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Charlie Says

  • 2018
  • R
  • 1h 50min
NOTE IMDb
5,9/10
5,7 k
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Matt Smith, Sosie Bacon, Hannah Murray, and Marianne Rendón in Charlie Says (2018)
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La tragique histoire d'une jeune fille américaine transformée en tueuse sans pitié durant l'été 1969.La tragique histoire d'une jeune fille américaine transformée en tueuse sans pitié durant l'été 1969.La tragique histoire d'une jeune fille américaine transformée en tueuse sans pitié durant l'été 1969.

  • Réalisation
    • Mary Harron
  • Scénario
    • Guinevere Turner
    • Ed Sanders
  • Casting principal
    • Hannah Murray
    • Matt Smith
    • Sosie Bacon
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,9/10
    5,7 k
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Mary Harron
    • Scénario
      • Guinevere Turner
      • Ed Sanders
    • Casting principal
      • Hannah Murray
      • Matt Smith
      • Sosie Bacon
    • 71avis d'utilisateurs
    • 89avis des critiques
    • 57Métascore
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    • Récompenses
      • 1 nomination au total

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    Hannah Murray
    Hannah Murray
    • Leslie 'Lulu' Van Houten
    Matt Smith
    Matt Smith
    • Charles Manson
    Sosie Bacon
    Sosie Bacon
    • Patricia 'Katie' Krenwinkel
    Marianne Rendón
    Marianne Rendón
    • Susan 'Sadie' Atkins
    Merritt Wever
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    • Karlene Faith
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    Suki Waterhouse
    • Mary Brunner
    Chace Crawford
    Chace Crawford
    • Tex Watson
    Annabeth Gish
    Annabeth Gish
    • Virginia Carlson
    Kayli Carter
    Kayli Carter
    • Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme
    Grace Van Dien
    Grace Van Dien
    • Sharon Tate
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    Bridger Zadina
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    Julia Schlaepfer
    Julia Schlaepfer
    • Sandra Good
    Dayle McLeod
    Dayle McLeod
    • Catherine 'Gypsy' Share
    Morgan Melton
    Morgan Melton
    • Ruth Ann Moorehouse
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    India Ennenga
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    Aria Taylor
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    Cameron Gellman
    • Bobby Beausoliel
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    Christopher Frontiero
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      • Mary Harron
    • Scénario
      • Guinevere Turner
      • Ed Sanders
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    Gordon-11

    An engaging story

    This film tells the story of three women who are jailed for murdering strangers.

    Instead of drilling the details of the murder, the plot concentrates on the brain washing done by Charles Manson and its devastating effects on the women. The result is an engaging story of how the women get to the brainwashed state, which most people will struggle to understand.
    8fewald139

    A Harrowing Take on Brainwashing

    Charlie Says is yet another take on the Manson cult/murders, but it offers a fresh perspective using a unique method of storytelling. Whereas most media about the Manson family focuses on the murders, Charlie Says is told from the perspective of the.women involved in the crimes, particularly Leslie "Lulu" Van Houten (played by Hannah Murray), and its main concern is the build-up to the crime and the aftermath. Director Mary Harron shines a spotlight on life in the cult, Manson's charming but increasingly crazed antics, the ease of brainwashing lost and traumatized youths, and the difficulties in getting these women to see their crimes for the horrific acts they truly were.

    The biggest draws of the film for me were some of its actors. Matt Smith plays Charles Manson to perfection, highlighting his charisma, eccentricities, and slow spiral into increasing violence; wisely, the cracks in his charismatic armor start small and widen over time, once his followers are already sucked into his version of the world. He is at once irresistibly charming, intriguing, and yet off-putting and fearsome, showing moments of love, care, and other moments of domestic abuse and overt control. Merritt Wever plays Karlene Faith, a graduate student sent to the Manson women in prison in order to give them an education, and she serves as a mirror for the audience as she struggles to understand the women's continued insistence that they believe Charlie's visions will come to pass despite all evidence and odds. Merritt's disbelief and overwhelming frustration is played wonderfully, as is her struggle with seeing these women as both murderers and lost souls who were taken advantage of by one of America's most infamous cult leaders. Finally, Sosie Bacon plays Patricia "Katie" Krenwinkel, one of the Manson women, and goes through such believable phases of intense emotion, both in and outside of the cult.

    Some reviewers have stated this movie seeks to empathize with the killers, and I found that to be untrue. These women are guilty; there is no doubt about that, and the movie does not argue otherwise. In fact, the climax of the film sees the women having to face the fact that they did horrific crimes because they were told to, not because they had to. Karlene even says earlier in the film that by making them understand that, she will essentially doom them to bear that weight the rest of their lives. She is conflicted over this, but the movie never dares suggest that isn't what they deserve. Still, people are not so easily defined, and the movie makes the case that women who are victims in one sense (of brainwashing and a cult) can also be perpetrators in another (burglary and murder), and the two identities can absolutely be connected. It is worth questioning how that connection is made and what we can do as a society to keep the traumatized from becoming abusers themselves.

    As for negatives, one or two line readings from the lead actress, Hannah Murray, were stale and could have been delivered better. While I mentioned this movie does not glorify the crimes, it does have two scenes of violence relating to a few of the murders for those who wish to skip true-to-life violence. Like most depictions of the Manson family, a little "too" much attention is given to Sharon Tate versus all the other victims, though that isn't much of a negative because she is in the movie for a total of two minutes or less. She was beautiful and famous, yes, but let's not forget the others who senselessly lost their lives to this cult.

    Overall, Charlie Says is a welcome addition to the media about the Manson family, if only because it has new questions to unwrap and perspectives to offer. I almost skipped it because of its mind-boggling lower score, but I'm glad I didn't. It became my favorite Mansion family-related movie to date. I highly suggest you give it a watch if you are interested in the Manson family, true crime, or cult behavior.
    5peterp-450-298716

    Combining drugs with a nitwit preaching crazy stuff isn't healthy.

    When I first met Charlie, I just knew. Hopped on a bus and I never looked back.

    Charles Manson seems to be a hot topic this year. Not only there's the Tarantino movie "Once upon a time ... in Hollywood" in which the Manson Family plays a prominent role, but also this "Charlie Says" focuses on this cult leader from the 60s. It's rather a docu-drama in which the person Manson himself isn't really the central topic. Rather, it's the female members of the Manson family who receive the most attention. A mixed bag of vulnerable, somewhat naive young girls who probably don't realize that Manson's sermons are pure nonsense due to the abundance of soft drugs and the eating of not so kosher mushrooms. Delusions presented by a confused mind. A despotic person and a bundle of contradictions.

    The actresses Hannah "Game of Thrones" Murray, Sosie Bacon and Marianne Rendon, who played the characters Leslie van Houten, Patricia Krenwinkel and Susan Atkins respectively, acted generally convincingly. The way these young ladies accept their fate while sitting in adjacent cells waiting for their death penalty is not only frightening but also shows how brainwashed they are by the Machiavellian Manson. Their empathetic attitude towards the horrific facts shows how convinced they are that nothing criminal has been committed by them. In their eyes, it was a necessary thing to do. But mainly because "Charlie said it". Hence the title of this film.

    The biggest disappointment is Charles Manson himself, played by Matt Smith. The character lacked charisma. Apart from his sometimes eccentric reasonings and tantrums, I didn't get the idea of dealing with a psychopathic, manic person here. Rather he's a strange hippie with a fake beard who prefers to strum a guitar and who enjoys how the young girls gawk at him full of adoration. Furthermore, I am not a fan of flashbacks. And let that now be the basis of this film. So expect a huge amount of back and forth jumping in time. However, if you aren't familiar with this Manson phenomenon and what this insane cult leader is guilty of, "Charlie Says" is an excellent starting point to discover it. Perhaps the film scores high in originality by showing the whole from the point of view of the female cult members. But still, I recommend watching the films "Helter Skelter" from 1976 and "The Manson family" from 2003.

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    6dancy-35334

    Solid acting, but mostly stereotypical Hollywood Surface level drama/storytelling

    If you didn't already know who this guy was, what his crimes were, and what his motives were then you probably won't much of a clue as to what happened from scene to scene in this movie. So much time is spent on showing shocking things without actually explaining what is going on.

    Characters are surface level.

    As a plus, I thought the acting was pretty solid, especially for Manson. With stronger writing, this film could have been a lot better.
    7richardchatten

    Who's the Piggy?

    Based on the novel 'The Family' by Ed Sanders, this is one of three films in which Charles Manson featured in 2018, and a film about the Moors Murders would complete a trilogy by director Mary Harron beginning with 'I Shot Andy Warhol' depicting women provoked into irrational violence by an unwarranted infatuation with a weird control freak (Brady and Manson both had in common with their idol Adolf Hitler that they possessed the egotism and disdain for convention of great creative geniuses but not the actual creativity).

    There's a surprising amount of God talk by Manson and his coven, and for once the current fashion for swaying steadicam photography suits the lack of balance shown by this unholy trinity of impressionable young ladies.

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    • Anecdotes
      The original Spawn Movie Ranch burned to the ground in a wildfire in 1970. The Spahn Movie Ranch in this movie was actually filmed at the nearby Corriganville Park in Simi Valley, California. Quentin Tarantino later filmed on the same set for the scenes set in Spahn Movie Ranch in Once Upon a Time in... Hollywood (2019).
    • Gaffes
      In the film, Katie complains about the broken knife handle hurting her hand during the murders. It was actually Susan Atkins who said this.
    • Citations

      Joan Didion: Many people I know in Los Angeles believe that the Sixties ended abruptly on August 9, 1969, at the exact moment when word of the murders on Cielo Drive traveled like brushfire through the community, and in a sense this is true. The tension broke that day. The paranoia was fulfilled. - Joan Didion, The White Album

    • Connexions
      Referenced in Half in the Bag: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019)
    • Bandes originales
      Let It Be Me
      Written by Jimmy Lloyd Head (BMI)

      Published by J Mae Music Publishing (BMI)

      Performed by Jim Head and the Del Rays

      Courtesy of GpsSongs.com

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    • Date de sortie
      • 17 mai 2019 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Las chicas de Manson
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Santa Clarita, Californie, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Epic Level Entertainment
      • Roxwell Films
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 40 685 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 20 684 $US
      • 12 mai 2019
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 98 240 $US
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      1 heure 50 minutes
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      • 2.35 : 1

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