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This is an early talkie starring Richard Barthelmess as Dick Courtney and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. as Doug Scott, a couple of World War I aces and the best of friends, at least at the beginning of the film. Neil Hamilton (police commissioner Gordon in the 60's Batman TV series) is Major Brand, in charge of handing out commands and assignments among his group of fliers. One day Courtney and Scott pull off a daring air raid that they have been ordered not to do by Brand. When they return, their success causes Brand to be promoted just as he is about to punish Courtney, and now Barthelmess' Dick Courtney is named as replacement and the new commander of the unit.
Now instead of risking death himself, Courtney is the one ordering others into harm's way, and it is cracking him up as he turns more and more to drink. However, he still has Scott's friendship until a new recruit arrives and is ordered into a fatal battle. Now it is Scott who not only has no use for Courtney, but no use for life itself, and it is up to Courtney to make sure that Scott doesn't throw his life away.
This film, like many early talkies, is long on talk but short on the kind of aerial action you'd probably expect in a film about World War I fliers. Only towards the last third of the film do you see much in the way of dogfights. The focus is mainly on the fliers themselves and the futility of war. Barthelmess gives a great and poignant performance as Dick Courtney, and he lasted longer in talking pictures than most silent film actors due to his great skill. Also remember that most of the films made about World War I during this time were essentially anti-war films. By the beginning of the depression, WWI seemed a wasted effort in both money and manpower, and these early talking picture war films reflected that attitude.
The version of this film starring Errol Flynn is what most people remember. It's too bad this version didn't at least rate as an extra feature on that DVD. It makes for an interesting comparison.
Now instead of risking death himself, Courtney is the one ordering others into harm's way, and it is cracking him up as he turns more and more to drink. However, he still has Scott's friendship until a new recruit arrives and is ordered into a fatal battle. Now it is Scott who not only has no use for Courtney, but no use for life itself, and it is up to Courtney to make sure that Scott doesn't throw his life away.
This film, like many early talkies, is long on talk but short on the kind of aerial action you'd probably expect in a film about World War I fliers. Only towards the last third of the film do you see much in the way of dogfights. The focus is mainly on the fliers themselves and the futility of war. Barthelmess gives a great and poignant performance as Dick Courtney, and he lasted longer in talking pictures than most silent film actors due to his great skill. Also remember that most of the films made about World War I during this time were essentially anti-war films. By the beginning of the depression, WWI seemed a wasted effort in both money and manpower, and these early talking picture war films reflected that attitude.
The version of this film starring Errol Flynn is what most people remember. It's too bad this version didn't at least rate as an extra feature on that DVD. It makes for an interesting comparison.
In France for World War I service, British pilots Richard Barthelmess (as Dick Courtney) and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. (as Doug "Scotty" Scott) clash with commander Neil Hamilton (as Drake Brand) over his decisions to send young fliers out on suicide missions in rickety planes. But, with the Germans active nearby, Mr. Hamilton has limited options. Taking the lead, Mr. Barthelmess decides to go over Hamilton's head, completing a dangerous mission with Mr. Fairbanks co-piloting. Hamilton threatens to have him court-martialed, but a worse fate awaits Barthelmess - he is promoted to commander of the "Flight Squadron"...
Now in charge, Barthelmess must order young fliers out on suicide missions in rickety planes. Responding to his own superiors, Barthelmess includes his pal's bright-eyed young brother William Janney (as Gordon "Donny" Scott) on "The Dawn Patrol" - although it could lead to tragedy. To ease war pain, the men drink. There are few surprises in this story, which illustrates the inevitable. A little theatrical by today's standards, Barthelmess and the men perform exceptionally well. The command post scenes are vivid and the aviation exciting, with director Howard Hawks performing double duty as the dreaded "Von Richter".
******* The Dawn Patrol (7/10/30) Howard Hawks ~ Richard Barthelmess, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., Neil Hamilton, William Janney
Now in charge, Barthelmess must order young fliers out on suicide missions in rickety planes. Responding to his own superiors, Barthelmess includes his pal's bright-eyed young brother William Janney (as Gordon "Donny" Scott) on "The Dawn Patrol" - although it could lead to tragedy. To ease war pain, the men drink. There are few surprises in this story, which illustrates the inevitable. A little theatrical by today's standards, Barthelmess and the men perform exceptionally well. The command post scenes are vivid and the aviation exciting, with director Howard Hawks performing double duty as the dreaded "Von Richter".
******* The Dawn Patrol (7/10/30) Howard Hawks ~ Richard Barthelmess, Douglas Fairbanks Jr., Neil Hamilton, William Janney
- wes-connors
- Oct 8, 2011
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This fine movie directed by Howard Hawks is more potent for its absolutely dazzling aerial photography and filming, one of the best I've ever seen - much better than the eighties Top Gun. First, let me say the late twenties to late thirties was the height of what is known as the Aviator movie. Many hits were scored using this genre including this one which was a blockbuster in 1930. The thirties aviator movies in their flight sequences have a certain feeling to them. They are so realistic in look, and this is achieved without music being used, but just the whirring of the engines gaggling, give it a prescient omniprescence that advances in movie technology, Digital imagery and CGI can't duplicate. I mean, any of the thirties aviator pictures sparkle in their flight segments. It must be the way they were shot. I wonder what technique was used. The story for this movie which won an Oscar was written by John Monk Saunders who obviously knew the genre well. He also wrote Wings, the first Academy award winner, Legion of the Condemned, an even bigger hit than Wings with Gary Cooper, Devil Dogs of the Air and West Point of the Air. The leads are Richard Barthelmess and Doug Fairbanks jr. Barthelmess gives the real performance here while Fairbanks gives the movie star performance. They are involved in WWI and are ace pilots and best of friends. The film has a pandemic tone and regurgitating pace that feeds the ennui of war. Like the pilots of Top Gun, they tend to go against orders given by their boss, silent screen leading man, Neil Hamilton who has the tough job of sending men on their missions, missions in which lives will surely be lost. He doesn't like it but he has to follow orders. That is the theme of the movie, obeying and serving your job because it is necessary. Life is hard and fulfilling your function/role against all odds is rote. Tough choices have to be made for the greater good. Cliche but true. That is the irony of war and when one falls, another must takes his place. Barthelmess eventually takes Hamilton's job and in his shoes feels the pressures the man felt and the toughness of following necessary orders. It is not an anti-war movie, more than it is a WAR IS HELL! but heaven is only one more day of hell away. Slow because of early talkie cameras which needed absolute silence to be recorded and were static without any movement, but sets are highly believable and bombing raids uncharacteristically realistic. Dialogue though is a bit pedestrian with certain heavy-handed moments, in today's glare, and performances not up to par in certain areas but overall, a fine movie.
Terrific war film starring Richard Barthelmess as a veteran British pilot in France whose job is to make raids behind enemy lines in what are basically suicide runs. He complains to his commander (Neil Hamilton) about the green kids he gets, but of course war is hell and there's nothing anyone can do. It seems like every day they send out 5 or 6 planes and 2 or 3 come back. The guys drink heavily to hide their anguish. Barthelmess and Hamilton fight constantly until Hamilton is promoted and Barthelmess gets his desk job.
Now it's his job to send out the fliers. His best friend (Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.) becomes the squad leader as the green kids keep showing up for duty. Then Fairbanks' kid brother arrives. What follows breaks up the friendship between Barthelmess and Fairbanks, but the war drones on.
Excellent cinematography of aerial fights and bombing raids. The ending is simply superb, one full of heroism and irony.
Barthelmess and Fairbanks are excellent, and Hamilton is also good. Supporting cast includes Frank McHugh, William Janney, James Finlayson, Clyde Cook, and Gardner James.
Now it's his job to send out the fliers. His best friend (Douglas Fairbanks, Jr.) becomes the squad leader as the green kids keep showing up for duty. Then Fairbanks' kid brother arrives. What follows breaks up the friendship between Barthelmess and Fairbanks, but the war drones on.
Excellent cinematography of aerial fights and bombing raids. The ending is simply superb, one full of heroism and irony.
Barthelmess and Fairbanks are excellent, and Hamilton is also good. Supporting cast includes Frank McHugh, William Janney, James Finlayson, Clyde Cook, and Gardner James.
Having a fondness for a lot of Howard Hawks' films, there was an interest in seeing one of his earliest efforts (his ninth film in fact and his first talkie). 'The Dawn Patrol' is not one of Hawks' best and there is a preference for the 1938 film with Errol Flynn, despite there being the argument of it being pointless it did feel more polished, more natural and every bit as emotional.
1930's 'The Dawn Patrol' does suffer a little from limitations caused in the transition from silent to talkie. The sound quality is primitive and very static, a music score would have helped hugely with providing even more impact and most likely masking this issue. The script can come over as creaky and artificial, and the pacing also has its creaky moments and lacks tautness.
On the other hand, Hawks directs adroitly, and the photography and scenery have a grittiness and luminous quality at all. The flying sequences still come over as remarkably powerful and rousing today, and most of the script is thoughtful and gripping, heavy-handedness wasn't too big an issue here.
'The Dawn Patrol' has a compelling story, perfectly conveying the futility and passion of war, the comrades' horrors and conflicts and showing grace even under pressure.
Characters are not stereotypes in any way, instead compellingly real characters with human and relatable conflicts. The acting is remarkably good for such an early talkie, of course there is some theatricality which to me wasn't that grave a problem. Can find nothing to fault Richard Barthelmess, Douglas Fairbanks Jnr or Neil Hamilton, who all perform with authority and poignancy.
Overall, a good film if not the greatest air epic. 7/10 Bethany Cox
1930's 'The Dawn Patrol' does suffer a little from limitations caused in the transition from silent to talkie. The sound quality is primitive and very static, a music score would have helped hugely with providing even more impact and most likely masking this issue. The script can come over as creaky and artificial, and the pacing also has its creaky moments and lacks tautness.
On the other hand, Hawks directs adroitly, and the photography and scenery have a grittiness and luminous quality at all. The flying sequences still come over as remarkably powerful and rousing today, and most of the script is thoughtful and gripping, heavy-handedness wasn't too big an issue here.
'The Dawn Patrol' has a compelling story, perfectly conveying the futility and passion of war, the comrades' horrors and conflicts and showing grace even under pressure.
Characters are not stereotypes in any way, instead compellingly real characters with human and relatable conflicts. The acting is remarkably good for such an early talkie, of course there is some theatricality which to me wasn't that grave a problem. Can find nothing to fault Richard Barthelmess, Douglas Fairbanks Jnr or Neil Hamilton, who all perform with authority and poignancy.
Overall, a good film if not the greatest air epic. 7/10 Bethany Cox
- TheLittleSongbird
- Mar 11, 2017
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This is what film-making is all about! The Vitaphone audio recording process challenges itself almost continuously in this early talkie. You aurally count the number of planes coming in (off-camera) while watching the reaction of the principals inside the office. You even get the correct fidelity of the wind-up gramophone as characters talk over it. Meanwhile, you watch aerial dogfights that switch seamlessly from soundstage re-creations to actual footage made by a camera mounted at the front of an aeroplane, without any jarring sense of displacement. The melodrama remains palpable with very little over-acting. I'm taking one point off for that occasional over-acting, and for the really dumb use of Southern California semi-desert topography in which the planes take off and land. It wouldn't have been that hard to find a location with a few more trees and more grass. Oh, well. The movie still must have knocked the original audiences' socks off.
- barnesgene
- Jun 16, 2007
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The troubles facing a World War I British flying squadron with a high casualty rate. It's a somewhat conventional war movie that's a little rough around the edges as an early talkie, but wins you over with strong character work, especially from the leads Douglas Fairbanks Jr., Richard Barthelmess and Neil Hamilton. Although the film could use some scoring to enhance the experience (there's only a bit of diegetic music from the phonograph), there are two fantastic action sequences with stunning aerial photography and stunts, particularly the raid on the German camp. The handing over of power (and guilt) to a new commanding officer is an interesting device that I don't think I've seen explored in another film, at least not quite the same way. There are some flaws: a few poor performances and an over-reliance on clunky exposition (it makes me groan whenever I see someone on the phone repeating everything in question form: "What's that you say? We've got to take the bridge!?"). Although ONLY ANGELS HAVE WINGS is not a wartime film, I think it's a slightly better look at the camaraderie and the stakes among flyboys, largely thanks to the high-powered cast. But that doesn't mean this one isn't worthwhile, it definitely has some rewards.
- MartinTeller
- Jan 5, 2012
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Although William Wellman is the Hollywood director most associated with air films, not counting of course the self indulgent Howard Hughes, Howard Hawks with The Dawn Patrol and with Air Circus and Only Angels Have Wings can certainly hold is own against the formidable Mr. Wellman on his own turf.
This may have been Howard Hawks's first sound feature and he debuted magnificently with a story about a group of fliers from the United Kingdom's Royal Flying Corps of World War I. John Monk Saunders wrote the original story for the screen that netted The Dawn Patrol an Academy Award for that category.
The story centers on three men. Group commander Neil Hamilton who has to send his men up against some of Germany's best fliers and two of his senior pilots, Richard Barthelmess and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. Hamilton is a troubled man indeed, having to send barely trained kid pilots and he hears about it from Barthelmess and Fairbanks.
One fine day, oddly enough to do a daring assault that Barthelmess and Fairbanks pull off, Hamilton gets a promotion up to the staff headquarters. In a curious bit of poetic vengeance he names Barthelmess his replacement.
Of course when Barthelmess now is seeing the war from Hamilton's point of view, he starts to behave differently. What he does and the choices he makes are the basis for the rest of this story about some of the United Kingdom's most gallant generation lost in the first terrible total war of the last century.
As Fairbanks and Barthelmess criticize Hamilton in what he does, I do wonder about when they were the fresh recruits. They became the veterans more than likely by sheer chance that they did survive. Yet that never plays a part in their thinking.
The aerial combat sequences are excellently staged, Howard Hughes and William Wellman could hardly have done better. They were so good that they got used again in the 1938 remake of this film.
The Dawn Patrol also marked the film debut of Frank McHugh who graced Warner Brothers films for the next 20 years. I've said in many comments and on their respective pages that it could almost not be a Warner Brothers film without either Frank McHugh or Alan Hale or both in a given feature, they appeared so often. The brothers Warner, got their work out of those two.
The 1938 remake with Errol Flynn, David Niven, and Basil Rathbone is the one most are familiar with. Still this one is the real deal.
This may have been Howard Hawks's first sound feature and he debuted magnificently with a story about a group of fliers from the United Kingdom's Royal Flying Corps of World War I. John Monk Saunders wrote the original story for the screen that netted The Dawn Patrol an Academy Award for that category.
The story centers on three men. Group commander Neil Hamilton who has to send his men up against some of Germany's best fliers and two of his senior pilots, Richard Barthelmess and Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. Hamilton is a troubled man indeed, having to send barely trained kid pilots and he hears about it from Barthelmess and Fairbanks.
One fine day, oddly enough to do a daring assault that Barthelmess and Fairbanks pull off, Hamilton gets a promotion up to the staff headquarters. In a curious bit of poetic vengeance he names Barthelmess his replacement.
Of course when Barthelmess now is seeing the war from Hamilton's point of view, he starts to behave differently. What he does and the choices he makes are the basis for the rest of this story about some of the United Kingdom's most gallant generation lost in the first terrible total war of the last century.
As Fairbanks and Barthelmess criticize Hamilton in what he does, I do wonder about when they were the fresh recruits. They became the veterans more than likely by sheer chance that they did survive. Yet that never plays a part in their thinking.
The aerial combat sequences are excellently staged, Howard Hughes and William Wellman could hardly have done better. They were so good that they got used again in the 1938 remake of this film.
The Dawn Patrol also marked the film debut of Frank McHugh who graced Warner Brothers films for the next 20 years. I've said in many comments and on their respective pages that it could almost not be a Warner Brothers film without either Frank McHugh or Alan Hale or both in a given feature, they appeared so often. The brothers Warner, got their work out of those two.
The 1938 remake with Errol Flynn, David Niven, and Basil Rathbone is the one most are familiar with. Still this one is the real deal.
- bkoganbing
- May 31, 2007
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It's a World War One British flying base. Neil Hamilton is the commander, with Douglas Fairbanks Jr. And Richard Barthelmess his leading pilots. He spends most of his time arguing with headquarters that he can't send the pilots just graduated from flight school up against the German aces.... and accedes. Then he is promoted, and Fairbanks takes his place. He also spends his time arguing that he can't send raw pilots against the German aces and accedes. Even when his kid brother William Janney shows up, full of himself, he's got no choice.
Howard Hawks' movie, based on a story by John Monk Saunders, spends the first third as a stage play, with the pilots in the bar just outside of Hamilton's office. DP Ernest Haller works miracles with angle changes, but they don't disguise the stage play, with everyone overacting a bit.... until the camera moves outside, to the fields and up in the air. Hawks was a war pilot and he knows what looks right and exciting These sequences make this into an exciting movie.... and then it's back to a stage play. Still, those sequences make this a fine movie for 1930, even with the muddy print that shows up on Turner Classic Movies.
Howard Hawks' movie, based on a story by John Monk Saunders, spends the first third as a stage play, with the pilots in the bar just outside of Hamilton's office. DP Ernest Haller works miracles with angle changes, but they don't disguise the stage play, with everyone overacting a bit.... until the camera moves outside, to the fields and up in the air. Hawks was a war pilot and he knows what looks right and exciting These sequences make this into an exciting movie.... and then it's back to a stage play. Still, those sequences make this a fine movie for 1930, even with the muddy print that shows up on Turner Classic Movies.
Great WW1 flying drama. A very gritty and accurate look at life, and death, in a Royal Flying Corps (RFC) fighter squadron. Details fairly well the burden of command, of sending pilots to almost certain death.
Incredibly good flying action scenes, especially for 1930. Great cinematography, for the time. The non-action scenes are good too, filled with drama and the realities of living with a Sword of Damocles over one's head.
Reasonably good performances all round. No real stand-outs. Pity that American actors had to be used for some parts, as it ruins the authenticity somewhat.
For some reason the movie was remade 8 years later, also as The Dawn Patrol, and with Errol Flynn in the lead role. Copied the plot to the letter and didn't add much, so not sure why it was made. Was still a good movie though.
Incredibly good flying action scenes, especially for 1930. Great cinematography, for the time. The non-action scenes are good too, filled with drama and the realities of living with a Sword of Damocles over one's head.
Reasonably good performances all round. No real stand-outs. Pity that American actors had to be used for some parts, as it ruins the authenticity somewhat.
For some reason the movie was remade 8 years later, also as The Dawn Patrol, and with Errol Flynn in the lead role. Copied the plot to the letter and didn't add much, so not sure why it was made. Was still a good movie though.
It's obvious that this film didn't have the budget of some of its more famous contemporaries (HELL'S ANGELS and WINGS), as there were less aerial stunts and more of an emphasis on story. However, this wasn't really a bad thing, as the story itself did have more depth than the other two films--focusing on the pressure on WWI pilots and the fragility of their lives. In many ways, it reminded me of WWII films, COMMAND DECISION and 12 O'CLOCK HIGH because they, too, talk about the burden of leadership and responsibility of sending men to their deaths. So it's obvious that this is NOT your typical "war is fun" type film you so often see! As far as the film goes, it was quite dandy but unfortunately, the 1938 version really wasn't all that different. About the only noticeable difference was that more actors actually spoke with British accents in the remake. Because they are so very similar, I recommend you only see one unless you are a real purist. And, if I needed to say which one, I'd say the later version is slightly better--mostly because it is a bit more polished. The 1930 version lacks background music (something shared by most films in 1930), though otherwise they are neck and neck as far as which one is best. Interestingly, the 1930 version also features James Finlayson (of Laurel and Hardy movie fame) in a supporting role.
- planktonrules
- Jun 2, 2007
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- rmax304823
- Aug 15, 2015
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The Dawn Patrol is a 1930 war film focusing on the aviation aspects of the Great War. The story follows Dick Courtney, an ace pilot fighting for the Royal Flying Corps. As the plot progresses, Courtney's unit is faced with endless suicide missions and heavy casualty rates.
The movie is a true-to-form war story. Without focusing too much on the overall arc of the war and the larger picture, the story focuses instead on a select few soldiers and their own personal struggles. The conflict is well-written and the casting is decent. There are also many great action shots, such as aerial views of bombs being dropped and the resulting explosions.
Unfortunately, the movie is faced with many moments of bad acting. Examples of over-acting, over-the-top performances, bad deliveries, and overly phony death scenes abound in this film. The attempts at comedy are corny and should have been left out. Melodrama constantly bursts into the picture, with otherwise serious characters flying into "say it ain't so!" moments and "don't tell me he's g-g-g-gone!" scenes. At one point, a soldier nonchalantly dives into an opera in an otherwise songless picture.
Overall, you could skip this film. This movie might be pleasing to those who enjoy war movies or perhaps specifically those who like World War I movies. Otherwise, you're not missing much if you decide to miss this one.
The movie is a true-to-form war story. Without focusing too much on the overall arc of the war and the larger picture, the story focuses instead on a select few soldiers and their own personal struggles. The conflict is well-written and the casting is decent. There are also many great action shots, such as aerial views of bombs being dropped and the resulting explosions.
Unfortunately, the movie is faced with many moments of bad acting. Examples of over-acting, over-the-top performances, bad deliveries, and overly phony death scenes abound in this film. The attempts at comedy are corny and should have been left out. Melodrama constantly bursts into the picture, with otherwise serious characters flying into "say it ain't so!" moments and "don't tell me he's g-g-g-gone!" scenes. At one point, a soldier nonchalantly dives into an opera in an otherwise songless picture.
Overall, you could skip this film. This movie might be pleasing to those who enjoy war movies or perhaps specifically those who like World War I movies. Otherwise, you're not missing much if you decide to miss this one.
- brandinscottlindsey
- Aug 21, 2017
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If you want to see a film that has far more substance than the flashy and shallow Top Gun films, then this film will fit the bill. I'll take Douglas Fairbanks over Tom Cruise any day for believability and skills in a plane. The aerial scenes are quite impressive, given the technology of the time. This adds to the suspense and thrill of the film. Anybody can ride a jet plane (even Tom Cruise), but navigating these 1930 planes took real skill. A little known fact about WW 1 is that crop dusters were the top aviators in the air corps. They had a lot of practice dropping loads at low altitudes, which was a prime skilll required for war.
- arthur_tafero
- Oct 3, 2022
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Many on this board have compared this movie to TOP GUN which is a good movie but lacks Dawn Patrol's depth.
The early version of DAWN PATROL tells a complex tale of leadership and command best illustrated by the scene in which the commanding officer is promoted out of the unit and command falls into the hands of his highly critical, hot dog, second in command. I don't remember exactly was the CO said when he opened the orders relieving him. I believe the line goes, "Now see what you can do now that you can't do everything you want." The tension between the commander and his second is what find to be the most interesting part of the movie. Top Gun simply lacks that type of insight. Top Gun is more of an adventure story of a hot dog pilot.
Movies comparable to Dawn Patrol in the military war genre which attain the understanding of the conflict at the top.are Major Dundee, Twelve O'Clock High and surprisingly the John Wayne film Flying Leathernecks.
This film was remade in 1938 with Errol Flynn in the lead role. I'm told that it was so gripping that French spies on the Luxembourg border went to see it and missed the onset of the German invasion.
The early version of DAWN PATROL tells a complex tale of leadership and command best illustrated by the scene in which the commanding officer is promoted out of the unit and command falls into the hands of his highly critical, hot dog, second in command. I don't remember exactly was the CO said when he opened the orders relieving him. I believe the line goes, "Now see what you can do now that you can't do everything you want." The tension between the commander and his second is what find to be the most interesting part of the movie. Top Gun simply lacks that type of insight. Top Gun is more of an adventure story of a hot dog pilot.
Movies comparable to Dawn Patrol in the military war genre which attain the understanding of the conflict at the top.are Major Dundee, Twelve O'Clock High and surprisingly the John Wayne film Flying Leathernecks.
This film was remade in 1938 with Errol Flynn in the lead role. I'm told that it was so gripping that French spies on the Luxembourg border went to see it and missed the onset of the German invasion.
- deanofrpps
- Jul 16, 2006
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In 1927 'Wings' received the first ever academy award as best picture, and in the years thereafter the public evidently wanted more of what director William A. Wellman had given them. With 'The Dawn Patrol', Howard Hawks reacted to this demand. Whether he satisfied it is a different matter. Both films are radically different not only because 'Wings' had much higher production values (more aerial combat scenes etc.), but also because unlike the earlier film, 'The Dawn Patrol' is definitely no romantic coming of age story. Rather, its focus is on the emotional stress of the pilots during and between combats and of their commander, who has to send inexperienced flyers to their almost certain death (in this respect, Hawks' film reminded me strongly of Henry King's 'Twelve O'Clock High' of 1949). Romance is entirely absent; there is not a single female character in 'The Dawn Patrol'. The acting is excellent, and towards the end the plot has a highly interesting and unexpected twist. Picture and sound quality are ok, though there is quite a lot of background noise that a restoration could filter out. In fact, the film ought to be carefully restored: it is worth it.
- Philipp_Flersheim
- Apr 6, 2022
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I was not ready for this movie to come out great. The Air Circus is completely lost and Trent's Last Case is impossible to find, so I don't get the look at the fractured path Hawks took to getting sound to work cinematically like we can with Hitchcock's early sound pictures. Instead we get a film as confident with sound as Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much, but it's a far different picture overall. The Dawn Patrol is a sober war drama about young men having to grow up way too fast or die in impossible air missions over enemy territory. It's a slice of life story about how men under incredible pressure broke and also managed to find their humanity in it all. Hawks had shown real talent in the silent era, but it's obvious that he's more at home in talkies.
The story centers on Dick Courtney, an ace pilot in "A Flight" who has seen young man after young man die seemingly senselessly at orders from "The Throne", the small command center of their RAF airwing staffed by Major Brand. Courtney and his best friend Scott have to deal with the pilots who return home broken after watching their best comrades crash and burn in flames from German bullets. This is a hard life, and you can either fall into complete despair or anger like Brand as he rails against his command officer behind closed doors and Courtney who rails against Brand in front of everyone.
The movie begins with Courtney leading five of seven planes back safely before Brand receives orders to send another seven planes out for another dangerous mission. He has to supplement A Flight with new recruits brought up that night with no more than twenty hours of combat experience. Courtney is outraged by this, but trapped by military command structures both Brand and Courtney do as they are ordered, and the next day only two of the seven come back.
This is close to a breaking point for both men. Brand is wracked with guilt over the orders that he had to give out, and Courtney is incandescent with rage at what happened to the young kids with no experience. Everything gets sidelined in one of the film's most important scenes. They shot down a German pilot on their side of the lines, the German pilot comes into the officer's mess in the small house they're using as a headquarters, and everyone instantly bonds across languages. They share a common comradery in their work and the same danger that they face. They go from trying to murder each other with machines of war to sharing drinks in a mess hall. This doesn't sit well with everyone, but mostly the British pilots are happy to drink with their German counterpart. And that's the center of this story: the dangers of aerial combat are so unique and dangerous that you can't really escape it once you're there. You either die with it or you live on, sharing the experiences with others like a brotherhood. Nobility is in living this life, not without fear, but with concern for those sharing your fate.
When Brand gets promoted leaving Courtney in charge, everything seems to change. Suddenly Courtney is giving out the hard orders for inexperienced men to go out in substandard planes to help fight the war effort, including his best friend Scott's younger brother who dies on his first mission out. When Brand returns with a special order for a bombing mission sixty kilometers behind enemy lines for a single pilot, Courtney asks for volunteers and must pick Scott, angrily taking the mission out of some kind of vengeance for Courtney's "decision" to send his younger brother to die. Courtney hates handing such a mission off, but he's tied to a desk. Still, that doesn't stop him from getting Scott drunk and taking on the mission himself.
Now, for a quick technical comment. Early sound films were really limited in how many sound tracks they could lay on top of one another in a single shot. I think that at this point in 1930 they had gotten to two, though they often relied on just one. This limited heavily the amount of music they could use, usually to just credit sequences. When Courtney goes to Scott's plane to fly and he has his final interaction with the chief mechanic, all we have is sound effects and dialogue without music. In later years, a scene like this would be swelling with music, perhaps even mawkish music, in order to underline Courtney's sacrifice just in case the audience was missing it. I think lacking the music actually gives the moment a quieter kind of emotional power. All the moment has is one man climbing into a plane he knows he'll never get out of again and a mechanic who understands what's going on, accepting it quietly with a salute.
This movie grew on me and grew on me continually as it progressed. By the end, I was completely engaged with everything going on, and when the German pilot (von Richter, a different pilot from the one captured) flies over the RAF outpost and drops a small ode to his British counterpart, it feels completely genuine and fulfilling.
This is a wonderful film, and it's Hawks' best (surviving) film so far in his short career. There's greatness to come as well, I can feel it.
The story centers on Dick Courtney, an ace pilot in "A Flight" who has seen young man after young man die seemingly senselessly at orders from "The Throne", the small command center of their RAF airwing staffed by Major Brand. Courtney and his best friend Scott have to deal with the pilots who return home broken after watching their best comrades crash and burn in flames from German bullets. This is a hard life, and you can either fall into complete despair or anger like Brand as he rails against his command officer behind closed doors and Courtney who rails against Brand in front of everyone.
The movie begins with Courtney leading five of seven planes back safely before Brand receives orders to send another seven planes out for another dangerous mission. He has to supplement A Flight with new recruits brought up that night with no more than twenty hours of combat experience. Courtney is outraged by this, but trapped by military command structures both Brand and Courtney do as they are ordered, and the next day only two of the seven come back.
This is close to a breaking point for both men. Brand is wracked with guilt over the orders that he had to give out, and Courtney is incandescent with rage at what happened to the young kids with no experience. Everything gets sidelined in one of the film's most important scenes. They shot down a German pilot on their side of the lines, the German pilot comes into the officer's mess in the small house they're using as a headquarters, and everyone instantly bonds across languages. They share a common comradery in their work and the same danger that they face. They go from trying to murder each other with machines of war to sharing drinks in a mess hall. This doesn't sit well with everyone, but mostly the British pilots are happy to drink with their German counterpart. And that's the center of this story: the dangers of aerial combat are so unique and dangerous that you can't really escape it once you're there. You either die with it or you live on, sharing the experiences with others like a brotherhood. Nobility is in living this life, not without fear, but with concern for those sharing your fate.
When Brand gets promoted leaving Courtney in charge, everything seems to change. Suddenly Courtney is giving out the hard orders for inexperienced men to go out in substandard planes to help fight the war effort, including his best friend Scott's younger brother who dies on his first mission out. When Brand returns with a special order for a bombing mission sixty kilometers behind enemy lines for a single pilot, Courtney asks for volunteers and must pick Scott, angrily taking the mission out of some kind of vengeance for Courtney's "decision" to send his younger brother to die. Courtney hates handing such a mission off, but he's tied to a desk. Still, that doesn't stop him from getting Scott drunk and taking on the mission himself.
Now, for a quick technical comment. Early sound films were really limited in how many sound tracks they could lay on top of one another in a single shot. I think that at this point in 1930 they had gotten to two, though they often relied on just one. This limited heavily the amount of music they could use, usually to just credit sequences. When Courtney goes to Scott's plane to fly and he has his final interaction with the chief mechanic, all we have is sound effects and dialogue without music. In later years, a scene like this would be swelling with music, perhaps even mawkish music, in order to underline Courtney's sacrifice just in case the audience was missing it. I think lacking the music actually gives the moment a quieter kind of emotional power. All the moment has is one man climbing into a plane he knows he'll never get out of again and a mechanic who understands what's going on, accepting it quietly with a salute.
This movie grew on me and grew on me continually as it progressed. By the end, I was completely engaged with everything going on, and when the German pilot (von Richter, a different pilot from the one captured) flies over the RAF outpost and drops a small ode to his British counterpart, it feels completely genuine and fulfilling.
This is a wonderful film, and it's Hawks' best (surviving) film so far in his short career. There's greatness to come as well, I can feel it.
- davidmvining
- May 24, 2021
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The Dawn Patrol tells the story of a British flying squadron in WW I. Dick Courtney (Richard Barthelmess) is the ace pilot facing the problem that his squadron is sent on mission impossible almost every day. Major Brand (Neil Hamilton) is his commander who suffers under the circumstances that he has to send inexperienced pilots on those missions with the knowledge that every time his squadron is at least halved.
The first half of the film we see the struggle between Courtney and Brand. The Major is criticized and blamed by Courtney for sending all those young pilots into their untimely death. Brand defends himself because he only follows the orders of his superiors. Then Major Brand is promoted and Courtney becomes commander of the squadron. Instead of flying with his pals he faces a career behind a desk and after a while he realizes that he is in the same position as Major Brand before him. He looses himself in depression and alcohol before operating in a final heroic flight.
At first we don't see to many action in this movie. Most scenes are in Major Brand's office or at the bar of the airport. We see the companionship between the pilots but also the despair, the fear and a lot of drinking. In the second part we follow the pilots as they do their missions. Taking into account that this movie was made in the early thirties the war in the air is very well pictured. Those scenes were used again for the remake of 1938. Still I don't think that The Dawn Patrol gives a realistic view of the lives of RAF pilots during the Great War. It wouldn't be possible to consume so many alcohol and still control those early airplanes to survive the missions into enemy territory.
The film shows a lot of respect for the pilots but also for the enemy. When a German is captured he joins the drinking bout before he is taken to prison. The most striking moment in the film is the salute that Courtney gives the German pilot who has just shot him down. The pilots are portrayed as modern knights whose war in the air knows other rules and the dirty war on the ground.
So in a year wherein legendary anti war films like All Quiet on the Western Front and West front 1918 were made The Dawn Patrol was already a bit old fashioned. Although the harsh reality of war is shown by the losses of young men's lives and the hard choices that the command of squadron had to made the film also glorifies the pilots, their loyalty and their respect for their enemy. The action scenes are very well photographed but that doesn't compensate the long scenes in the office and at the bar with drunken pilots. As said better movies are made about the Great War and the circumstances the soldiers were in.
The first half of the film we see the struggle between Courtney and Brand. The Major is criticized and blamed by Courtney for sending all those young pilots into their untimely death. Brand defends himself because he only follows the orders of his superiors. Then Major Brand is promoted and Courtney becomes commander of the squadron. Instead of flying with his pals he faces a career behind a desk and after a while he realizes that he is in the same position as Major Brand before him. He looses himself in depression and alcohol before operating in a final heroic flight.
At first we don't see to many action in this movie. Most scenes are in Major Brand's office or at the bar of the airport. We see the companionship between the pilots but also the despair, the fear and a lot of drinking. In the second part we follow the pilots as they do their missions. Taking into account that this movie was made in the early thirties the war in the air is very well pictured. Those scenes were used again for the remake of 1938. Still I don't think that The Dawn Patrol gives a realistic view of the lives of RAF pilots during the Great War. It wouldn't be possible to consume so many alcohol and still control those early airplanes to survive the missions into enemy territory.
The film shows a lot of respect for the pilots but also for the enemy. When a German is captured he joins the drinking bout before he is taken to prison. The most striking moment in the film is the salute that Courtney gives the German pilot who has just shot him down. The pilots are portrayed as modern knights whose war in the air knows other rules and the dirty war on the ground.
So in a year wherein legendary anti war films like All Quiet on the Western Front and West front 1918 were made The Dawn Patrol was already a bit old fashioned. Although the harsh reality of war is shown by the losses of young men's lives and the hard choices that the command of squadron had to made the film also glorifies the pilots, their loyalty and their respect for their enemy. The action scenes are very well photographed but that doesn't compensate the long scenes in the office and at the bar with drunken pilots. As said better movies are made about the Great War and the circumstances the soldiers were in.
It seems that war movies have always had a way to my heart. No matter the budget, the battle, B&W, or color, I seem to have an affinity for them.
The movie "The Dawn Patrol" aka "Flight Commander" chronicles the daily lives and missions of Britain's 59th squadron (not sure what Britain's military branches are). They were a small unit that boasted no more than six planes at a time. They were steadily running on suicide missions under the command of a stressed out Major Brand (Neil Hamilton).
The movie takes place in France in 1915 during the Great War. It spans an undetermined length of time that could be months or years. We get to see some early-model single-engine propeller planes taking off, landing, and even pulling some aerial maneuvers. It was a sight.
The main characters were Brand, Dick Courtney (Richard Barthelmess), and Douglas Scott (Douglas Fairbanks). All were pilots while Brand was anchored to a desk regrettably sending men to their deaths. He was in an ongoing contentious battle with Courtney as the two second guessed each other while neither had an easy job.
Like any movie about war we see deaths, sadness, anxiety, and how the men deal with it all. Conversely, we see heroism, self-sacrifice, and comradery as well. "The Dawn Patrol" is a lot different than the German WWI made the same year called "Westernfront 1918." As I said, all war movies are going to share some similarities, but I think Dawn Patrol happens to be better.
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The movie "The Dawn Patrol" aka "Flight Commander" chronicles the daily lives and missions of Britain's 59th squadron (not sure what Britain's military branches are). They were a small unit that boasted no more than six planes at a time. They were steadily running on suicide missions under the command of a stressed out Major Brand (Neil Hamilton).
The movie takes place in France in 1915 during the Great War. It spans an undetermined length of time that could be months or years. We get to see some early-model single-engine propeller planes taking off, landing, and even pulling some aerial maneuvers. It was a sight.
The main characters were Brand, Dick Courtney (Richard Barthelmess), and Douglas Scott (Douglas Fairbanks). All were pilots while Brand was anchored to a desk regrettably sending men to their deaths. He was in an ongoing contentious battle with Courtney as the two second guessed each other while neither had an easy job.
Like any movie about war we see deaths, sadness, anxiety, and how the men deal with it all. Conversely, we see heroism, self-sacrifice, and comradery as well. "The Dawn Patrol" is a lot different than the German WWI made the same year called "Westernfront 1918." As I said, all war movies are going to share some similarities, but I think Dawn Patrol happens to be better.
Free on Internet Archive.
- view_and_review
- Jan 5, 2023
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(Note: although IMDb calls this film "Dawn Patrol" like its 1938 remake, the original title was "Flight Command," and it is occasionally screened under that title by TCM. Neither should be mistaken for the much-inferior 1940 "Flight Command" about Navy pilots, which starred Robert Taylor.)
In either version, "Dawn Patrol" is a stirring and exciting story of the courage shown by pilots who know they or their friends will likely be killed on one of their missions, and the anguish their commanders feel when sending them to their deaths. Set on the battlefields of WWI, it is filled with exciting and realistic (because it IS real) flying from the age of "knights of the air." In fact, whole sequences (especially flying scenes and the climactic attack) were lifted directly from this film for use in the remake.
Although it's a close call, I'd have to say this is one of the rare instances when a remake improves upon its predecessor, and recommend the 1938 film over the 1930 one, for the superior performances of the lead actors. 1938's Errol Flynn (as Dick Courtney) was more involving than 1930's Richard Barthelmess, a veteran actor whose performance retains the somewhat stilted quality of silent film era. And although Douglas Fairbanks Jr. was excellent in the 1930 version as pilot Doug Scott, David Niven in the same role positively sparkles in several more light-hearted, even comedic scenes. And of course, 1938's sneery Basil Rathbone makes for a much more despicable Major Brand (as the story calls for) than the original film's Neil Hamilton.
Furthermore, current (as of 2012) releases of 1930's "Flight Command / Dawn Patrol" are not as visually clear in all scenes as the later version, and also have a lot of scratchy sounds and low rumble in the soundtrack, which are especially distracting in quieter scenes, particularly since the 1930 film did not have a musical soundtrack. Hopefully, remastered versions of both films will someday be available.
Still, this is only nit-picking, as both the 1930 and 1938 versions of "Dawn Patrol" are excellent. But given the choice, go with Flynn and Niven of 1938.
In either version, "Dawn Patrol" is a stirring and exciting story of the courage shown by pilots who know they or their friends will likely be killed on one of their missions, and the anguish their commanders feel when sending them to their deaths. Set on the battlefields of WWI, it is filled with exciting and realistic (because it IS real) flying from the age of "knights of the air." In fact, whole sequences (especially flying scenes and the climactic attack) were lifted directly from this film for use in the remake.
Although it's a close call, I'd have to say this is one of the rare instances when a remake improves upon its predecessor, and recommend the 1938 film over the 1930 one, for the superior performances of the lead actors. 1938's Errol Flynn (as Dick Courtney) was more involving than 1930's Richard Barthelmess, a veteran actor whose performance retains the somewhat stilted quality of silent film era. And although Douglas Fairbanks Jr. was excellent in the 1930 version as pilot Doug Scott, David Niven in the same role positively sparkles in several more light-hearted, even comedic scenes. And of course, 1938's sneery Basil Rathbone makes for a much more despicable Major Brand (as the story calls for) than the original film's Neil Hamilton.
Furthermore, current (as of 2012) releases of 1930's "Flight Command / Dawn Patrol" are not as visually clear in all scenes as the later version, and also have a lot of scratchy sounds and low rumble in the soundtrack, which are especially distracting in quieter scenes, particularly since the 1930 film did not have a musical soundtrack. Hopefully, remastered versions of both films will someday be available.
Still, this is only nit-picking, as both the 1930 and 1938 versions of "Dawn Patrol" are excellent. But given the choice, go with Flynn and Niven of 1938.
This is a terrific movie about friendship. Loyalty, bravery and doing the right thing even if you know what the results may be. This is from the era of realistic portrayals of brave men making tough choices, in a well acted film with an a unexpected ending.
- braun-andrew
- Mar 27, 2022
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- JohnHowardReid
- Jan 10, 2018
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That's normally the answer to all orders given to the fliers in the day room of "Flight Commander". It signifies neither assent or disagreement, just obedience to official orders. You have to watch the face or listen to the tone to decide whether the recipient is enthused, annoyed or resigned. Such is life on the western front of an RAF outpost during WW1 - and where life is a fragile commodity.
Also known as "The Dawn Patrol", it was remade in 1938. That's the one I knew from Million Dollar Movie on Ch. 9 in NYC, and it would play for a whole week. I loved it and watched it as often as I could. I thought no one could beat Errol Flynn and David Niven in the two lead roles, until I saw the original, "Flight Commander" which starred Richard Barthelmess, Neil Hamilton and Douglas Fairbanks,Jr. (Basil Rathbone played the Neil Hamilton role as Commander of the doomed fliers in the '38 version). The acting was far superior in the earlier version, but the later one had better production values. It seems some of the same great aerial footage was used in both films.
If I had to pick one, I like this (1930) version better as it was emotionally more satisfying; it had more 'heart'. And Richard Barthelmess was an excellent actor who for some reason couldn't last in talking pictures. I also thought this may have been Fairbanks' best acting job. Well, that's my take on the two films, and that's the best part of going to the movies - it's often subjective, and there's no accounting for taste.
Also known as "The Dawn Patrol", it was remade in 1938. That's the one I knew from Million Dollar Movie on Ch. 9 in NYC, and it would play for a whole week. I loved it and watched it as often as I could. I thought no one could beat Errol Flynn and David Niven in the two lead roles, until I saw the original, "Flight Commander" which starred Richard Barthelmess, Neil Hamilton and Douglas Fairbanks,Jr. (Basil Rathbone played the Neil Hamilton role as Commander of the doomed fliers in the '38 version). The acting was far superior in the earlier version, but the later one had better production values. It seems some of the same great aerial footage was used in both films.
If I had to pick one, I like this (1930) version better as it was emotionally more satisfying; it had more 'heart'. And Richard Barthelmess was an excellent actor who for some reason couldn't last in talking pictures. I also thought this may have been Fairbanks' best acting job. Well, that's my take on the two films, and that's the best part of going to the movies - it's often subjective, and there's no accounting for taste.