Retrospective on the career of enigmatic screen diva Marlene Dietrich.Retrospective on the career of enigmatic screen diva Marlene Dietrich.Retrospective on the career of enigmatic screen diva Marlene Dietrich.
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A revealing film about the most alluring actress in film history
Today I watched a documentary on Marlene Dietrich titled 'Marlene'. It was produced in 1984 and directed by Dietrich's "Judgment at Nuremberg" co-star Maximilian Schell. I don't know how many of you know this, but Marlene agreed to do the film only if the director was in compliance with her wish not to be photographed, and because of this she does not appear in the film. But her Paris apartment is recreated to give the illusion that the actress is really there. Her voice, however, is used as the narration through the film, which is aided with various clips of her movies, concert performances and newsreel footage.
To begin with, Marlene shows little interest in this whole film -- it's obvious -- and even less interest in the discussion of her movies -- that's, sadly, even more obvious. I'm convinced now more than ever that she never enjoyed working on a movie. Still, it's nice to discover that she is able to remember her experiences with a lot of clarity, sometimes using the German word "kitsch" (worthless) to describe most of her film work; although I may disagree with her on some. Marlene also talks about other things besides her films. Her singing career and personal life are briefly discussed, as well as Jean Gabin, Ernest Hemingway, Josef von Sternberg and her marriage to Rudolph Sieber.
It's a strange documentary that you can't help but like. And not everything you would like to hear (even if you consider them important in her life) is mentioned a whole lot in this; such as the war years, where Marlene's tireless efforts to entertain the allied troops stationed at the front, seemed neglected. I remember hearing Schell saying to Marlene in the beginning of the film that he didn't want this to be a typical A-B-C from childhood to present interview. Well, perhaps it would've worked better had it been that way. Much of it was a mess -- not difficult to follow necessarily -- just may have been easier on Marlene's temper had there been some kind of order to the whole thing. Maybe.
It gets a little heated towards the end of the film. Schell seems to have angered Marlene at one point by pressing her for a comment on one of her movies. I don't know how serious it was after the tape stopped rolling, but she evidently wasn't amused. In the end, it becomes apparent to the viewer how cranky Dietrich is at this point in her life. You could argue that it might have something to do with her age, but I think it has more to do with the fact that she was an incredibly disciplined woman who favored manners and intelligence over such common habits like idle gossip and unpreparedness. In fact, her attitude during this film is so overwhelming to the point where it's just sad. She may sound bitter, but she's a woman worth listening to regardless. Watching this documentary gives Riva's book even more credibility, in my opinion, especially in the final years of Dietrich's life where you wonder if all those incidents you read about were true.
To begin with, Marlene shows little interest in this whole film -- it's obvious -- and even less interest in the discussion of her movies -- that's, sadly, even more obvious. I'm convinced now more than ever that she never enjoyed working on a movie. Still, it's nice to discover that she is able to remember her experiences with a lot of clarity, sometimes using the German word "kitsch" (worthless) to describe most of her film work; although I may disagree with her on some. Marlene also talks about other things besides her films. Her singing career and personal life are briefly discussed, as well as Jean Gabin, Ernest Hemingway, Josef von Sternberg and her marriage to Rudolph Sieber.
It's a strange documentary that you can't help but like. And not everything you would like to hear (even if you consider them important in her life) is mentioned a whole lot in this; such as the war years, where Marlene's tireless efforts to entertain the allied troops stationed at the front, seemed neglected. I remember hearing Schell saying to Marlene in the beginning of the film that he didn't want this to be a typical A-B-C from childhood to present interview. Well, perhaps it would've worked better had it been that way. Much of it was a mess -- not difficult to follow necessarily -- just may have been easier on Marlene's temper had there been some kind of order to the whole thing. Maybe.
It gets a little heated towards the end of the film. Schell seems to have angered Marlene at one point by pressing her for a comment on one of her movies. I don't know how serious it was after the tape stopped rolling, but she evidently wasn't amused. In the end, it becomes apparent to the viewer how cranky Dietrich is at this point in her life. You could argue that it might have something to do with her age, but I think it has more to do with the fact that she was an incredibly disciplined woman who favored manners and intelligence over such common habits like idle gossip and unpreparedness. In fact, her attitude during this film is so overwhelming to the point where it's just sad. She may sound bitter, but she's a woman worth listening to regardless. Watching this documentary gives Riva's book even more credibility, in my opinion, especially in the final years of Dietrich's life where you wonder if all those incidents you read about were true.
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Super Documentary
Schell turns Dietrich's refusal to appear on-camera for him from what could have been a disaster to a distinct artistic advantage. Being able only to hear her growl her own commentary over scenes from earlier films, newsreels, etc., gives this picture an amazing power and poignancy that it would not have otherwise. An amazing movie.
the film itself is its own subject
Maximilian Schell's documentary portrait of legendary screen siren Marlene Dietrich separates the woman from her myth, but because Dietrich herself refused to appear on camera the director was presented with a dilemma: how to construct the film without its subject? His clever (if desperate) solution was to document, instead, his own frustration in making the film, using Dietrich's disembodied, tape recorded voice to supplement scenes of the director scrambling for cohesive footage.
Surprisingly, the finished film (messy as it often is) creates a remarkably full picture of the reclusive star, despite (and in large part because of) her absence. Dietrich's voice alone – obstinate, caustic, skeptical of Schell's project, scornful of her own allure – says more (with more insight) than any scripted monologue could provide, and her unedited conversations with Schell (an old comrade) are unpredictable and candid, often becoming verbal sparring matches in two languages.
Surprisingly, the finished film (messy as it often is) creates a remarkably full picture of the reclusive star, despite (and in large part because of) her absence. Dietrich's voice alone – obstinate, caustic, skeptical of Schell's project, scornful of her own allure – says more (with more insight) than any scripted monologue could provide, and her unedited conversations with Schell (an old comrade) are unpredictable and candid, often becoming verbal sparring matches in two languages.
Strange and wonderful documentary
I've seen another documentary on Marlene Dietrich and also read her daughter's book. I was interested in this one for a bizarre reason- I once sat on the New York subway next to someone who had the script of this documentary with him. Being a big fan of Maximilian Schell's, I wanted to see it.
Schell, who appeared with Dietrich in "Judgment at Nuremberg," was able to convince the actress to do this documentary, but she would not permit herself to be shown on camera.
She was last seen in the 1978 film Just a Gigolo, heavily made up and behind a veil, but still looking mighty good to me. But if one reads her daughter's book, it's easy to see that as she aged, she became a little eccentric. She spent the last 11 years of her life bedridden and allowed very few people to see her.
So the famous Dietrich voice supplies a narration of sorts to the glorious film clips, clips of her in newsreels, and film of her doing her one-woman show. It is all glorious, showing how she evolved over the years, her excellent acting in films like "Judgment at Nuremberg," "Witness for the Prosecution," and "Touch of Evil," and the incredible charisma and beauty she shared with the audience in her show.
At one point, Schell offends her and she lays into him. making a remark about him being a "Swiss", and telling him she'd sat at tables with politicians and dignitaries and no one had ever spoken to her like that. She went on for a while. Schell punctuates her words with images of flying film strips and a whizzing, distorted background.
She could be abrupt, but also emotional as she recites a favorite poem of her mother's.
Dietrich talks like she hated making movies, didn't do much to get into a role, her private life was private. It's hard to say now. One thing that wasn't gone into was her passion for Jean Gabin, nor was much of the documentary focused on her war work.
Marlene Dietrich was a magical personality, an exotic beauty, a wonderful actress, and a magnificent performer. This documentary gives us plenty of examples of her magic and, if you don't appreciate her now, you will after seeing this.
She was the kind of star we won't see again - androgynous, earthy, and very much of her time. In her eighties when this was made, her attitude is very much like her final words in Touch of Evil: "What does it matter what you say about people?"
Schell, who appeared with Dietrich in "Judgment at Nuremberg," was able to convince the actress to do this documentary, but she would not permit herself to be shown on camera.
She was last seen in the 1978 film Just a Gigolo, heavily made up and behind a veil, but still looking mighty good to me. But if one reads her daughter's book, it's easy to see that as she aged, she became a little eccentric. She spent the last 11 years of her life bedridden and allowed very few people to see her.
So the famous Dietrich voice supplies a narration of sorts to the glorious film clips, clips of her in newsreels, and film of her doing her one-woman show. It is all glorious, showing how she evolved over the years, her excellent acting in films like "Judgment at Nuremberg," "Witness for the Prosecution," and "Touch of Evil," and the incredible charisma and beauty she shared with the audience in her show.
At one point, Schell offends her and she lays into him. making a remark about him being a "Swiss", and telling him she'd sat at tables with politicians and dignitaries and no one had ever spoken to her like that. She went on for a while. Schell punctuates her words with images of flying film strips and a whizzing, distorted background.
She could be abrupt, but also emotional as she recites a favorite poem of her mother's.
Dietrich talks like she hated making movies, didn't do much to get into a role, her private life was private. It's hard to say now. One thing that wasn't gone into was her passion for Jean Gabin, nor was much of the documentary focused on her war work.
Marlene Dietrich was a magical personality, an exotic beauty, a wonderful actress, and a magnificent performer. This documentary gives us plenty of examples of her magic and, if you don't appreciate her now, you will after seeing this.
She was the kind of star we won't see again - androgynous, earthy, and very much of her time. In her eighties when this was made, her attitude is very much like her final words in Touch of Evil: "What does it matter what you say about people?"
Movie Icon Unfolds Her Phenomenon, Human Phenomenon to Us
"You won't believe it but the lady is extremely funny" (Maximilian Schell on Marlene Dietrich)
September 1982, the Paris apartment of Marlene Dietrich...contracted for "40 hours of talking," the 81 year-old movie star at last agreed to take part in the documentary about her phenomenon. Mixed feelings, various expectations, surprises or disappointments: contradictory emotions turn up in viewers of this! Ms Dietrich reluctantly talks to Maximilian Schell, the most successful actor of German background in Hollywood. The two know each other thanks to their collaboration in the historic JUDGEMENT OF NUREMBERG 21 years earlier under the direction of Billy Wilder. Both became the expiating conscience for the post war period in motion picture industry. And both Marlene and Maximilian know that. Yet, after all these years, what pays off is getting to know the legendary movie star and encourage her to talk about MARLENE naturally. At this point she is too modest, aging, reclusive, very much to the point in her answers and too practical to praise her own heyday. Just talk. However, it appears that this little may appear too much for a great movie star. If people expect Ms Dietrich to reveal much of herself, they had better put aside this illusion. Nevertheless, among many of the documentaries, MARLENE stands on its own being a must see for her fans. Why?
Because of its wonderfully specific style! As a matter of fact, all the aspects that have been criticized about the movie are its main pluses. Critical viewers are usually too much closed within the world of 'clear, linear presentation.' When something sophisticated comes, they tend to misinterpret. Soon we realize that it is not a conventional documentary about a celebrity but an absorbing chain of interaction, sometimes contradictory, impolite, absurd, quarrelsome interaction seemingly unendurable for an ordinary 'watcher.' It is all like a puzzle of hardly any information and viewers may easily be confused where the talks lead us. But isn't every human being a sort of puzzle which may only be harmed by 'conventions?'
Considering Marlene's undeniably strong personality, along with the director Maximilian Schell, we try to figure out the personality, the phenomenon of the silver screen star who obstinately does not let anyone into her private life which has always been, as she puts it, 'completely separated from her professional life.'
This time, she deliberately fails to do what the director says. The fact we do not see their faces but only hear their voices supplies us with inevitable imagination and empathy. To a greater extent, we are with Mr. Schell whose pursuits and patience influence us and make us look forward to the climactic encounter with the star's personality. Despite its chaotic moments and highly unconventional style of a documentary, the whole puzzle becomes meaningful only with the patience of the director and the patience of the viewers. Therefore, MARLENE meets such radical and extreme impressions. Here Ms Dietrich is hardly clear to understand, a hardly likable creature who smiles at everyone, accepts every view and nods like a politically correct 'parrot' She is not 'exciting' forget it! (that is not what she was contracted to be). She is honest about the hard work that the 'snotty kid' inevitably needed for the success; she is no dreamer with sentimental, 'kitschy' feelings; she is not fond of past; she is no 'amateur improviser' but a very practical woman who seems to have known the business as hardly anyone has. Most importantly, she is herself at the grave of her career and the twilight of her life...still before... revealing to us the timelessly high standards in art and style.
That is why, Schell's MARLENE being least conventional makes it a documentary she truly deserved (paradoxically so reluctant from her side). But let me highlight one more thing that appears of highest importance when you see this documentary. That is Ms Dietrich's striking modesty and practical attitude when she reacts to Schell's 'comments' on her films and certain scenes.
Alfred Hitchcock, having worked with Marlene Dietrich on his STAGE FRIGHT, said a very simple, yet an extremely meaning sentence about her: "She is a professional." Here lies the key to understanding her persona. Although she is sometimes so pretentious while talking to Mr. Schell, her ideas are deeply rooted in her very professional attitude. She is not happy about being shown the things she had done. Consider her notes on certain people she had collaborated with, in particular Orson Welles, Burt Bacharach, Fritz Lang and, foremost, Josef Von Sternberg. Moreover, her 'interpretation' of the scenes she had played, including the ones in MOROCCO, DISHONEST and THE SCARLETT EMPRESS are purely constructive and objective with the healthy distance and criticism. With this true professionalism comes her modesty: "I was an actress. I made films. Period." Elsewhere, she denies her sex appeal and erotic magnetism evoked in certain films. Enigmatic?...Complexed?....Reclusive?....Sad? ....
"...I meant no harm!" We meant no harm! Our curiosity has led us all to a dangerous spot, to the encounter with melancholy and emotions. Nevertheless, Ferdiand Freiligrath's poem allows us all for a genuine tear, something all human beings, no matter if great cinema stars or simple viewers, deserve. A moment of Human Phenomenon for humans who should 'love as long as love they can.'
No 'blind idolatry' but a very realistic glimpse of Marlene who had her significant moment in the cinema history and won world acclaim. 8/10
September 1982, the Paris apartment of Marlene Dietrich...contracted for "40 hours of talking," the 81 year-old movie star at last agreed to take part in the documentary about her phenomenon. Mixed feelings, various expectations, surprises or disappointments: contradictory emotions turn up in viewers of this! Ms Dietrich reluctantly talks to Maximilian Schell, the most successful actor of German background in Hollywood. The two know each other thanks to their collaboration in the historic JUDGEMENT OF NUREMBERG 21 years earlier under the direction of Billy Wilder. Both became the expiating conscience for the post war period in motion picture industry. And both Marlene and Maximilian know that. Yet, after all these years, what pays off is getting to know the legendary movie star and encourage her to talk about MARLENE naturally. At this point she is too modest, aging, reclusive, very much to the point in her answers and too practical to praise her own heyday. Just talk. However, it appears that this little may appear too much for a great movie star. If people expect Ms Dietrich to reveal much of herself, they had better put aside this illusion. Nevertheless, among many of the documentaries, MARLENE stands on its own being a must see for her fans. Why?
Because of its wonderfully specific style! As a matter of fact, all the aspects that have been criticized about the movie are its main pluses. Critical viewers are usually too much closed within the world of 'clear, linear presentation.' When something sophisticated comes, they tend to misinterpret. Soon we realize that it is not a conventional documentary about a celebrity but an absorbing chain of interaction, sometimes contradictory, impolite, absurd, quarrelsome interaction seemingly unendurable for an ordinary 'watcher.' It is all like a puzzle of hardly any information and viewers may easily be confused where the talks lead us. But isn't every human being a sort of puzzle which may only be harmed by 'conventions?'
Considering Marlene's undeniably strong personality, along with the director Maximilian Schell, we try to figure out the personality, the phenomenon of the silver screen star who obstinately does not let anyone into her private life which has always been, as she puts it, 'completely separated from her professional life.'
This time, she deliberately fails to do what the director says. The fact we do not see their faces but only hear their voices supplies us with inevitable imagination and empathy. To a greater extent, we are with Mr. Schell whose pursuits and patience influence us and make us look forward to the climactic encounter with the star's personality. Despite its chaotic moments and highly unconventional style of a documentary, the whole puzzle becomes meaningful only with the patience of the director and the patience of the viewers. Therefore, MARLENE meets such radical and extreme impressions. Here Ms Dietrich is hardly clear to understand, a hardly likable creature who smiles at everyone, accepts every view and nods like a politically correct 'parrot' She is not 'exciting' forget it! (that is not what she was contracted to be). She is honest about the hard work that the 'snotty kid' inevitably needed for the success; she is no dreamer with sentimental, 'kitschy' feelings; she is not fond of past; she is no 'amateur improviser' but a very practical woman who seems to have known the business as hardly anyone has. Most importantly, she is herself at the grave of her career and the twilight of her life...still before... revealing to us the timelessly high standards in art and style.
That is why, Schell's MARLENE being least conventional makes it a documentary she truly deserved (paradoxically so reluctant from her side). But let me highlight one more thing that appears of highest importance when you see this documentary. That is Ms Dietrich's striking modesty and practical attitude when she reacts to Schell's 'comments' on her films and certain scenes.
Alfred Hitchcock, having worked with Marlene Dietrich on his STAGE FRIGHT, said a very simple, yet an extremely meaning sentence about her: "She is a professional." Here lies the key to understanding her persona. Although she is sometimes so pretentious while talking to Mr. Schell, her ideas are deeply rooted in her very professional attitude. She is not happy about being shown the things she had done. Consider her notes on certain people she had collaborated with, in particular Orson Welles, Burt Bacharach, Fritz Lang and, foremost, Josef Von Sternberg. Moreover, her 'interpretation' of the scenes she had played, including the ones in MOROCCO, DISHONEST and THE SCARLETT EMPRESS are purely constructive and objective with the healthy distance and criticism. With this true professionalism comes her modesty: "I was an actress. I made films. Period." Elsewhere, she denies her sex appeal and erotic magnetism evoked in certain films. Enigmatic?...Complexed?....Reclusive?....Sad? ....
"...I meant no harm!" We meant no harm! Our curiosity has led us all to a dangerous spot, to the encounter with melancholy and emotions. Nevertheless, Ferdiand Freiligrath's poem allows us all for a genuine tear, something all human beings, no matter if great cinema stars or simple viewers, deserve. A moment of Human Phenomenon for humans who should 'love as long as love they can.'
No 'blind idolatry' but a very realistic glimpse of Marlene who had her significant moment in the cinema history and won world acclaim. 8/10
Did you know
- TriviaDirector Maximilian Schell got Marlene Dietrich to agree to appear in this documentary only on the stipulation that she not be photographed as she looked at the time. Instead, we only hear her in interviews.
- GoofsThe documentary states that "Dietrich" was the maiden name of Marlene's mother. This is completely untrue. Wilhelmina Dietrich was born Wilhelmina Felsing. Dietrich was the name of Marlene's biological father, Louis Dietrich, after whose death Wilhelmina married Eduard von Losch, who thereby became Marlene's stepfather.
- Quotes
[Last line, to director Maximilian Shell about this film]
Marlene Dietrich: You never sell that in America.
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- Marlene: An Astonishing Visit
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- $852,676
- Opening weekend US & Canada
- $14,490
- Nov 9, 1986
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- $852,676
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