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Joe Dancer - Le trou noir

Titre original : The Big Black Pill
  • Téléfilm
  • 1981
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 40min
NOTE IMDb
5,7/10
112
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Joe Dancer - Le trou noir (1981)
CrimeDramaMystery

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre languePrivate detective Joe Dancer is given a big-money case by Tiffany Farinpour, whose family includes powerful politicians. Tiffany needs Joe to find her younger brother David, who has left the... Tout lirePrivate detective Joe Dancer is given a big-money case by Tiffany Farinpour, whose family includes powerful politicians. Tiffany needs Joe to find her younger brother David, who has left the family under a cloud.Private detective Joe Dancer is given a big-money case by Tiffany Farinpour, whose family includes powerful politicians. Tiffany needs Joe to find her younger brother David, who has left the family under a cloud.

  • Réalisation
    • Reza Badiyi
  • Scénario
    • Robert Blake
    • Michael Butler
    • Les Alexander
  • Casting principal
    • Robert Blake
    • JoBeth Williams
    • Neva Patterson
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    5,7/10
    112
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Reza Badiyi
    • Scénario
      • Robert Blake
      • Michael Butler
      • Les Alexander
    • Casting principal
      • Robert Blake
      • JoBeth Williams
      • Neva Patterson
    • 6avis d'utilisateurs
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Robert Blake
    Robert Blake
    • Joe Dancer
    JoBeth Williams
    JoBeth Williams
    • Tiffany Farrenpour
    Neva Patterson
    Neva Patterson
    • Eliza Farinpour
    James Gammon
    James Gammon
    • Captain Jake Jacqualone
    Veronica Cartwright
    Veronica Cartwright
    • Sister Theresa
    Carol Wayne
    Carol Wayne
    • Allegra Farinpour
    Edward Winter
    Edward Winter
    • Jerrold Farinpour
    Phillip R. Allen
    Phillip R. Allen
    • Commissioner Wilkie
    Sondra Blake
    • Charlie
    Eileen Heckart
    Eileen Heckart
    • Sister Clara
    Wilford Brimley
    Wilford Brimley
    • Wally Haskell
    Kevyn Major Howard
    Kevyn Major Howard
    • David Farinpour
    Kenneth Tigar
    Kenneth Tigar
    • Trotter
    Bubba Smith
    Bubba Smith
    • Big Foot
    Robert Phillips
    Robert Phillips
    • Little Al
    Stanton Coffin
    Deborah La Vine
    Marie Todd
    Marie Todd
    • Réalisation
      • Reza Badiyi
    • Scénario
      • Robert Blake
      • Michael Butler
      • Les Alexander
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    bob the moo

    One long Bogart impression

    Joe dancer is a private detective working in LA. He's given a big money case by Tiffany Farinpour, one of the Farinpour family who include powerful politicians. Tiffany needs Joe to find her younger brother David who has left the family under a cloud. However in trying to find David Joe is warned off by several thugs before finally finding David in a small town just trying to live a quiet life. Seconds later David is killed by a hidden assassin and Joe finds all evidence of his life in the town has been erased and Joe is facing a murder charge. With the clock ticking Joe must find the killer in a plot that involves danger and deep family secrets.

    The story here wants to be really shady and deep, but it doesn't totally make it. There's some mystery along the way but the final twists are clear once the plot starts to come together. The sense of deep family secrets isn't convincing - this is a TV movie after all, how dark can it be? However, even when the plot is being a good crime thriller it becomes lazy in it's solutions. At some points I was grabbed by the plot - who was the killer? who wanted David dead? but then at key moments the answers come too easy - the killer cleans up all bullet casings and remove David's possessions but leaves his prescription glasses at the scene, in another Joe walks for miles only to find the exact spot a gunman had stood. Things like this (and there's several) let the whole film down and make you forget the build-up and only remember the rubbish answers.

    Another problem is Robert Blake he so clearly wants to Humphrey Bogart that he created this character to let him get close to those hard-boiled detective roles that Bogart played so well (Dancer even points out that he has all Bogart's films on tape at home). At one point in the film one character says "we don't have to say anything stupid like in the movies do we?", but the problem is we do - the whole film consists of poor dialogue, mostly delivered by Blake. The worst element of his Bogart impression is his voice over/narration - it's terrible. While Bogart's voiceovers usually gave an insight into his mind and feelings, Blake's treats us like children, walking us through the plot and the clues, not allowing us to work things out for ourselves. In some cases whole scenes are narrated with the action happening silently underneath. It makes this feel cheap with the Bogart-isms forced to breaking point.

    The performances are not great - no one really stands out. The only actor that caught my eye was Bubba Smith but only because he later found "fame" as Hightower in the Police Academy films. Overall the performances were as good as the material required.

    Overall a good plot that is spoilt by some lazy solutions and a terrible Bogart impression by Robert Blake.
    3matthewssilverhammer

    The archetype of corny, lumbering dad action that was so prevalent in 70s and 80s TV.

    Notably, Robert Blake, playing an ultra-bland version of Columbo, gets hit on by both Veronica Cartwright AND JoBeth Williams...one of the best examples of the power of producing your own starring projects.
    2tomgnel

    Terrible but fun to watch

    Robert Blake obviously created this story with "China Town" as its inspiration. His character, Joe Dancer, is entangled with a rich and powerful family with deep roots in LA. He is enticed and misled by a beautiful heiress. Other members of the family try to hire him away. There are some embarrassing secrets that are at the bottom of the plot as well as some political intrigue. Does this sound familiar?

    The plot is helped along with some incredible "jump cuts" and implausible action scenes. Blake jumps off a water tower onto a moving train while carrying the body of a full grown adult! When he lands, no attempt is made to disguise the fact that the "body" is actually a poorly constructed dummy. Later, Blake handily disposes of a thug played by the towering Bubba Smith in a train yard fight. How the diminutive Joe Dancer achieves this feat is neatly obscured in darkness.

    Unlike Jake Giddes, Jack Nicholson's flawed character in "China Town," Joe Dancer comes across as almost superhuman. I personally believe that this film reveals its star and creator, Robert Blake, to be an egomaniac of unusual proportions, even for Hollywood.

    This is one of those films that is so bad, it is fun to watch. It is a testament to how a famous actor with a bad idea and a lot of influence can spin a flimsy plot into a Hollywood production.
    1darth76

    Really awful

    At first I thought that I was watching a parody of a police movie, as neither the actor could be taken seriously as a tough private investigator, nor the dialogues were natural (often, there were quite illogical, as well). If you see the scene with the nun praying to God to save the good detective from drowning and him replying "Don't thank God, thank the water that was not cold and these old bones", you certainly believe that you are dealing with a parody. Then I realised that this movie was serious and that was based in a TV series. Everything here is incredibly pathetic: low-budget directory without fantasy, a script that brings into mind a soap opera and, last but not least, bad acting.

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    • Date de sortie
      • 20 janvier 1988 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Joe Dancer
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Hollywood Freeway, Hollywood, Los Angeles, Californie, États-Unis(Joe drives out of town.)
    • Société de production
      • Filmways Television
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