The Jackie Gleason Show

I was in the vocal group through the entire run, some variety and all Honeymooners shows. The only ones rerun were the first season in which they win a trip around the world. Twentieth Century Fox paid the rerun checks on those. The Poor Soul's Christmas was rerun all over the place. The word I have is that ownership of the rest of the tapes (we did, I think, something like 49 shows all together) cannot be proved, and so none of those shows can ever be shown. I'd give a great deal to experience them again. To my knowledge, only one or two of the orchestra are still living--my husband was lead trumpet. Most of the singers and dancers are still around. Marilyn Taylor was NOT around these shows. She and Jackie got together again later.

FOLLOWING HIS HIGHLY successful return to network television's weekly grind, it was time for a course correction. The new program had been given the handle of JACKIE GLEASON'S American SCENE MAGAZINE and attempted to sort of update the focus of the comedy being produced. They also wanted to "modernize" the production with short, attention span friendly "blackout" type of skits.

BY THE END of the fourth season, that which had been considered "fresh" and "innovative" was now thought to be commonplace. So, what to do in order to fix things? Perhaps the thought crossed someone's mind that it was time to return to the well once again; but this time it would be to the old and familiar waters of THE HONEYMOONERS.

YES IT WAS true, the Gleason show was returning to Delancy Street and to the tenements of the Kramdens and the Nortons. It was a case of the old becoming fresh and "new" because of an extended absence. (Remember Schultz, "Absence makes the heart fonder!") SO WITH THIS news, the new segments were about to undergo some cast changes. Sheila Mac Rae would be Alice and Jane Kean would take over as Trixie. But without a doubt, no one could envision anyone else in the part of Ed Norton but Art Carney. We were right as it was indeed a reunion of what many believe to be the "Laurel & Hardy of TV" were now being reunited.

OTHER THAN THE live television aspect of the original incarnation of THE HINEYMOONERS, there were several items that could only be viewed as being updates. In addition to the aforementioned application of videotape, the series was now to be a musical. Original songs and production numbers would be the order of the day.

A PREVIOSLY USED IDEA that had both the Norton and Kramden families sharing a winning ticket in a contest and traveling away from their blue collar (Proletariat) existence and seeing Planet Earth from the decks of an Ocean Liner. They would also be taping the shows in beautiful color.

SOME GREAT MAN once said that "You can't go home!" But it would appear that THE HONEYMOONERS succeeded in doing it.

If one would likes to see how a husband should treat his wife and how his wife reacts to his ways, this is the show, no matter how bad this turn out, they always fix it at the end on the day. I hope we can have more of there shows aired to let us know how in a funny way to deal with regular lives problems we face today with couples. I know that cleaning is a very hard work. This reminds me on the Honeymooner (1966-1970), they had an episode on the wives at work, Ralph Kramden (Jackie Gleason) told his wife that she did not work and that he was the bread maker in the house. Alice Kramden (Sheila MacRae) said, "A women's work is never done from sun up to sun down" and that is so true. While the husband was working outside she did the work at home and when he got home she still worked on taking care of him. Thank You!

It's the color honeymooners as the good life channel calls them and thank you good life, for bringing them back.

If it looks like the great one is resting on his laurels, so be it. He deserves it. Where the '50s version of the honeymooners was hysterical and gritty, the late '60s version emphasizes Miami (ad nausea - it still tickles me tho since i grew up in ft. Lauderdale in the '60s-'70s.), color, a large budget and awesome musical numbers. The comedy is still funny in fact even sidesplitting from time to time, but in this version, it seems to be all about CHARM as opposed to innovative comedy. Sure, Gleason and Carney are a TEAM and a delightful team, like going over to a favorite uncle at thanksgiving. It's a team that has paid their dues and now are reaping the rewards and just relaxing and having fun. THere's nothing wrong with that. IT's just not as funny and innovative as these episode are remakes of the '50s episodes which was where the innovation was.

THe composers of the songs can stand proud of their accomplishment at writing a damn fine musical a week (or every other maybe?) and their creations can stand along side anything on Broadway at the time or even now. Perhaps there can be a musical review on stage featuring these great songs. I especially love the song from the Italy episode which Sheila mccrae sings with a Italian boy. what a beautiful song.

Mccrae and Jane Kean are always criticized for not being the beloved Audrey Meadows (or Pert Kelton for that matter. I saw one extremely rare Dumont show where she played Alice. she was truly frightening.) and Joyce Randolph. But Sheila and Jane are top notch singers and I love the hear them belt out Alice's and Trixie's songs. It's funny because I can't picture Sheila and Jane in the old '50s show just like i can't picture Audrey and Joyce in the '60s show. Gleason and Carney aren't singers at all, but they can sure put over a great song nonetheless. There are no comparisons.

THe only thing i find regrettable is that good life TV is only showing honeymooner episodes and there are only 40 of these hour long color musicals. I wish they would show the other non-honeymooners episodes. And now that I live in a city where I cant get good life TV, I wish someone would come out with an authorized DVD of four complete seasons of the Jackie Gleason show from Miami.

But thank you good life TV for bringing back great Saturday night TV and a heck of a lot of charm and class.

I grew up watching the "classic 39" reruns and I actually remember watching Gleason's late 60's color variety show at original airing during the same period. I thought for sure that once I saw these color episodes again, it would be a disaster. I remember enjoying them, but I also know that in many cases you "can't go home again". Well, forget that cliché' since these episodes hold up extremely well! Yeah, I know Ralph and Ed are a bit older. Yeah, I know the real "Alice" is no longer around. But Gleason and Carney's portrayal of Ralph & Ed have lost VERY little, and in some scenes they seem even sharper than the 50's! Maybe I'll whistle a different tune if and when they issue the later seasons eventually, but as far as I'm concerned, you can't lose investing in this fine and funny first season of "newer" Honeymooners! A-