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Les témoignages des membres de la secte NXIVM qui ont fait la une des journaux après avoir été accusés de proxénétisme et d'escroquerie.Les témoignages des membres de la secte NXIVM qui ont fait la une des journaux après avoir été accusés de proxénétisme et d'escroquerie.Les témoignages des membres de la secte NXIVM qui ont fait la une des journaux après avoir été accusés de proxénétisme et d'escroquerie.
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This was necessary, I am on episode 8 and I can see why some people feel this has been dragged out , but is it ? No; the point is that these people are still in this and it's all about the how , how they got there happen.
How can this happen to sophisticated people with resources. I don't feel it's been stretched out , in fact, the issue for me is binge watching which creates tedium ( it's probably why it's been released weekly)
Anyone who walks away thinking it can't happen to them had missed the point imo. This is happening now the fallout is current events , it's no tiger king this involves thousands of people across the globe and i am not expecting resolution by episode 9. I am hopeful but I believe this was meant to take us in the journey of how they got to where that are and the frustrations and obstacles of getting out . There are still people in right now .
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There is a lot of good footage, audio recordings, and interviews that help tell the story. The subject matter is fairly interesting, and I do think it's a story worth telling. The problem is that it's disorganized and could use a heavy edit.
Like so many modern docuseries, this feels stretched. The time jumps are odd, and often the scenes feel random and disjointed. You can watch a scene and be left to wonder, "So when did that happen?" because it will be following some footage from 2005 or a phone call recording from 2010. It still works, sort of, but you know it could be so much better if they dropped the fluff and told the story in a direct way.
Like so many modern docuseries, this feels stretched. The time jumps are odd, and often the scenes feel random and disjointed. You can watch a scene and be left to wonder, "So when did that happen?" because it will be following some footage from 2005 or a phone call recording from 2010. It still works, sort of, but you know it could be so much better if they dropped the fluff and told the story in a direct way.
Too many episodes... They made 10 "ok" episodes instead of making four really good episodes that had just enough coverage and length.. Instead, it kind of drags on and doesn't really grab me as much due to the repetitiveness of it. It's still pretty good, mainly due to the large collection of recorded calls, but it could have benefited from more brevity.
The story of NXIVM is massive. It's impossible for every notable detail to make the final cut. That said, there are some omissions that seem significant. For example, investigative journalist Frank Parlato, who has written extensively about NXIVM over the years, is mentioned in early episodes and characterized as someone who isn't always viewed as credible. But in the seventh episode, Parlato becomes a supporting figure in the series as he helps actress Catherine Oxenberg, whose daughter India refuses to leave NXIVM, in her attempt to get law enforcement involved in the situation. Given all the evidence Parlato has compiled and his willingness to help, he comes across as semi-heroic, albeit eccentric. A visit to his website, the Frank Report, reveals that it's filled with reporting on NXIVM but also posts written by Roger Stone and at least one defense of QAnon, a juxtaposition that caused so much cognitive dissonance in my brain that it turned into a popping-confetti cannon. While it's understandable that Noujaim and Amer decided that a whole sidebar on Parlato would be too distracting, this still raises the question of what other notable information or nuances may have been sliced out of the series.
Ironically, the recent focus in the news on the cultlike believers in QAnon conspiracy theories makes The Vow an especially relevant watch. While NXIVM coaches often preached the notion that trusting one's intuition can be misleading - "Your intuition was just a feeling, a viscera," Bonnie Piesse says in the second episode - the series is a testimony to how vital it is to check one's gut and apply real, unvarnished critical thinking to events unfolding around us. Any of us can potentially have the wool pulled over our eyes by a dude who calls himself Vanguard, or anonymous online posters, or even a president. It's what we do after we realize our vision has been obscured that truly defines whether we're good or bad, and whether we're safe or still in grave danger.
Ironically, the recent focus in the news on the cultlike believers in QAnon conspiracy theories makes The Vow an especially relevant watch. While NXIVM coaches often preached the notion that trusting one's intuition can be misleading - "Your intuition was just a feeling, a viscera," Bonnie Piesse says in the second episode - the series is a testimony to how vital it is to check one's gut and apply real, unvarnished critical thinking to events unfolding around us. Any of us can potentially have the wool pulled over our eyes by a dude who calls himself Vanguard, or anonymous online posters, or even a president. It's what we do after we realize our vision has been obscured that truly defines whether we're good or bad, and whether we're safe or still in grave danger.
Its true that the series sometimes repeats itself and its not very chronological accurate, but i actually didnt care i enjoyed all the episodes. I never find it boring for one second, and believe me when i find something boring i never insist. I liked the fact that they gave time for everyone to tell their story. They were relly concerned with having the most "pawns" as possible.
They could be even darkerer, they could have made this orderly in terms of time framing, but i really enjoyed it how it is. Plus the music is good, the directing and editing are great, i liked a lot the cinematography...is a really well made series that will go deep in terms o why these people enjoyed such a nefarious organization. Please give it a watch.
They could be even darkerer, they could have made this orderly in terms of time framing, but i really enjoyed it how it is. Plus the music is good, the directing and editing are great, i liked a lot the cinematography...is a really well made series that will go deep in terms o why these people enjoyed such a nefarious organization. Please give it a watch.
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- AnecdotesAlthough Allison Mack's custody includes not using the Internet, she was identified as a student at Berkeley in September 2020, which generated online outrage from her classmates. Mack apparently enrolled in multiple courses such as "Gender, Sex, and Power" and "The History and Practice of Human Rights."
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