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I quite enjoy watching older movies (pre 2000), just to see the difference in films between then and now, so I saw this on Netflix and I took a punt. And I was quite disappointed to be honest.
So the beginning, the plot absolutely flies by, there's no dithering about and it throws you into the thick of it within minutes. 10 minutes in you know the characters, the plot, her mother's maiden name and what they had for dinner last June. This pace, in my opinion, is a good thing and I thought it would continue this way throughout. Then all of a sudden, it kind of just sticks to a standstill. Very little happens, even the ending is really underwhelming and nothing really of note happens. Between the 15 min mark and an hour all of what happened could genuinely be condensed into a single scene.
As you're watching you are waiting for THAT moment. The twist, the golden moment that makes you go "aghhh". But nothing happens, it's just really boring. You're waiting for something to go down, or even something to be said that kicks the film into gear. But no.
It also just got predictable, you knew what was going to happen in the scene and you knew what was going to happen in the next scene.
The saving grace to this film was the performances. Jessica Lange in particular played her role really well, but ultimately it's not enough to get this film going.
So yeah. Disappointed in this movie and perks ably wouldn't recommend. 4/10
So the beginning, the plot absolutely flies by, there's no dithering about and it throws you into the thick of it within minutes. 10 minutes in you know the characters, the plot, her mother's maiden name and what they had for dinner last June. This pace, in my opinion, is a good thing and I thought it would continue this way throughout. Then all of a sudden, it kind of just sticks to a standstill. Very little happens, even the ending is really underwhelming and nothing really of note happens. Between the 15 min mark and an hour all of what happened could genuinely be condensed into a single scene.
As you're watching you are waiting for THAT moment. The twist, the golden moment that makes you go "aghhh". But nothing happens, it's just really boring. You're waiting for something to go down, or even something to be said that kicks the film into gear. But no.
It also just got predictable, you knew what was going to happen in the scene and you knew what was going to happen in the next scene.
The saving grace to this film was the performances. Jessica Lange in particular played her role really well, but ultimately it's not enough to get this film going.
So yeah. Disappointed in this movie and perks ably wouldn't recommend. 4/10
- danielmanson
- Jan 6, 2021
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If you take it for what it is,a feast of camp,then this movie (and particularly Lange) is much fun to watch.Probably influenced by Davis's (see "hush hush sweet Charlotte") and Crawford's end of career ( see "straitjacket"),Jessica Lange gives an over the top performance of the bitchiest mother-in-law you can think of.Always a beaming smile on her face even when she 's at her most sadistic.Her bubble head son seems not to have overcome his Oedipus complex;when at the turning of the year,"Auld lang syne" is played,he dances with his mom.As for the wedding ,he seems to marry her. Besides,being able to lead a normal life
after what we learned from his "education" is hard to believe ;a boy like him would have normally ended up like cousin Sebastian in "Suddenly last Summer".
This extravaganza has also intellectual pretensions:in the church ,Martha keeps on reciting her act of contrition while quoting the Ruth Book in the Bible;in her troubled mind ,her unfortunate daughter-in-law becomes Ruth ,whose affection to mother-in-law Naomi reflects her own situation.
If you're not a highbrow,and if you like old-fashioned cheesy melodramas "Hush" is made for you.If you're a "pulp fiction" fan,well,please pass by.
after what we learned from his "education" is hard to believe ;a boy like him would have normally ended up like cousin Sebastian in "Suddenly last Summer".
This extravaganza has also intellectual pretensions:in the church ,Martha keeps on reciting her act of contrition while quoting the Ruth Book in the Bible;in her troubled mind ,her unfortunate daughter-in-law becomes Ruth ,whose affection to mother-in-law Naomi reflects her own situation.
If you're not a highbrow,and if you like old-fashioned cheesy melodramas "Hush" is made for you.If you're a "pulp fiction" fan,well,please pass by.
- dbdumonteil
- Jan 25, 2005
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From the low score it has got from the IMDB users, i didn't expect too much. I only watched it to see Gywneth Paltrow. Indeed, the first half of the film was not too impressive. The scenes tended to be fragmented. As more of the plot was unveiled, the film became intense and engaging. I think this film deserves slightly more points than it has got.
I agree with several other reviewers that this movie is underrated here.
It keeps your interest, especially if you like horses, and the contrast between hectic, noisy, frustrating, randomly violent, dirty, inhumane city life and the clean air and soothing charms of the "simple life" in the country (which now costs much more than most of us can afford).
I think both Jessica Lange and Gweneth Paltrow handled their roles with aplomb. Anyone who's seen Lange in "Blue Sky" with Tommy Lee Jones will not be a bit surprised at her ability to successfully carry off a full-on lunatic.
I think people may be a little put off by the happy ending from a lower budget, non-mainstream film, but what do I know?
Well, I know I liked it more than it's rated on here, and I'd recommend it to friends. A masterpiece, it isn't, but I'd consider it entertaining and worthy of your time if you like mystery/thrillers set mostly in beautiful country surroundings with good acting.
It keeps your interest, especially if you like horses, and the contrast between hectic, noisy, frustrating, randomly violent, dirty, inhumane city life and the clean air and soothing charms of the "simple life" in the country (which now costs much more than most of us can afford).
I think both Jessica Lange and Gweneth Paltrow handled their roles with aplomb. Anyone who's seen Lange in "Blue Sky" with Tommy Lee Jones will not be a bit surprised at her ability to successfully carry off a full-on lunatic.
I think people may be a little put off by the happy ending from a lower budget, non-mainstream film, but what do I know?
Well, I know I liked it more than it's rated on here, and I'd recommend it to friends. A masterpiece, it isn't, but I'd consider it entertaining and worthy of your time if you like mystery/thrillers set mostly in beautiful country surroundings with good acting.
- weasl-729-310682
- Dec 3, 2014
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I don't know whether they give Oscars for casting, but if that is the case, the person responsible for casting for this film must be at least a nominee. I'm just amazed how such established actresses as Lange and Paltrow have been agreed to take part in this 'plot is thinner than silk-paper'-film (blackmailing? ;->). Every scene is predictable and the story itself has been told thousand times. There aren't any camera-angles that make you say 'wow, nobody thought of that before' either, so the end-result is very average. I'm all too aware about the existence of bad mother-in-laws, so this one just didn't cut it for me... 3 out of 10.
Helen - Gwyneth Paltrow - and Jackson - Johnathan Schaech - are two young, great looking NYC go-getters in love. Helen is an orphan and Jackson takes his lovely gal home to meet his widowed mother Martha - Jessica Lange - at Christmas. Oh my, home turns out to be a huge horse farm in Kentucky with an enormous house. Helen is dazzled. Almost immediately, Martha gets nosy, barging into the room where Helen is sleeping. Then, Martha breaks the chain of the locket which holds her parents photos, which Helen always wears. After their brief Yuletide visit, Helen is glad to be back in the city. But, she discovers she is pregnant and suspects Martha has poked holes in her diaphram. Happily, Jackson and Helen marry on the Ky estate and dont leave, vowing to help Martha and wait for the baby. But, secrets and strange happenings mar these newlyweds first months as a married couple. Is Martha just nosy or is she plotting evil? This film has three attractive stars and a lush setting. But, the plot is lame and predictable, with few exciting moments. If you have insomnia, it might be the movie for you. But Hush is ultimately Mush.
Jonathan Darby is credited with the writing/directing of this misconceived movie. As an auteur, Mr. Darby, doesn't bring anything new to the medium. "Hush" proves to be a total waste as it appears Mr. Darby had nothing in the way to control the over the top campy performance of Jessica Lange.
Ms. Lange is at her worst as Martha, the evil mother behind all the scheming in the film. Her love for her son, and hatred for her daughter-in-law, gives the actress an opportunity to do some of the worst emoting in any film in recent memory. Gwyneth Paltrow must be questioned for her choice of material. Didn't she smell the aroma in reading the script? Oh well, let's hope she was able to ask for millions of dollars for appearing in this turkey. Jonathan Schaech doesn't fare better. Nina Foch is the only one who comes out the best in her small role of Alice, Martha's wise mother-in-law who has seen right through what's going on.
This is a film to watch with friends after having a few drinks, then one might enjoy the "masterpiece" some avid fans thought "Hush" was.
Ms. Lange is at her worst as Martha, the evil mother behind all the scheming in the film. Her love for her son, and hatred for her daughter-in-law, gives the actress an opportunity to do some of the worst emoting in any film in recent memory. Gwyneth Paltrow must be questioned for her choice of material. Didn't she smell the aroma in reading the script? Oh well, let's hope she was able to ask for millions of dollars for appearing in this turkey. Jonathan Schaech doesn't fare better. Nina Foch is the only one who comes out the best in her small role of Alice, Martha's wise mother-in-law who has seen right through what's going on.
This is a film to watch with friends after having a few drinks, then one might enjoy the "masterpiece" some avid fans thought "Hush" was.
One thing that certainly cannot be said about this movie is that it's boring. The 90s were a great decade for thrillers and this one certainly doesn't rank up there with the best of them but it's most certainly fun. Jessica Lange is pretty great in her role, acting completely insane from the get-go. Her demeanour is so off-putting you wonder why Gwyneth Paltrow's character didn't run at the first sight of her crazy eyes. The husband, as is often the case in cheap thrillers is a complete tool and so the main heroine has to overcome all the odds pretty much by herself. What the film does fairly well is that it creates genuine moments of tension. On top of that, the ending is very satisfying and the last shot is pretty good for what it is. I am in no way saying that this is a masterpiece but for those that like cheap thrillers, it hits all the right beats and leaves one fairly satisfied.
- Chance_Boudreaux19
- Dec 12, 2020
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I just rented this last weekend and it is a bomb. I am so surprised to see Jessica Lange in something like this. This was totally predictable, but nothing really ever happens. The end is pretty evil, but why didn't they build up to it? Gwyneth Paltrow was so bland, and Jonathan Schaech, who smoldered in "The Doom Generation", was even duller(keep in mind, they have very little to work with). Would you believe a baby is born, yet no one bothers to call a doctor? HELLO, plot hole. Go weed the garden, watch a dog grooming contest, ANYTHING but suffer through this one.
"Hush" is the kind of film that's so easy that it should work right on the first view but it's not the case. I remember watching it a few years ago and finding one of the most boring things I've ever seen except for the outstanding acting of Jessica Lange. Fate pulls its strings sometimes and one of those nights when you're desperate for something to show up on TV and there you go, there was this and I got a little gripped into seeing it again, this time paying more attention to details. Well, it turned out to be quite a good film, undeserving the low rating that is getting now.
A twisted and thrilling tale about acceptance and skeletons in the closet? You can say that. Gwyneth Paltrow plays the lovable Helen, a successful and beautiful woman, loved by a man who's also both of the fore-mentioned qualities, the great Jackson (Johnathon Schaech) of the powerful Baring family. But he has a mother, the surprising Martha (Jessica Lange) of whom Helen always tries to please to the best since Jackson and his mom has some strong bonds between them and she wants to be part of this quite perfect family. Habitual to flicks of the same caliber, there's secrets, tension between both women and a certain disdain the old lady feels for the younger and it's up to Helen to discover what's the problem with the Baring family. Her only great ally is Jackson's grandmother (Nina Foch, excellent), father of Martha's late husband, and keeper of some family secrets that can storm a big mess in everyone's lives.
There isn't much to be said about "Hush" except that the cast is great, even though they're not at their greatest moment. Except Lange and Foch who are brilliant, and the memorable special appearance of Hal Holbrook as the doctor. But it's Lange who steals the show playing a pitiful villain, sometimes adorable, other times really cruel but most of the time always in control of the situation. The plot should include more characters to make this more tense and less concentrated in those three main characters. The relationship between Jackson and Martha could've go to more controversial ways, cause everything seems to indicate that (the scene where he's covered in mud and she cleans him, they're like pretending it's just a silly joke. There's something going on there).
I know Jonathan Darby has directed better films (like the criminally underrated and almost forgotten "The Enemy Within" with Forest Whitaker) but what he makes here is quite good, never cheap and at the most entertaining to watch for its cast and the beautiful cinematography. 8/10
A twisted and thrilling tale about acceptance and skeletons in the closet? You can say that. Gwyneth Paltrow plays the lovable Helen, a successful and beautiful woman, loved by a man who's also both of the fore-mentioned qualities, the great Jackson (Johnathon Schaech) of the powerful Baring family. But he has a mother, the surprising Martha (Jessica Lange) of whom Helen always tries to please to the best since Jackson and his mom has some strong bonds between them and she wants to be part of this quite perfect family. Habitual to flicks of the same caliber, there's secrets, tension between both women and a certain disdain the old lady feels for the younger and it's up to Helen to discover what's the problem with the Baring family. Her only great ally is Jackson's grandmother (Nina Foch, excellent), father of Martha's late husband, and keeper of some family secrets that can storm a big mess in everyone's lives.
There isn't much to be said about "Hush" except that the cast is great, even though they're not at their greatest moment. Except Lange and Foch who are brilliant, and the memorable special appearance of Hal Holbrook as the doctor. But it's Lange who steals the show playing a pitiful villain, sometimes adorable, other times really cruel but most of the time always in control of the situation. The plot should include more characters to make this more tense and less concentrated in those three main characters. The relationship between Jackson and Martha could've go to more controversial ways, cause everything seems to indicate that (the scene where he's covered in mud and she cleans him, they're like pretending it's just a silly joke. There's something going on there).
I know Jonathan Darby has directed better films (like the criminally underrated and almost forgotten "The Enemy Within" with Forest Whitaker) but what he makes here is quite good, never cheap and at the most entertaining to watch for its cast and the beautiful cinematography. 8/10
- Rodrigo_Amaro
- Sep 28, 2012
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The trailer for "Hush" was one of the most enticing of the 1998 season and i was very intrigued by the film, but watching it proved one of those theories that what you see in the trailer is not what you get in the movie, many scenes from the trailer such as a climatic fire are missing and the ending seems tacked on, however the film doesn't fully fail and has some interesting moments and the cinematography is very worthy. Jessica Lange, Gwyneth Paltrow and Jonathon Scaech are all good actors and do well, but this film could have been better and it shows that post production problems were evident in the film.
Jackson Baring (Johnathon Schaech) brings his girlfriend Helen (Gwyneth Paltrow) home to meet his mother Martha (Jessica Lange). They're a couple of New Yorkers and Martha is alone in the big family estate. She wants his son to be home and she has a devious plan. Soon after the visit, Helen finds herself pregnant. Jackson proposes to her and they have a wedding back at the family estate. After a masked intruder terrorizes Helen, they decide to leave NYC and go back to the horse farm to help his mother fix it up.
This starts off too slowly. It's a lot of fake interaction that telegraphs where the movie is inevitably going. It is both predictable and boring. It improves slightly after the very long setup and the couple starts living with the mother. Jessica Lange deteriorates into a caricature. The husband is a ridiculous fool. The last 15 minutes is badly written. It's begging to end with a bang, but the movie ends with a whimper. It's really silly to end it in that way. It's simply a weak effort from writer/director Jonathan Darby.
This starts off too slowly. It's a lot of fake interaction that telegraphs where the movie is inevitably going. It is both predictable and boring. It improves slightly after the very long setup and the couple starts living with the mother. Jessica Lange deteriorates into a caricature. The husband is a ridiculous fool. The last 15 minutes is badly written. It's begging to end with a bang, but the movie ends with a whimper. It's really silly to end it in that way. It's simply a weak effort from writer/director Jonathan Darby.
- SnoopyStyle
- Jun 19, 2014
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Jackson Baring takes his girlfriend Helen to his family's horse farm Kilronin. Jackson's mother Martha has been running the place but would like her son to take over. Jackson and Helen are living together in New York City and are reluctant to leave that life. But Helen somehow gets pregnant, even though she was using birth control, and the two get married and eventually do take over the farm.
Jackson blames himself for his father's death when he was 7. Martha knows the truth but won't tell him, and she seems to have an unnatural relationship with her son. It's almost as if she sees his father and wants to be with him in that way. And she sees the baby as a means of continuing the legacy, but not a child to be loved, at least not in the way most people would. Her treatment of Helen is strange, as if Helen is only useful until the baby is born, and then she will be in the way.
The ending is exciting and sort of creepy at the same time.
Jessica Lange does a fine job here as Jackson's overly controlling and demented mother. However, Nina Foch gives the standout performance as Jackson's grandmother, who is kept in a fancy nursing home because only she knows the truth about how her son died.
I think all the leading actors did a good job here. I usually can't stand Debi Mazar, who was a co-worker to Helen and possibly her boss, but I would like to have seen more of her here. But if Helen had to move out of New York, I guess keeping her job was out of the question.
I suppose my favorite scene was the one where Helen gets out of bed naked and meets her mother-in-law for the first time. That one was edited for TV in such a way it seemed kind of jerky and I didn't get to see much, but a lot depends on how one sees this movie.
It's not typical of what I like in a movie, but still entertaining.
Jackson blames himself for his father's death when he was 7. Martha knows the truth but won't tell him, and she seems to have an unnatural relationship with her son. It's almost as if she sees his father and wants to be with him in that way. And she sees the baby as a means of continuing the legacy, but not a child to be loved, at least not in the way most people would. Her treatment of Helen is strange, as if Helen is only useful until the baby is born, and then she will be in the way.
The ending is exciting and sort of creepy at the same time.
Jessica Lange does a fine job here as Jackson's overly controlling and demented mother. However, Nina Foch gives the standout performance as Jackson's grandmother, who is kept in a fancy nursing home because only she knows the truth about how her son died.
I think all the leading actors did a good job here. I usually can't stand Debi Mazar, who was a co-worker to Helen and possibly her boss, but I would like to have seen more of her here. But if Helen had to move out of New York, I guess keeping her job was out of the question.
I suppose my favorite scene was the one where Helen gets out of bed naked and meets her mother-in-law for the first time. That one was edited for TV in such a way it seemed kind of jerky and I didn't get to see much, but a lot depends on how one sees this movie.
It's not typical of what I like in a movie, but still entertaining.
- vchimpanzee
- Aug 15, 2007
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Call her campy if you want to, but the fact remains that Jessica Lange, even in a bad day, still easily out-acts the ever-smug Paltrow and the lifeless Schaech; those two bring almost no personality to their roles, and their affair seems to be having nothing going for it besides sex. As for the film itself, it is rather slack for a thriller, with poor continuity and an awkward ending; certainly the fact that filmed scenes weren't included in the final cut didn't help matters at all. But it is smoothly directed and not quite as bad as its reputation suggests. (**1/2)
Yeah, this is a late entry in that psycho-thriller sub-genre of the early 1990s, and the second you discover that the film sat on the shelf for two years before release you know it's going to be a stinker. When actress Jessica Lange herself described it in less than complimentary terms the instinct is to hurl it onto the fire and get as far away as possible.
Nevertheless, I sat through this in its entirety, glutton for punishment as I am. And it's a weak thriller for sure, in which the thrills are non-existent and the plot is even more laboured than Gwyneth Paltrow's character. Basically, she meets and falls for the perfect guy, falls pregnant and marries him, only to discover that her new mother-in-law holds more than a few dark secrets and is already obsessed with the unborn child.
The feel of the movie has more in common with a lukewarm TV movie of the era than a theatrical film and indeed there's very little of interest here. Most of the film relies on acting from a very average Paltrow to get by, and her protagonist is hardly a sympathetic one. Lange is better, channelling some of the energy of the grand old matriarch psychos (think Joan Crawford in WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY JANE?), but her performance alone does not a good film make.
Nevertheless, I sat through this in its entirety, glutton for punishment as I am. And it's a weak thriller for sure, in which the thrills are non-existent and the plot is even more laboured than Gwyneth Paltrow's character. Basically, she meets and falls for the perfect guy, falls pregnant and marries him, only to discover that her new mother-in-law holds more than a few dark secrets and is already obsessed with the unborn child.
The feel of the movie has more in common with a lukewarm TV movie of the era than a theatrical film and indeed there's very little of interest here. Most of the film relies on acting from a very average Paltrow to get by, and her protagonist is hardly a sympathetic one. Lange is better, channelling some of the energy of the grand old matriarch psychos (think Joan Crawford in WHATEVER HAPPENED TO BABY JANE?), but her performance alone does not a good film make.
- Leofwine_draca
- Apr 26, 2015
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True, the ending was lacking in continuity, and left one with a sense of disappointment, but my husband and I rather enjoyed this movie.Contrary to other comments below, Jessica Lange and Johnathon Schaech did fine jobs! Lange was very convincing as the mother-in-law from hell. There were times when it seemed like scenes had been cut because things didn't make sense, but it wasn't too hard to ignore that and fill in the blanks ourselves. Nothing great, but amusing to watch.
"Hush" is a Drama - Thriller movie in which we watch a couple going to get married and live with the man's mother in a farm despite that they both have jobs and an apartment in NYC. They decide also to make some changes to the farm in order to sell it at a higher price but the man's mother acts weird and everything change when they start living all together.
I have to admit that I didn't have high expectations from this movie and that's the reason why I wasn't disappointed by it. It's an average to below average movie made with low budget and had very few good scenes, no suspense and mediocre interpretations made by its cast. I don't recommend anyone to watch this movie because I believe that you are going to waste your time watching it.
I have to admit that I didn't have high expectations from this movie and that's the reason why I wasn't disappointed by it. It's an average to below average movie made with low budget and had very few good scenes, no suspense and mediocre interpretations made by its cast. I don't recommend anyone to watch this movie because I believe that you are going to waste your time watching it.
- Thanos_Alfie
- Mar 15, 2020
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In the mood for a creepy thriller about an interfering mother-in-law? Those movies are always fun, aren't they? No one likes their mother-in-law!
In this one, Gwyneth Paltrow and Johnathon Schaech are living together in New York, happy and in love and reaching the stage of meeting the parents. It's an important stage, one that can often break couples up. You know the old adage of marrying a man's entire family! So, when the happy couple travel to his ranch and meet his mother, Jessica Lange, they just not find their happily ever after. Jessica appears to be sweet and nice, but she has an undercurrent of bad intentions towards Gwyneth. . .
If you liked this movie, the good news is both leading ladies made other thrillers for you to rent during next movie night. Love Gwyneth? Try A Perfect Murder next weekend. Love Jessica? Check out Cape Fear!
In this one, Gwyneth Paltrow and Johnathon Schaech are living together in New York, happy and in love and reaching the stage of meeting the parents. It's an important stage, one that can often break couples up. You know the old adage of marrying a man's entire family! So, when the happy couple travel to his ranch and meet his mother, Jessica Lange, they just not find their happily ever after. Jessica appears to be sweet and nice, but she has an undercurrent of bad intentions towards Gwyneth. . .
If you liked this movie, the good news is both leading ladies made other thrillers for you to rent during next movie night. Love Gwyneth? Try A Perfect Murder next weekend. Love Jessica? Check out Cape Fear!
- HotToastyRag
- Oct 2, 2020
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- JasparLamarCrabb
- Nov 19, 2010
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I am quite frankly astonished by the low imdb average for this film. I thought it was a more than respectable suspense thriller. It definitely kept me riveted throughout. Gwenyth Paltrow, who was offered Kate Winslet's part in Titanic at the time she committed to this project, devles into her role as the unsuspecting fiancee with grace and down to earth affability. But this is clearly Jessica Lange's film. Her psychotic mother-in-law is one of the most disturbing characters I have come across in any film. In my opinion this film rates an 8/10.
- perfectbond
- Mar 3, 2003
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Hush (1998) is a thriller about a new mother in law who's hiding a dark secret. It stars Jessica Lange, Gwyneth Paltrow, and Johnathon Schaech.
I love thrillers and mysteries, especially when it features actors and actresses I like. I am a big Lange and Paltrow fan, they are both great actresses. They turn in fine performances here, to be honest Jessica Lange is the best part. If the cast had been different I'm not sure I would've liked this film at all. It does have flaws, the writing is average at best and it's not the most exciting thriller to watch.
I'm only giving Hush a 7/10 because of how much I enjoyed the performances. I was disappointed by the script, I thought it had a lot more potential. The potential wasn't completed wasted, but a good bit of it was and it could've been a lot better.
I love thrillers and mysteries, especially when it features actors and actresses I like. I am a big Lange and Paltrow fan, they are both great actresses. They turn in fine performances here, to be honest Jessica Lange is the best part. If the cast had been different I'm not sure I would've liked this film at all. It does have flaws, the writing is average at best and it's not the most exciting thriller to watch.
I'm only giving Hush a 7/10 because of how much I enjoyed the performances. I was disappointed by the script, I thought it had a lot more potential. The potential wasn't completed wasted, but a good bit of it was and it could've been a lot better.
- davispittman
- Apr 17, 2018
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This is one of those films that frustrates you. The mother gets away with everything and everyone else is an idiot. Don't bother.
- redwoodsteve
- Jul 30, 2020
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