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La vallée

  • 1972
  • 12
  • 1h 41min
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Bulle Ogier in La vallée (1972)
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La cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Ma... Tout lireLa cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Mapuga, en Nouvelle Guinée.La cinéaste Barbet Schroeder explore les thèmes de la liberté sexuelle, de l'altération de l'esprit et de la quête du paradis lors d'une rencontre du début des années 70 avec la tribu des Mapuga, en Nouvelle Guinée.

  • Réalisation
    • Barbet Schroeder
  • Scénario
    • Barbet Schroeder
    • Paul Gégauff
  • Casting principal
    • Bulle Ogier
    • Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    • Michael Gothard
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    • Réalisation
      • Barbet Schroeder
    • Scénario
      • Barbet Schroeder
      • Paul Gégauff
    • Casting principal
      • Bulle Ogier
      • Jean-Pierre Kalfon
      • Michael Gothard
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    Bulle Ogier
    Bulle Ogier
    • Viviane
    Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    Jean-Pierre Kalfon
    • Gaëtan
    Michael Gothard
    Michael Gothard
    • Olivier
    Valérie Lagrange
    Valérie Lagrange
    • Hermine
    Monique Giraudy
    • Monique
    Jérôme Beauvarlet
    • Yann
    Bob Mac Kay
    Charles Ivano
    The Mapuga Tribe and its Chiefs
    • Themselves
    • Réalisation
      • Barbet Schroeder
    • Scénario
      • Barbet Schroeder
      • Paul Gégauff
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    7marshalskrieg

    When you fall from grace, that's it.

    Deep philosophical and poetic time capsule film circa 1972. A main character seems like a young yet more wholesome Klaus Kinski. Lush scenery and intense authentic native tribal rituals. As 'decadent' civilized misfits trek deep into the jungle searching for paradise, they find bitter truths. Awesome soundtrack by The Pink Floyd. This is an 'idea' movie accompanied by a vibrant and wonderful landscape. This really could have happened exactly as portrayed in the film. If you want to know what it was like to be a globe trotting mystic hippie in 1972, this one is for you.
    nnad

    Great Film and music by the Floyd.

    The Valley is not for everyone's taste but is still worth a look. Sometimes looking like a cross between Jimi Hendrix's Rainbow Bridge and National Geographic, the Valley pretty much centers on the same themes of the former although it exhibits a much more lucid character development, not to mention poetic discourse. The film follows a group of hippies on an expedition for the `Valley obscured by Clouds.' Interwoven with the story is the relationship of the films two main characters ---- likewise, their infidelities and their hypocrisies. Although somewhat slow at moments (i.e., the group's interaction with a peaceful African tribe) the Valley primarily has a steady pace; however, this minor flaw is (!) obscured by the beautiful cinematography and scenery. I enjoyed a large percentage of this film (especially the incidental music composed by Pink Floyd) but the ending a bit abrupt, a quality that may upset some viewers wanting more. Nevertheless, the Valley is still a great film with a beautiful story and beautiful images. Note: about the music, if you're looking for another Pink Floyd album in this movie, forget it! As mentioned above, it's purely incidental and few of the Floyd's songs are in this film. Go buy the complete soundtrack in the stores.
    lopingbuzzard

    Came for the music, stayed for the story

    I saw this film at the Plaza in New York City around 1981. I went to hear the Floyd music but I quickly became so engrossed that I forgot about the music. Determined to travel to the mysterious valley that is always obscured from the air by clouds, a group of Caucasians cross New Guinea. They meet isolated tribes (NOT African - this is New Guinea, remember), experience love and loss, discover themselves, etc. And I thought the ending was wonderful. A little Easy Rider, a little Sorcerer, a lot of atmosphere and style. Naturalist-docu-fiction. Unique and unforgettable.
    StanfordCollins

    valley of spiritual freedom

    It's not easy to do justice to La Vallee in a few sentences. It weaves adventure, anthropology, social criticism, nature, and relationships into a parable of self-revelation. The film focuses on Viviane, one of the beautiful people who know all good things except heart-felt passion. Literally by accident, her fascination with exotic feathers draws her into an expedition with a "family" of Utopian idealists. As they cross New Guinea in search of an isolated valley, Viviane simultaneously experiences a joyful odyssey across her suppressed inner landscapes. Sumptuously filmed events interlaced with moments of self-revelation transform Viviane from a pampered woman of the world to an impassioned child of nature, and beyond. Each character influences her personal quest differently: pragmatic enlightenment (Olivier), universal love (Hermine), visionary fanaticism (Gataen), oneness with nature (native tribe).

    Outer and inner realities begin to merge, eventually reflecting and enhancing each other in mystical parallelism. She becomes possessed by a sense of seamless unity between her self and her environment. Feeling herself flow into the world around her is a joyful reward that richly compensates for forfeiting every accoutrement of civilization. Anyone expecting to see them giggling merrily over tropical drinks in a valley of palm trees and friendly monkeys is in for a rude shock. This is an honest film. Our little self-styled cult of postmodern zealots knows the price of following the inner path and they have prepared themselves to pay it fully. We do see their valley though we may not readily recognize it as paradise. The Valley obscured by clouds is the ultimate parallel symbol in this film of symbols: it is the undiscovered depths of ones being, and an enabling realm of detachment totally cut off from self-alienating civilizations. La Vallee marks a path by which one aspires to universal harmony through unfettered spiritual freedom.

    Schroeder uses varying combinations of sound and picture as an expressive tool. As the story progresses, he steadily diminishes emphasis on words while increasing the importance of images. Conversations in rather bland settings dominate the first part of the film (excepting some rapt moments under the seductive spell of magic feathers). Gradually, visual elements gain prominence. The final scene is in the style of silent film, with only sparse dialog inserted like a few lines of printed text in a Chaplin movie. Our experience of this shift from word-biased content to image-biased content is also Viviane's experience as she gradually reaches into parts of herself that are beyond words. This structural analogy lets us join her inner transformation through our eyes and ears, thus making the abstract seem real. It also unifies style and substance in a way that contributes handsomely to the film's focus and intensity. Every aspect of this film was created solely by movie professionals. La Vallee is an impressive example of the unique potential of their craft.

    Those who would turn to this film mostly to hear Pink Floyd's music should buy the CD instead. Three years later Pink Floyd released Wish You Were Here which has a similar theme. If you like Wish You Were Here, you will probably also like La Vallee.
    7Bribaba

    Tribal Gatherings

    Barbet Schroeder is in danger of becoming a legend in his own lifetime. From this rather beautiful hippie opus, to Single White Female and more recently, an episode of Mad Men, this is a man with no respect for boundaries. The main character in this 1971 film is Vivian (Bulle Ogier), a collector of rare feathers which she sells in a posh boutique. While on holiday in New Guinea she joins a hippie expedition, hoping to add more fluff to her collection. She's the wife of a diplomat, bourgeois, liberal and a 'sport' as she puts it. The primary aim of the trek is to locate a (possibly mythical) paradisaical valley way over yonder, kind of like Richard's pursuit of the perfect beach in the Alex Garland novel, but with a more metaphysical bent.

    It's the journey not the arrival that grabs and cameraman Nestor Almendros, whose credits include Malick's Days of Heaven, really comes to the fore as his images compensate for any narrative slack. Eventually the group encounter the isolated but photogenic Magupa tribe, just about to start an incredible festival - cue more stunning images. That's about as dramatic as it gets - there's no manufactured events, just the group interacting with the natives and each other. For Vivian the journey becomes a voyage of self-discovery aided by some local hallucinogenics, though her newly-found freedom is tested both physically and philosophically by her lover as they approach their destination. By this time dialogue is sparse as the film slips into National Geographic mode. But it's Ogier who really keeps things together here, offering a riveting portrayal of a woman in transition. There's some discourse on the relative merits of the contrasting civilisations, and questions which throw doubt on the hippies belief in the superiority of the 'natural' way of life. Pink Floyd contribute the soundtrack (Obscured by Clouds) but its barely audible aside from the closing credits.

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      The soundtrack to this film was released as a Pink Floyd album. Due to a spat with the film company after filming was complete, the Floyd decided not to mention the planned film title, "La Vallee," in the album's title and instead chose to call the release "Obscured By Clouds," echoing a line of dialogue from the film. In response, "Obscured By Clouds" was added as a subtitle so it could gain from Pink Floyd's popularity. This turned out to be a good move as Pink Floyd would soon gain even more fame with the release of "Dark Side of the Moon" just a few months later.
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      Viviane: Olivier, isn't it wonderful... We've become so close to them. We're practically like them. Look at Gaetan and Hermine... it's great! I'm happy. We've found truth, you know.

      [kisses his shoulder, but he looks sad]

      Viviane: What's wrong, Olivier?

      Olivier: It's just the opposite.

      Viviane: What's the opposite?

      Olivier: We're lying. Whatever Gaetan says, we're tourists here.

      Viviane: What do you mean, "tourists"? I don't get it, what's that supposed to mean?

      [angry]

      Viviane: It's disgusting, hearing you talk like that, you've spent months here with Gaetan, and that's all... You don't understand. What are you, stupid?

      Olivier: Dancing's easy. Could you work with them?

      Viviane: Yes, absolutely!

      Olivier: Women are even more exploited here.

      [Viviane starts to think]

      Olivier: You know, Viviane, among the Kombugas society is bound by very strict rules.

      Viviane: Same with ours.

      Olivier: It's not the same thing... We're trying to break ours. When they dance, it's not just for the pleasure of it, it's to obey something. Look, this is the cemetery, they're dancing on their dead. We seek after pleasure, and maybe peace. They couldn't care less about that.

      Viviane: I don't know, Olivier, but look at this festival. Everyone's happy together. Why do we all understand, without words... like real friends? Why the understanding, why is it so simple here, eh?

      Olivier: It's O.K. But that doesn't mean much.

      Viviane: You really disappoint me. You're just like my husband.

      Olivier: Sure, we all like each other, but it doesn't go any farther. How can you expect real rapports between us, who tear down our social restrictions, and them, who live in terror and... and respect for taboos?

      Viviane: I don't know, but it's possible. We're finding something else, that's all. Don't you believe in mysterious forces?

      Olivier: Oh, sure, very much. But not in their way. For us, that's impossible. One can't forget one's past, Viviane. It's not possible to undo your conditioning. Once it's lost, innocence can't be found again. Paradise is a place with many exits, but no entrance... There's no way back from knowledge... When you fall from grace, that's it. I wonder, to find it again, whether we shouldn't do just the opposite of what we've done... If we shouldn't take another bite out of the apple.

      [Viviane walks away]

    • Connexions
      Edited into Virus cannibale (1980)
    • Bandes originales
      Obscured By Clouds
      Written by Pink Floyd

      Performed by Pink Floyd

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    • Date de sortie
      • 11 juillet 1972 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
    • Langues
      • Français
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • The Valley (Obscured by Clouds)
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Papouasie Nouvelle Guinée
    • Sociétés de production
      • Les Films du Losange
      • Société Nouvelle de Cinématographie (SNC)
      • Circle Associates Ltd.
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