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11 settembre 1683

  • 2012
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  • 1h 54min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
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11 settembre 1683 (2012)
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Nell'estate del 1683, 300.000 guerrieri dell'Impero Ottomano iniziarono l'assedio di Vienna. La caduta della città avrebbe aperto la strada alla conquista dell'Europa. L'11 settembre fu la b... Leggi tuttoNell'estate del 1683, 300.000 guerrieri dell'Impero Ottomano iniziarono l'assedio di Vienna. La caduta della città avrebbe aperto la strada alla conquista dell'Europa. L'11 settembre fu la battaglia tra la cavalleria polacca e i turchi.Nell'estate del 1683, 300.000 guerrieri dell'Impero Ottomano iniziarono l'assedio di Vienna. La caduta della città avrebbe aperto la strada alla conquista dell'Europa. L'11 settembre fu la battaglia tra la cavalleria polacca e i turchi.

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    • Renzo Martinelli
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Valerio Manfredi
    • Renzo Martinelli
    • Alessandro Leone
  • Star
    • F. Murray Abraham
    • Andrea Iaia
    • Enrico Lo Verso
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    4,4/10
    2329
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    • Regia
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
    • Star
      • F. Murray Abraham
      • Andrea Iaia
      • Enrico Lo Verso
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    • 8Recensioni della critica
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    F. Murray Abraham
    F. Murray Abraham
    • Marco D'Aviano
    Andrea Iaia
    Andrea Iaia
    • Giovanni Cristofori
    Enrico Lo Verso
    Enrico Lo Verso
    • Karà Mustafà
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    Jerzy Skolimowski
    • King Jan III Sobieski
    Alicja Bachleda
    Alicja Bachleda
    • Duchess of Lorena
    • (as Alicja Bachleda Curus)
    Piotr Adamczyk
    Piotr Adamczyk
    • Leopoldo I
    Claire Bloom
    Claire Bloom
    • Rosa Cristofori
    Matteo Branciamore
    • Eugenio of Savoia
    Marius Chivu
    • Father Cosma
    Antonio Cupo
    Antonio Cupo
    • Duke of Lorena
    Giorgio Lupano
    • Count Stahremberg
    Federica Martinelli
    • Lena
    Gianni Musy
    • Carlo Cristofori
    Daniel Olbrychski
    Daniel Olbrychski
    • Katski
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
    Isabella de Ligne-La Trémoïlle
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    Yorgo Voyagis
    Yorgo Voyagis
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    Hal Yamanouchi
    Hal Yamanouchi
    • Murad Giray
    • Regia
      • Renzo Martinelli
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Valerio Manfredi
      • Renzo Martinelli
      • Alessandro Leone
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    Vincentiu

    honest

    not about politic or military victory but about force of faith. not about Vienna but about the Church. a film like a honest confession. not great, not impressive, not original. only a story about few people, a danger and the only solution for resist against it. result - not a bad movie but a different one. and it could be a surprise because not the low budget is its sin. the real cause - the chosen public. it is not a documentary and far to have the purpose to become a blockbuster. only to present a fruit of deep faith. that is all. so, it is not right to criticize it in serious manner. only see it without the ordinaries expectations for a historical film. and, maybe, it could represent an useful image about a fundamental episode from Europe past .
    7borismk-38942

    A decent film despite being understandably (but unfairly) disliked in modern times

    Most of the flack for this film probably comes from the fact that it portrays Christians as the good guys. People love to talk about the Crusades and condemn Christian history whilst events like the expansionist attacks of the Ottoman Empire are largely ignored.

    From an objective perspective the film could use some improvement, the CGI is fairly poor at points, some of the acting is over the top and I'm guessing the specific accuracy of events is probably questionable.

    That being said, I do feel the film accurately conveys the spirit of the times and the attitudes of the people who lived them. Abraham deserves a lot of credit for his performance of a largely forgotten (but highly significant) figure of European history, Marco D'Aviano. Of course it's unpopular nowadays to remember people whose faith largely led to positive outcomes, not just in defeating the enemy but also showing them mercy and compassion in victory.

    All in all, I wish there were more movies like it
    6CelluloidDog

    Epic falls below norm

    Really I would give a 5.5 since the ratings are 3.4 which is lower than it should. It's clear people want gory battles but this historical drama lacks that. Like some, I just saw it on netflix and that's where it belongs, quite an average film. Most epics are good films and few go wrong but this one falls short.

    Acting is average. F. Murray Abraham is overbearing as Marco D'Aviano. He just spends a bit too much time shouting. Did the real Marco D'Aviano shout? I doubt it since he was revered as a skill negotiator. Enrico Lo Verso plays Kara Mustafa which is fine since the real Mustafa was Albanian. A pleasant surprise appearance was Jerzy Skolimowski as Jan Sobieski, the King of Poland. He wrote the screenplay for Knife in the Water, a 1962 Polish gem by Roman Polanski. He also directed some unusual cult films like Moonlighting and Torrents of Spring. Personally I take a liking to his bizarre King, Queen, Knave and Adventures of Gerard (mostly due to Gina Lollobrigida and Claudia Cardinale). But yes, you get the point. Day of the Siege is an Italian-Polish production that falls into a sort of cult-like realm. A more religious cult-like realm.

    So complaints by modern standards: No blood, special effects do look like a war video game at times, the sky never seems to be real, dialogue is stiff and formal, acting is over the top or stiff except a few moments where Lo Verso and Skoliminowski shine. Direction is very average, nothing special and predictable. The low ratings may be due to expectations that this would be a gory film about the battle. Battle choreography falls short by today's standards. Polish nationals might be disappointed that King Jan Sobieski's appearances are limited. People are not going to cheer for a monk unless it's Sean Connery in The Name of the Rose. Some of the low ratings may be due to turn- off with a religious tone. Some don't like the references to September 11 and the concept of defending the faith. So some complain about historical inaccuracy.

    But actually, in researching this interesting siege of Vienna, the film could focus on King Jan Sobieski but Marco D'Aviano was a real key character. Perhaps he was made too zealous in the film with a weak script and direction - how could a monk win a battle? This part of the film was a bit fictional. But in reality Marco was a key diplomat who was a skilled negotiator in bringing the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire back together against the encroaching Ottomans. The real Marco had quite high standards and even several hundred captured Turks went to him to beg for mercy knowing his skills in helping others. But in terms of filmmaking, it's not that interesting and may involve deeper character development. Another person complained that Kara Mustafa prostrated before the Sultan and in Islam, one never prostrates unless before God. Actually that is incorrect, as it is traditional to prostrate before very high rank. And it is tradition that a failed Grand Vizier is executed by strangulation by a silk cloth. So some feel it makes the Ottomans look evil or inhuman. But on the other hand, the only family we see in the movie is Kara Mustafa's. Therefore he is a central figure who has a human touch.

    It is an average film but below average for an epic. It lacks the excitement that a bloodier epic might have, such as Braveheart or the Last Samurai. But it is far more accurate than people suggest especially compared to most epics.

    The strengths of the film was as some say, soundtrack was fairly strong, costume design was good. Just a bit too glorious and shallow. Like a nice piece of cake that looks good but a bit bland.
    4psainc

    Oops! they got the wrong staff...

    Not a complete review, although I think the film was modestly entertaining, it's hard to do a sweeping epic style film on a very modest budget of only $12 MM.

    So, my offering is a bit of trivia, an "oops" in the film. About 2/3 through or thereabouts, we see F. Murray Abraham carrying/holding a papal-like silver staff. It has a slightly down-turned cross, with a crucifix of a very thin and stretched out Jesus attached.

    The problem, although a beautiful and imaginative design, is that that particular staff was designed by Lello Scorzelli, from Naples Italy, in 1965—just about 300 years later than the time of the historical period!

    The Scorzelli Staff has been carried by the last 3 Popes, among other ferula, not counting the other staffs. I just think they chose it for the beauty, but I recognized it immediately, did any of you?
    random-70778

    Virtually all the critic on the history y a handful of Turkish reviewers here is wrong

    For example reviewer "awab_avril25" writes on July 2013 "Let me give you a few scenes as examples of terrible fictitious history of this film. First, you absolutely can not prostrate to any man or thing on earth except for God." Uhm the written documents on the Ottoman court by visiting Christians, visiting Arab and Iranian Muslims, and Ottoman Turks themselves describe exactly that: Visitors and Ottoman officials, right up to Ambassadors from Muslim and Christian countries, and ottoman subjects up the Ottoman grand Vizers themselves bowing, genuflection and prostrating themselves before the Sultan. It is a stone cold fact attested to in scores of written documents. This film has lots of imperfections, but the portrayal of the core issue is hardly so. The fact is the Ottoman Muslim brutal invasion and occupation of a large part of Christian Europe , virtually the entire Balkans, was genocidal, rapacious and pervasively violent as it had been when they invaded Anatolia itself.

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      The siege is presented as a battle between Catholic Christianity and Turkish Islam. In the real war there were Protestant, Eastern Orthodox and Muslim states and mercenaries (including a small number of Turks) supporting the Holy League and Christian states supporting the Turks. The Principality of Wallachia, an Orthodox Christian vassal state of the Ottoman Empire, secretly sabotaged the Turkish siege and was providing intelligence to Austria.
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      Marco D'Aviano: [Speaking to the council] Your Majesties, Excellencies, I am only a poor monk. I know nothing of strategies or plans of attack. But I do know that Vienna represents the survival of Christianity. I know that if you have faith, you will win. If you remain united, you will win. So if the King of Poland says he knows how to win this battle, let him explain it to us.

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    • Data di uscita
      • 11 aprile 2013 (Italia)
    • Paesi di origine
      • Italia
      • Polonia
    • Sito ufficiale
      • Official site (Japan)
    • Lingua
      • Inglese
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      • The Day of the Siege: September Eleven 1683
    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Royal Castle, Old Town, Sródmiescie, Varsavia, Voivodato della Masovia, Polonia
    • Aziende produttrici
      • Martinelli Film Company International
      • Agresywna Banda
      • RAI Radiotelevisione Italiana
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      • 12.000.000 € (previsto)
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      • 1h 54min(114 min)
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