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Amigos, familiares e a própria Sally McNeil relembram o chocante assassinato de um fisiculturista, que para piorar foi cometido em um dos dias mais românticos do ano.Amigos, familiares e a própria Sally McNeil relembram o chocante assassinato de um fisiculturista, que para piorar foi cometido em um dos dias mais românticos do ano.Amigos, familiares e a própria Sally McNeil relembram o chocante assassinato de um fisiculturista, que para piorar foi cometido em um dos dias mais românticos do ano.
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This is one of those stories that makes one feel hopeless about humankind. A couple of self-involved, lusty individuals stick together for several years of unhappy relationship. Eventually, even though they both wanted out, neither left until the bitter end.
Ray and Sally were two bodybuilders so wrapped up with their "career" that they kind of forgot about her two children destined to follow in their footpath of broken families and violent upbringing.
Sally gets the lion's share of the documentary and gives her own - biased - version of the story. Even if Ray was violent towards her, she did not leave. Especially her statement about being ready to move back with her parents rings false. She stated that "It was too late" without explaining why. What actually stopped her? Certainly not Ray, who was ready to move on with his lover...
Anyway, in true Netflix spirit, they try to turn Sally into a sort of saint martyr, and they manage because the audience seems not to have noticed the extremely relevant part of her reloading the shotgun to put another round into Ray, who was lying on the floor dying. That was what made her spend 25 years in prison - like it or not, reloading and shooting somebody on the ground rules out self-defense.
However, this is a depressing story were all the parties involved are equally repulsive and pathetic, a bunch of people totally unable to exercise any form of self-control or restrain and capable only to follow their instincts in a savage and brutal way.
Ray and Sally were two bodybuilders so wrapped up with their "career" that they kind of forgot about her two children destined to follow in their footpath of broken families and violent upbringing.
Sally gets the lion's share of the documentary and gives her own - biased - version of the story. Even if Ray was violent towards her, she did not leave. Especially her statement about being ready to move back with her parents rings false. She stated that "It was too late" without explaining why. What actually stopped her? Certainly not Ray, who was ready to move on with his lover...
Anyway, in true Netflix spirit, they try to turn Sally into a sort of saint martyr, and they manage because the audience seems not to have noticed the extremely relevant part of her reloading the shotgun to put another round into Ray, who was lying on the floor dying. That was what made her spend 25 years in prison - like it or not, reloading and shooting somebody on the ground rules out self-defense.
However, this is a depressing story were all the parties involved are equally repulsive and pathetic, a bunch of people totally unable to exercise any form of self-control or restrain and capable only to follow their instincts in a savage and brutal way.
I walked into this series not sure what to expect. So many other true crime docs recently have been so bad. Over dramatized. Slow. Etc. But I'm glad I took the chance with this one. The pacing was great. The interviews were not over sentualized. The doc maker definitely had an opinion and made it clear. I think people will walk away thinking this is about her being innocent. I disagree. Sally made some bad decisions, but I have a lot of empathy for her situation. I think the film is about how women are driven to a point of breaking from a lifetime of abuse. Nobody would talk about it. Excuses were made. The man's side is automatically taken. The BS just swept under the rug. Thru continued recognition that domestic abuse is real and that we should not turn a blind eye to it, hopefully more people can get out of the toxic relationship earlier before another life or lives are destroyed. On a side note. I found the exploration into the subculture of body building and muscle worshipping very interesting.
Great docuseries. It is nice and short. I had not heard this story and didn't know anything about it and was surprised. I truly feel for her and her children. Steroids are horrible. Please do not take roads. They really mess with your mind. There are also many stories out there of wrestlers that have killed due to too many steriods in their system. It's really not worth it. Life is too short for that. I would love to know more about Sally say in about 10 years to see how she is doing. I also hope her son gets the help he needs. He seems like a nice person who is hurting so much. I wish the best for l of them.
I like Sally, and I identify with her a little bit. I have always been an emotional passionate woman who could get a little out of hand sometimes. But having dated some really big guys myself, who were in The bodybuilding world, I can tell you there's no way she could have defended herself with anything but a weapon that could put some distance between her and her abuser, and that means a gun. When a bodybuilding man is on roids it's much different then for a female, especially one who is only taking one. We now know that men on steroids can really become out of control animals. Who's to say what was happening in their home that day but the kids should have been taken more seriously and they told the cops that the dad had beat their mother. I feel that Sally is the unfortunate victim of a time when squeaky Wheels were screaming for women to be held responsible for being abusers. I myself was in the unfortunate position of being arrested once when I slapped a man who had pulled my hair and thrown me on the ground in front of witnesses. I was arrested for being the abuser and he was not arrested. The cops were under extreme pressure to get women in handcuffs who were doing any sort of physical action or reaction. Add to that the fact that Ray was, for all intents and purposes, a celebrity, and we can see that Sally was railroaded. She has a good case to get her conviction overturned because of the words of her own lawyer in this documentary. Even though she's already done her time, she should pursue this. He even admits he didn't want her to get on the stand and yet she didn't know that he felt that way. That is some BS representation . I don't know where Ray was when she took that second shot, but I believed her when she said that he was still talking and trying to get back up. If he were on the ground trying to get back up when she took that second shot then the blood spatter would have gone up into the lamp just like she said. She had a crap lawyer during the time when the cops were trying to get handcuffs on women. I thought the documentary was interesting and not so long that you might feel you want to get your time back. But there wasn't really much about the trial itself so I think the title is misrepresenting what's actually here. But as someone else said, if it was titled two Marines abuse each other and one gets killed nobody would watch it. I was really struck by the son who said he hated Ray. It takes some serious abuse for a child to hate a caretaker. There's probably some other things they're not telling us here. One of the reviews here that says something about taking on the da I agreed with except for the part where they said how fraudulent the US justice system is. Our system in the US is actually the most coveted system in the world, it gives both criminals and victims the most fair outcome based on a jury of their peers. There is no other country in the world where you could kill another person and actually have the potential to walk out a free person. So while I agree that there are many discrepancies in our system like Johnny Depp getting away with abusing Amber Heard and her being railroaded by the media, there is no other country I would rather live in if I were accused of a crime or the victim of a crime. And almost every other country victims seldom get any form of compensation for medical expenses or punitive damages or any such thing. People can look down on lawyers and complain about the system but I would love to see them go live in another country and have any sort of crime happen to them or be accused of a crime and then they'll be lamenting that they wish they were back in the US.
This is a documentary about how the District Attorney will play the system to defeat anyone they come up against regardless of whether they're innocent or guilty...they only want to win and Dan Goldstein is a prime example of this. Just look at how he's aged and riddled with the disgusting things he has said and done to people. He cannot conceive that everyone is different, he simply worked to box Sally up as a violent woman, he used drug addicts/pedlars to provide witness testimony and he basically worked on the notion that mental health issues do not exist especially when you're battered.
The guy literally shows how he celebrated this as a victory when he took her life. It's pretty inconceivable that this battered woman was planned a murder, called 911 and had herself locked up, away from her children and basically lose her own life to take one...there's zero sense in that, zero.
It shows how fraudulent the "justice" system in the US is.
The guy literally shows how he celebrated this as a victory when he took her life. It's pretty inconceivable that this battered woman was planned a murder, called 911 and had herself locked up, away from her children and basically lose her own life to take one...there's zero sense in that, zero.
It shows how fraudulent the "justice" system in the US is.
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