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Flesh and Blood

  • Episódio foi ao ar 29 de nov. de 2000
  • TV-PG
  • 1 h 25 min
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Ryan Bollman in Jornada nas Estrelas: Voyager (1995)
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaFree from their pursuers, the leader of the holograms decides to continue the crusade against the organics in order to liberate all holograms, everywhere. The Doctor finally realises what he... Ler tudoFree from their pursuers, the leader of the holograms decides to continue the crusade against the organics in order to liberate all holograms, everywhere. The Doctor finally realises what he had done and comes up with a plan to redeem himself.Free from their pursuers, the leader of the holograms decides to continue the crusade against the organics in order to liberate all holograms, everywhere. The Doctor finally realises what he had done and comes up with a plan to redeem himself.

  • Direção
    • David Livingston
    • Michael Vejar
  • Roteiristas
    • Gene Roddenberry
    • Bryan Fuller
    • Jack Monaco
  • Estrelas
    • Kate Mulgrew
    • Robert Beltran
    • Roxann Dawson
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    7,6/10
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    • Direção
      • David Livingston
      • Michael Vejar
    • Roteiristas
      • Gene Roddenberry
      • Bryan Fuller
      • Jack Monaco
    • Estrelas
      • Kate Mulgrew
      • Robert Beltran
      • Roxann Dawson
    • 16Avaliações de usuários
    • 6Avaliações da crítica
  • Veja as informações de produção no IMDbPro
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    Kate Mulgrew
    Kate Mulgrew
    • Capt. Kathryn Janeway
    Robert Beltran
    Robert Beltran
    • Cmdr. Chakotay
    Roxann Dawson
    Roxann Dawson
    • Lt. B'Elanna Torres
    Robert Duncan McNeill
    Robert Duncan McNeill
    • Lt. Tom Paris
    Ethan Phillips
    Ethan Phillips
    • Neelix
    Robert Picardo
    Robert Picardo
    • The Doctor
    Tim Russ
    Tim Russ
    • Lt. Tuvok
    Jeri Ryan
    Jeri Ryan
    • Seven of Nine
    Garrett Wang
    Garrett Wang
    • Ensign Harry Kim
    Jeff Yagher
    Jeff Yagher
    • Iden
    Ryan Bollman
    Ryan Bollman
    • Donik
    Michael Wiseman
    Michael Wiseman
    • Beta-Hirogen
    Cindy Katz
    Cindy Katz
    • Kejal
    Spencer Garrett
    Spencer Garrett
    • Weiss
    Vaughn Armstrong
    Vaughn Armstrong
    • Alpha-Hirogen
    Paul Eckstein
    • Alpha-Hirogen
    Todd Jeffries
    Todd Jeffries
    • Hirogen #1
    Chad Halyard
    • Hirogen #2
    • Direção
      • David Livingston
      • Michael Vejar
    • Roteiristas
      • Gene Roddenberry
      • Bryan Fuller
      • Jack Monaco
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    8planktonrules

    Never trust Captain Crazy-pants!

    Doctor makes 'mistake' in trusting them Hirogens are annoying and call for reinforcements

    In the first part of this two-parter, the Hirogens were idiots and they decided to 'improve' the holo emitters that Janeway gave them last season. She had HOPED that giving them holoemitters would encourage them to use their energy killing holo creatures and not real living ones. Unfortunately, the Hirogens decided to 'improve' the experience by making their opponents very formidable. The problem is that they now are so powerful that they're wiping out the Hirogen! So Janeway decides it's time to get rid of these holo characters once and for all. When the show ends, however, the Doctor feels sorry for these kindred spirits and joins them as the show ends!

    Here in episode two, the Doctor slowly progresses from admiring these renegade holograms to being totally horrified by them. Unfortanately, the Doctor slowly learns that their leader is completely insane and has god-like feelings of grandeur. But how can he and the holo's hostage B'Elanna possibly stop these nut-case holograms?!

    This is pretty exciting stuff and I liked seeing the reasonable holographic leader revealing himself to actually be Captain Crazy- pants! Well worth seeing--especially because the Doctor REALLY screws up!!
    7Flux-Compensator

    Even Bajoran holograms are ultimately just religious fanatics

    A double episode that once again addresses the question of whether and when a holographic projection becomes an independent and sentient being.

    However, if you think about this question and what Star Trek does with it in the Voyager series for too long, then the house of cards collapses pretty quickly. When the group of escaped holograms on a liberation campaign free each hologram from the chains of their slave masters (from their perspective), as a viewer you have to ask yourself the question: Wouldn't every hologram that was created in some simulation on the holodeck also have to be freed? Leonardo Da Vinci, Chaotica and his henchmen, Lord Burleigh and his children, Michael Sullivan and all the residents of Fair Haven, all the guests and waiters at Neelix's Paxau Resort and all the Klingons from Torres' combat simulations as well as T'Pel, Tuvok's wife and his Pon Farr "treatment". All of these are AI-controlled photonic beings, which also do not just follow predetermined programming.

    However, this question is not really asked or answered in the series. Janeway still treats the doctor like a piece of software, a program. The deep philosophical questions that surrounded commander Data in TNG are missing from the series. And Janeway, unlike Picard, is clearly not an advocate for artificial life forms.

    Furthermore, one also has to ask what Starfleet or any other species would do with holograms that act so autonomously and can even be deadly to organics. Each ship would essentially be packed with holo emitters to unleash holographic soldiers on the attackers in the event of a boarding attack. In addition, most jobs would most likely be done by holograms in general. Who needs bartenders, police officers, teachers, musicians, street cleaners, etc. Or who needs all the engineers and scientists on board spaceships when holograms could do the job just as well - you just have to set up holo emitters.

    Unfortunately, the episode ends up getting lost in the megalomania of a religiously motivated Bajoran fanatic and thus ultimately loses its deeper meaning. In the end it's all about the fact that holograms are no better than their creators and that the doctor has once again naively backed the wrong horse.

    In addition: With all the accidents with and on Voyager's holodeck, it was foreseeable that this technology would also lead to a catastrophe for the Hirogen. Janeway also seems quite surprised that the Hirogen are now hunting holograms in artificially created worlds. Wasn't that the original plan? To dissuade them from hunting real creatures? And didn't Janeway have reservations about sharing technology in general at the start of the series? Because this technology would upset the balance of power in the delta quadrant? But after seven years, they have laid down quite a trail of Starfleet technology in the Delta quadrant.
    8ragingrei

    Somehow managed to make a fun Hirogen episode

    I don't know if it's acting, but the tense conversation at the end made this episode for me.

    Settling differences responsibly is the theme that makes Star Trek more pertinent in 2021 than ever.
    7snoozejonc

    Exciting first part with familiar themes

    Voyager answers a distress call from a Hirogen training facility and discovers that the hunters have been resisted by their holographic prey.

    The theme of machines as sentient beings is subject that Star Trek may have done to death but this one approaches it with plenty of excitement and adrenalin. It has a strong plot and a typically excellent performance by Robert Picardo as The Doctor torn between Voyager and his holographic 'people'.

    When I watch episodes involving the above theme I repeatedly tell myself the concepts are silly because they are machines not a life-forms, then ask myself why the writers insist on making such a song and dance out of characters like The Doctor and Commander Data from TNG. In the same breath I also worry about them, want to see they are okay and hope they end up happy. So perhaps that says all that needs to be said about that.

    The action sequences are exciting and suspenseful whilst the scenes of internal conflict are pretty tense.

    Part 1 ends with you wanting to know what happens next, so it does its job well.
    7snoozejonc

    Strong conclusion

    The Doctor and B'Elanna go along with the holograms before Iden shows his true intentions.

    Things get really interesting when Iden starts to show signs of the same narcissistic tendencies like his organic masters. The Doctor and B'Elanna are surprised, but I wouldn't mind betting that most idealistic, revolutionary leaders display similar characteristics at some point.

    Once again we see the value of the Prime Directive as all of this was caused by Voyager sharing technology with an alien species.

    Janeway's attitude towards holograms is not exactly progressive throughout the entire series but when going through the old headmistress "I'm not angry, just disappointed" routine with The Doctor she concedes that he is as fallible as those made from Flesh and Blood.

    Most of the performances are good, particularly Robert Picardo and Roxann Dawson.

    This is a strong conclusion to the story with the excitement continuing along the same lines as Part 1.

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    • Curiosidades
      The holographic generator used by Iden and the other escaped holograms is a re-use of the artificial intelligence prop from the episode Think Tank (1999).
    • Erros de gravação
      Captain Janeway gave the Hirogen holographic technology during the fourth season story "The Killing Game." In the three years since then, however, Voyager has traveled over 30,000 light years towards the Alpha Quadrant due to unique and exceptional circumstances that normally would have taken the ship decades by itself (a stolen Borg transwarp coil, slipstream technology, subspace corridors, etc). How then are the Hirogen with the holo tech found in this region of space?
    • Citações

      [Iden has asked the Doctor to treat the "wounded" holograms]

      The Doctor: I'm a doctor, not an engineer. You've abducted the wrong man!

    • Conexões
      Referenced in After Trek: Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum (2017)
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      Written by Jerry Goldsmith

      Performed by Jay Chattaway

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    • Data de lançamento
      • 29 de novembro de 2000 (Estados Unidos da América)
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      • Estados Unidos da América
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      • Inglês
      • Klingon
    • Locações de filme
      • Jungle Set, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, Califórnia, EUA
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      • Paramount Network Television
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      • 1 h 25 min(85 min)
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