MoviePass, MovieCrash

MoviePass continues to be an object of fascination. Even though I was never a customer or investor, I found this doc engrossing.

It adds some new info to the saga I never realized, namely that the two founders were black and the problem started when they had to find investors to keep their business going. White investors and white guys to run the company (and claim they founded it). Turns out they were incompetent and/or stock manipulators, oops.

However, there's more to the story than this. What was the business model of the original founders? Was that ever viable? They racked up a mere 20,000 subscribers in 10 years because they were charging a reasonable price for an unlimited movie pass: $50. That's not viable, and dropping it off a cliff to $10 sure wasn't but was there ever a price point where this would have worked?

I also recall that MoviePass did have some dealings with the theater chains to get them on board with MoviePass as marketing or data collection. The upshot was, the theater chains stole the idea and made their own passes. This is never mentioned at all. If the theater chains could have stolen the idea at any time and cut MoviePass out, then there was never a viable business in the first place, so this is a huge omission.

Now that MoviePass is back in the hands of the original founder (not a spoiler; that was reported in the business press), he has the chance to show this idea can work. The site shows some reasonably priced plans like $10 for 3 movies (as long as you're not in NYC or SoCal, where the price is double!!!) so it does offer some discount over regular pricing but hardly enough to get anyone's pulse up.

The irony is that now theaters are in serious trouble, with too few big hit movies coming out and theaters going empty. Maybe now the theater chains won't snub MoviePass, if it became a way to discount tickets in theaters that are going to sit empty anyway.

Subject matter: 10; documentary: 6, averages out to an 8.

I had a membership to moviepass in 2017? I think. I remember thinking it was the greatest thing. I belonged to it for like 3 months and only saw 1 or 2 movies. They got my money! Lol

This ran a little long. It was over an hour and a half and could've been shortened to an hour and still kept the important details in it. Most documentaries are like that though.

I had to roll my eyes when they discussed the two founding members being black and that that was a reason for them being fired. I understand having that thrown in because this was made during the early 2020's and that's when race and gender was all anyone talked about. It wasn't necessary for the overall message of the documentary.

...in how outsiders can wreck a company.

Interesting documentary of how MoviePass came about, was taken over, and then driven into bankruptcy.

Synopsis: a major investor in the start-up created by two African-American entrepreneurs brings in two outsiders, one a liar who falsely claims to have invented Netflix, another a shady financier from Wall Street. Soon these creeps oust the black founders and go down a path of wild spending and self promotion with the business news outlets and Hollywood partying and conning new investors and bankrupt the company. Laws were broken.

Though the particulars are different and usually it is done legally this is a great example of hedge funds or private equity firms or mega corporations buying companies, then looting and or mismanaging them. These then end in bankruptcy or selling the dimished concerns at a great loss.

Don't believe me? Google any of the following: Friendly's restaurants, DirectTV, Time Warner, GeoCities, ManorCare nursing homes, Great Western wines, or Samsonite. This is just a tiny fraction of all the examples out there.

So as I said, business school students should be made aware of this dark side of American Capitalism. Not to battle this uniquely American economic system, but perhaps to improve it.

I was just about to sign up for MoviePass in 2018 when it started to have "issues" and started changing its terms and conditions. And, then there were stories about regular users getting 'throttled' so they couldn't access the service.

Muta 'Ali's HBO Documentary takes a pretty standard approach with talking heads, clips etc.. What it does have in its favor is access to several of the key players in the saga including the two original founders, Stacy Spikes and Hamet Watt, and the man who aced them out of their own company, Mitch Lowe. Things came all crashing down when Lowe brought in Ted Farnsworth (he did not co-operate in this film).

While there is no doubt that having so many principals on the record (including investors, former employees and customers), it does seem as if Ali didn't press them enough. It takes almost 40 minutes for the filmmakers to clearly state the obvious flaw in the MoviePass model - how can you give away more in services (movie tickets) than you take in in subscriptions - and still make a profit? The other big ominous cloud in the story is the mysterious investment firm Hudson Bay. That angle,too, is pressed hard enough.

The documentary does the basics here, but little more. Co-founder Spikes bought the company back from bankruptcy and it's still hanging around today, but nowhere never the level it had at it's peak. The issue remains the same - large profits seem nearly impossible to attain unless either: A. A bunch of your subscribers DON'T use your service. Or, B. The movie theater chains give MoviePass discounted tickets (of course, the chains' decided to just start their own subscriber services).

Classic before-and-after tale of a company's glory days under the founders before corporate egos come in and drive it into the ground. MoviePass, MovieCrash concerns the ill-fated MP subscription service that allowed members to attend multiple screenings for a flat monthly fee. Kind of like the Netflix formula, but for actual theatergoers.

In this case glory days is relative since the business model was not sustainable to begin with. The founders seem indifferent to having lost 'only' a few $100K per month when compared to the $30Mil burn rate of their hedge fund-backed successors, but to me that almost misses the point. Yes one was embarrassing while the other was downright absurd, but neither was poised for success. After all, the concept of all-you-can-eat should be used as a temporary bridge rather than a long-term plan, and any company whose survival relies on users NOT taking advantage of why they signed up is doomed no matter who's at the helm- be it the charming founders, the greedy businessmen or any of their acolytes. In hindsight the blame game appears even more trivial given that MoviePass went bankrupt in January 2020; would the pandemic not have wiped them out regardless?

I would have been ok had the filmmakers left it there, but they do favor one side over the other (you can guess which one) and romanticize their journey as they prepare for a re-launch today. So it could be worth your time to see how persuasively that argument is made. Otherwise I'd just lump MoviePass in with all the other victims of streaming (there've been too many) and this film as one long commercial for what they plan to do next. I do hope they make it because I still treasure going out to the movies, but I doubt I'd go for this one.