women. These are all ingredients of the giallo, and some of these early Lenzi efforts hint at a director with an eye for kitschy visuals, something that certainly doesn't come to mind when you watch a native tribesman scalp a poor traveller in the despicable Cannibal Ferox. These eye-catching visuals are certainly present in his 1969 film So Sweet... So Perverse, but there isn't much else to hold the attention in this plodding soap opera.

    Handsome, jet-setting socialite Jean Reynaud (Jean-Louis Trintignant) enjoys a lavish lifestyle of cocktail parties and shooting ranges, but he has grown bored and frustrated with the lack of passion in his marriage to the beautiful Danielle (Erika Blanc). To counter this, Jean sleeps with anybody who happens to catch his eye, including his friend Helene (Helga Line), and his head is turned by the woman who has just moved upstairs, Nicole (Carroll Baker). When he hears screams coming from above, he rushes to Nicole's aid, learning that she is stuck in an abusive sexual relationship with her husband Klaus (Horst Frank). As they spend more time together, the couple inevitably fall in love, yet whenever they escape for a weekend, Klaus always manages to track them down. After a night of passion, Nicole reveals that she and Klaus have actually been paid a hefty sum to lure in and eventually kill Jean, but that the one doing the hiring has not yet revealed themselves.

    With such a cool-sounding title (yet another famous trait of the gialli), there is nothing sweet and little perverse about the film itself. Argento eventually set a high standard for story-telling and the slow-building of tension within a vital set-piece, and the likes of Lucio Fulci and Sergio Martino added gory violence and a graceful style into the mix, but So Sweet... So Perverse is frustratingly tame, failing to ignite much interest in the plot or generate any excitement when events take a more sinister tone. Where Lenzi ultimately excels is in the glossy cinematography and dazzling interiors, which are garish enough to amusingly satirise the world of these detached characters and their materialistic lifestyles. Images of sun-drenched locations, expensive suits and beautiful, provocative women add a sleazy glamour and seductive glaze to the film, a hedonistic way-of-life Lenzi is happy to indulge as he shrewdly condemns it. It isn't quite enough to prevent So Sweet... So Perverse from becoming little more than a curious cinematic artefact, that ultimately paved the way for better directors to come along and take this new genre by the scruff.
    7The_Void

    One of Lenzi's best Giallo's!

    Umberto Lenzi Giallo's range in quality from sublime to trash, but his earlier genre entries tended to be the best; and So Sweet...So Perverse is certainly at the higher end of Lenzi's Giallo achievements. One of the trademarks of Giallo is a high dosage of sex scenes; but despite the fact that this film has the word 'perverse' in it's title; So Sweet...So Perverse is actually not all that perverse at all, especially not by Giallo standards. Rather, the film focuses more on the plot details than perversity, and it just about serves it well. Italian directors were famous for ripping of successful films from other countries, and the plot here is clearly lifted from the French classic 'Les Diaboliques'. We focus on a couple with marital problems; Jean and Danielle. When Jean hears a woman screaming in the upstairs apartment one day, he immediately decides to investigate. There he finds Nicole; a woman frightened of her boyfriend Klaus. The pair soon begin to fall in love, but it later transpires that this was just a trap set to snare Jean...

    So Sweet...So Perverse is a classy little thriller and much unlike later Lenzi Giallo's such as Eyeball, almost everything about the film is well done. The film benefits from a good cast, which feature early Lenzi muse Carroll Baker in the central female. Baker's role here initially appears to be a lot like her role in the earlier 'Orgasmo', but she soon gets to switch to a more interesting character. Baker is joined by the sexy Erika Blanc, and like most Giallo's with two sexy leading women; the pair do get to get it on, although you shouldn't go in expecting a full blown lesbian sex scene. Jean-Louis Trintignant rounds off the cast, but isn't given as much to do as the ladies. The plot does get a bit slow at times, but the film never slows down to the point of becoming boring. The second half is much more exciting than the first as that is when the plot gets into full flow. When the twists start to come into play, So Sweet...So Perverse really is an intriguing thriller and unlike many Giallo's, this one also features an ending that wraps most of the plot up nicely. This film is highly recommended to Giallo fans!

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    • Anecdotes
      Second part of a trilogy also including Une folle envie d'aimer (1969) and Formule un (1970).
    • Gaffes
      Aerial shots of Jean skiing behind a boat show the stunt double jumping the wake, and skiing, one-handed, far to the side on the open water, switch back and forth between close-ups of Jean-Claude Trintingant, but in the close-ups he is always in the wake, both hands on grips, directly behind the boat.
    • Citations

      Black Stripper: Taking your clothes off isn't any problem, you know, when there's enough loot.

      Monsieur Valmont: They say she can be great when she's tight.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Yellow Fever: The Rise and Fall of the Giallo (2016)
    • Bandes originales
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      Sung by J. Vincent Edwards (as J. Vincent Edward)

      Music by Riz Ortolani

      Lyrics by Norman Newell

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    • Date de sortie
      • 26 février 1971 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • Italie
      • France
      • Allemagne de l'Ouest
    • Langue
      • Italien
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • So Sweet... So Perverse
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Punta Ala, Castiglione della Pescaia, Grosseto, Tuscany, Italie(scene by the sea)
    • Sociétés de production
      • Cedic
      • Flora Film
      • Rapid Film
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    • Durée
      • 1h 32min(92 min)
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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