Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueIGNORE HEROES tells the story of the original T.S.O.L. through interviews with the surviving members and those who were there with them in the madness of the early Californian punk rock scen... Tout lireIGNORE HEROES tells the story of the original T.S.O.L. through interviews with the surviving members and those who were there with them in the madness of the early Californian punk rock scene.IGNORE HEROES tells the story of the original T.S.O.L. through interviews with the surviving members and those who were there with them in the madness of the early Californian punk rock scene.
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First of all, let me state that I'm almost 60 years old and a big fan of the band, especially up to and including Beneath the Shadows. So I was really looking forward to watching this when I saw Jack post about it on his Instagram channel. But of all of the documentaries about early '80s punk and hardcore, this is by far my least favorite. I found his fake stand-up comedy routine (dressed in some goofy overcoat with a huge crucifix hanging around his neck) schtick annoying and pointless. I mean, a crowd of cops, detectives, priests, and nuns, all laughing hysterically and applauding almost your every word? WTF was that all about? Just weird. And quite often it was a distraction to the story he was telling, not at all complementing it in any way.
Also, why'd he have to go and treat Lisa Fancher that way? "Posh Boy with tits"? Seriously? It's exactly that kind of male, sexist attitude that was a big problem in the "boys' club" that was the HC scene in those days, and he seems to have learned nothing by continuing to use that kinda derogatory language, especially toward someone who did so much for the SoCal scene in those days. Completely uncalled for and unnecessary.
The stories of the band meeting, hanging out, getting into fights with cowboys and jocks, touring, and recording were for the most part pretty entertaining and enlightening. I appreciated his comments about musically progressing and refusing to be bogged down to one certain sound or style like 90% of the other bands of that ilk. But the story about the police pulling over their RV in Kansas was incomplete. It was probably one of the more interesting ones, too, with regard to the guns that Steve Phauter (aka Human T-Shirt) found in the cellar of some building and then sneaking out in the bass guitar case. He's talking about how there are all these cops (dozens of cars from how he explains it) stopping them and then it just suddenly stopped!? WTF happened? Did they get arrested? Did the cops find the guns? Drugs? Just weird to not tell the whole story.
In conclusion, I think it's worth watching. But I can't recommend this. Just too schticky, long, and weird. It could've also used more live footage and photos of the band from the early days and less Jack on that stage in front of that oddball "crowd."
Also, why'd he have to go and treat Lisa Fancher that way? "Posh Boy with tits"? Seriously? It's exactly that kind of male, sexist attitude that was a big problem in the "boys' club" that was the HC scene in those days, and he seems to have learned nothing by continuing to use that kinda derogatory language, especially toward someone who did so much for the SoCal scene in those days. Completely uncalled for and unnecessary.
The stories of the band meeting, hanging out, getting into fights with cowboys and jocks, touring, and recording were for the most part pretty entertaining and enlightening. I appreciated his comments about musically progressing and refusing to be bogged down to one certain sound or style like 90% of the other bands of that ilk. But the story about the police pulling over their RV in Kansas was incomplete. It was probably one of the more interesting ones, too, with regard to the guns that Steve Phauter (aka Human T-Shirt) found in the cellar of some building and then sneaking out in the bass guitar case. He's talking about how there are all these cops (dozens of cars from how he explains it) stopping them and then it just suddenly stopped!? WTF happened? Did they get arrested? Did the cops find the guns? Drugs? Just weird to not tell the whole story.
In conclusion, I think it's worth watching. But I can't recommend this. Just too schticky, long, and weird. It could've also used more live footage and photos of the band from the early days and less Jack on that stage in front of that oddball "crowd."
I loved TSOL growing up, but for the first 2 hours (film is 2.5 hours long total) this was just one over the hill dude on a stage basically reliving teenage mischief stories over and over. Got real tedious. Ron Emory was one of the greatest punk rock guitarists there ever was. I wanted to hear more about him and the music that made TSOL a favorite band of my youth, not rehashed and obviously exaggerated tales that were mildly amusing at best, 45 years ago. It isn't until Jack Grisham gets to the point of talking about the original band breaking up, that this documentary does a complete 180 and becomes one of the most tender and heartfelt movies I have seen in a long time. The death of original drummer Todd Barnes had a lot to do with it, but hearing Grisham, Emory, and Mike Roche talking about finally cleaning up their acts and moving on, is one of the most human things you will see in rock & roll. Grisham even takes responsibility and tries to make amends for the immature and self destructive behavior of his youth. By the end, you can't help but admire and respect him for that.
The planted audience dressed as cops and nuns, clapping and cheering at Grisham's every word, is very annoying, but overall, if you are a fan, this one is definitely worth watching.
8/10.
The planted audience dressed as cops and nuns, clapping and cheering at Grisham's every word, is very annoying, but overall, if you are a fan, this one is definitely worth watching.
8/10.
I was fortunate enough to see a few early cuts of the film.
Jack and company take you on the early history of the band, the successes, the trials and tribulations of being popular as such a young age ect. And then the downfalls of each original member and their struggles post original line up. Glad Jack Mike and Ron were able to come through the other side. And Todd, leaving a once in a lifetime body of musical work behind.
Not the happiest of stories, but bluntly honest.
Versus other docs, saying how great a band or person(s) are. Gets right to the points at band, wild youth, rejection, no adult supervision ect.
Rent or buy this diamond in the rough.
Jack and company take you on the early history of the band, the successes, the trials and tribulations of being popular as such a young age ect. And then the downfalls of each original member and their struggles post original line up. Glad Jack Mike and Ron were able to come through the other side. And Todd, leaving a once in a lifetime body of musical work behind.
Not the happiest of stories, but bluntly honest.
Versus other docs, saying how great a band or person(s) are. Gets right to the points at band, wild youth, rejection, no adult supervision ect.
Rent or buy this diamond in the rough.
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- T.S.O.L. - Ignore Heroes
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- 1 000 000 $US (estimé)
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By what name was Ignore Heroes - The True Sounds of Liberty (2023) officially released in Canada in English?
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