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Edit after Ep 5 (final): The series got better for me in episodes 4 and 5, and there are twists, with the two characters more dimensional. Episode 5 is a tour de force and I'm sad it's over. JC is more relatable, although perhaps her coldness in the early episodes was part of her conflict and unhappiness. There is a distinct and searing pain of being the one who leaves, but is rarely recognized in society or on film, but if it's here, it's just too subtle. I also haven't been re-watching the 1973 series along with this, which may have helped. I have to say that JC and Isaac do fantastic sex scenes. Not just erotic, but warmly emotional, very real, not p*rn. I'm not a big fan of requisite sex scenes (HBO is famous for them, esp those that don't further the plot) but these add to the drama, although they aren't necessary to it. I still stand by my previous review, below, esp re Liv Ullman, but glad this series improved as it went, rather than the other way around. I am raising my rating from a 7 (6.5) to an 8 (7.5), however.
Original review after Ep 3: I've been re-watching the original along with the new, and this is based on the first 3 HBO episodes. What can you say about Liv Ullman (an It Girl of her time)? She was spectacular in the original (and in so many other things; just complete mastery of her craft), as was her co-star. Oscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain are competent here (perhaps Isaac more so) as JC lacks the subtlety and physical mastery of Ullman. JC relies on her time worn faces and pregnant pauses while Ullman relies on...acting (with no botox).
Perhaps a comparison to the 1973 Swedish series is a bit unfair, but inevitable. It's an iconic series, by an iconic director and star, with the same plot (if gender switched and modernized), so a comparison IS fair. Poor JC, though, to be compared to one of the best actors of all time! JC Mira is even more cold than usual here and not a likeable character in any way. It's too bad Isaac is the amazing good guy and she is the villain. The original was more even, more believable, as they both were to blame for their marital problems. Ullman's Mira comes off a bit better, as the 'victim', but Isaac is downright holy in the new version. Uncomfortable to say the least.
It's also hard to really understand this without the context of 1973. Women's Lib was going full steam, wives were still often trapped in the roles of the 1950s. It was the Me Decade and people were suddenly expecting more. More romance, more sex, more happiness for me, me, me. And that is all lost here, even with the surface modernizing.
I was married when this came out, and we suffered from the same illness, and I have again, yet I couldn't really grab onto the remake or relate to it. Perhaps because JC's character and lines are so extreme and inexplicable. Not very real compared to what I went through (I played the JC role). But the original was very easy to get my head around and relate to. The current writers didn't keep the part of the script they should have and went off the rails a bit with her part. I've rarely been so unable to relate to a character.
I would have given this a 6.5, if possible, and that may be generous, but you don't see this kind of TV anymore. I wish there would be more shows with deep character development with time to explore motifs. And you must engage your brain. It's brave, it's slow, and if you are a teen or young adult, you won't get it and be bored out of your mind. Unless you've been married a while, at least. And it's not much fun, but like a car wreck, you have to watch.
Edit re multiracial couples: As always, I am dismayed to see people complaining about this. What century is this? How clueless of people to complain about non-white characters ("modernizing", "woke") while, in many cases, not even realizing they are racist, who shrink in horror at the KKK and other groups, while speaking the very party lines of said organizations.
Original review after Ep 3: I've been re-watching the original along with the new, and this is based on the first 3 HBO episodes. What can you say about Liv Ullman (an It Girl of her time)? She was spectacular in the original (and in so many other things; just complete mastery of her craft), as was her co-star. Oscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain are competent here (perhaps Isaac more so) as JC lacks the subtlety and physical mastery of Ullman. JC relies on her time worn faces and pregnant pauses while Ullman relies on...acting (with no botox).
Perhaps a comparison to the 1973 Swedish series is a bit unfair, but inevitable. It's an iconic series, by an iconic director and star, with the same plot (if gender switched and modernized), so a comparison IS fair. Poor JC, though, to be compared to one of the best actors of all time! JC Mira is even more cold than usual here and not a likeable character in any way. It's too bad Isaac is the amazing good guy and she is the villain. The original was more even, more believable, as they both were to blame for their marital problems. Ullman's Mira comes off a bit better, as the 'victim', but Isaac is downright holy in the new version. Uncomfortable to say the least.
It's also hard to really understand this without the context of 1973. Women's Lib was going full steam, wives were still often trapped in the roles of the 1950s. It was the Me Decade and people were suddenly expecting more. More romance, more sex, more happiness for me, me, me. And that is all lost here, even with the surface modernizing.
I was married when this came out, and we suffered from the same illness, and I have again, yet I couldn't really grab onto the remake or relate to it. Perhaps because JC's character and lines are so extreme and inexplicable. Not very real compared to what I went through (I played the JC role). But the original was very easy to get my head around and relate to. The current writers didn't keep the part of the script they should have and went off the rails a bit with her part. I've rarely been so unable to relate to a character.
I would have given this a 6.5, if possible, and that may be generous, but you don't see this kind of TV anymore. I wish there would be more shows with deep character development with time to explore motifs. And you must engage your brain. It's brave, it's slow, and if you are a teen or young adult, you won't get it and be bored out of your mind. Unless you've been married a while, at least. And it's not much fun, but like a car wreck, you have to watch.
Edit re multiracial couples: As always, I am dismayed to see people complaining about this. What century is this? How clueless of people to complain about non-white characters ("modernizing", "woke") while, in many cases, not even realizing they are racist, who shrink in horror at the KKK and other groups, while speaking the very party lines of said organizations.
This is what great acting, writing and directing are all about. One of the greatest pieces of acting I have ever seen in my entire life. If these two don't win an Emmy for Best Actress and Actor, then there is no justice in this world. A must see program.
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Both Jessica and Oscar are so eye opening so amazing making these 2 characters so alive so genuine so far this is a definitely amazing show GOOD JOB HBO!!!
Having experienced a divorce under some similar circumstances, I find this to be extremely accurate in its writing, and the performances are as good as any I've ever seen. Mr. Isaac and Ms. Chastain are applying their craft as well as it can possibly be applied. We are witnessing artists creating a masterpiece. Thanks to all involved in this production for putting it on for us. I'll be truly sorry to see this end, though I can imagine the performers had nothing left to give once it did.
Not fully sure yet what to think but it's definitely not a 3 like someone like else reviewed it. Oscar Isaac is easily one of my favorite actors so that already got me interested before release he's perfect for a drama series like this! The writing and acting seems smooth; might not get enough appreciation but I think it's got a glorious start that deserves a chance. HBO hardly ever has a bad series in my opinion and impossible for them to be over the top unless it was deliberate like a comedy regardless I love the pilot!
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- CuriosidadesOscar Isaac and Jessica Chastain both graduated from the same Julliard class and have been friends for over 20 years.
- ConexõesFeatured in 74º Primetime Emmy Awards (2022)
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