12 reviews
- isaias adames
- Apr 27, 2001
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Don't get me wrong, I liked Lola + Bilidikid. But I think it could have been a lot better. I find that the movie is not always very convincing. Yes, you're troubled and disturbed by the movie but you're left with a sour taste. What I liked the most was the way that the movie shows the daily life of the gay culture in Berlin and the difficult integration of the immigrants in the modern Germany.
7 out of 10.
7 out of 10.
- LeRoyMarko
- Mar 28, 2001
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I was disappointed in this film after reading the other comments here and thought I should add my own.
This movie may be an accurate depiction of what life in Berlin for gay Turks is like but it is on the whole a depressing movie. Perhaps Germany is still at this point, but this movie has many of the overtones of the self loathing gay movies that were prevalent in this country in the 50's and 60's. Others have said that there are touches of West Side Story and Rebel Without a Cause about this movie but those weren't exactly feel good movies either.
A few more moments spent on the nascent relationship between Murat and the waif-like German boy that he meets could have made all the difference.
Ah well I've always been a romantic.
This movie may be an accurate depiction of what life in Berlin for gay Turks is like but it is on the whole a depressing movie. Perhaps Germany is still at this point, but this movie has many of the overtones of the self loathing gay movies that were prevalent in this country in the 50's and 60's. Others have said that there are touches of West Side Story and Rebel Without a Cause about this movie but those weren't exactly feel good movies either.
A few more moments spent on the nascent relationship between Murat and the waif-like German boy that he meets could have made all the difference.
Ah well I've always been a romantic.
- Havan_IronOak
- Jul 15, 2001
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As a German-American, this movie smashed me between the eyes on several different levels. First of all, the acting, casting, directing, cinematography, editing, all superb.
This amazing film takes on huge cultural issues and taboos that neither the Germans or their Turkish "guests" really want to face. Culture clash is brutally and honestly portrayed, not only between the two nationalities, but within the cultures as well. The beautiful gay Turk who cannot accept himself, the questioning, sensitive (and beautiful) gay boy trying to find himself and the truth of his family, the wonderfully portrayed German Aristocrat and his oh so proper mother, the gay Aryan boy struggling to prove himself to his thug friends, all combine to make a complex and enthralling film. The script is intriguing and contains many surprises. The strength of character that most of the gay players (the drag queens and Murat especially) exhibit is inspiring. The style of the film is dark and disturbing, showing an aspect of the new Germany that you won't see in any travel brochures.
Raw emotion has rarely been portrayed so effectively on screen.
I am puzzled that this movie has not made a bigger splash worldwide. Rent this film! Go to the Theatre now!
This amazing film takes on huge cultural issues and taboos that neither the Germans or their Turkish "guests" really want to face. Culture clash is brutally and honestly portrayed, not only between the two nationalities, but within the cultures as well. The beautiful gay Turk who cannot accept himself, the questioning, sensitive (and beautiful) gay boy trying to find himself and the truth of his family, the wonderfully portrayed German Aristocrat and his oh so proper mother, the gay Aryan boy struggling to prove himself to his thug friends, all combine to make a complex and enthralling film. The script is intriguing and contains many surprises. The strength of character that most of the gay players (the drag queens and Murat especially) exhibit is inspiring. The style of the film is dark and disturbing, showing an aspect of the new Germany that you won't see in any travel brochures.
Raw emotion has rarely been portrayed so effectively on screen.
I am puzzled that this movie has not made a bigger splash worldwide. Rent this film! Go to the Theatre now!
- warchild63
- Feb 25, 2000
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Lola + Bilidikid (Lola and Billy the Kid) written and directed by the dynamic E. Kutlug Ataman is an immensely interesting view of the lives of Turks in Berlin. The many characters introduced at a seemingly random fashion all are woven in the loom of Ataman, becoming one connected tapestry of ethnic clashes, humor, drama, and intensely moving views of family and love. From the quiet moments at the beginning to the unexpected ending this film dazzles with color, music, highly developed character development by some fine actors, and edge of the seat tension.
The Turkish subculture in Berlin is the hotbed for trouble between Turks and Germans. Add to this setting the fact that the film deals with the taboos of gay life, transgender and transvestite men, and the concomitant stresses of families who deal with these issues on a daily basis and the result is a film full of richly detailed stories.
Lola (Gandi Mukli), a Turkish drag queen has a lover Billy the Kid (Erdal Yildiz), a macho, closeted Turk who views his role as the Man and Lola as the woman and encourages Lola to have gender altering surgery so they can live as husband and wife back in Turkey. Murat (Baki Davrak) is Lola's baby brother, also gay, living with his mother and older brother, Osman (Hasan Ali Mete) who disowned Lola for his proclivities. After 15 years Lola returns home to demand his inheritance share to proceed with his sex change and reunites with Murat eventually revealing murky family secrets: the results are tragic to all involved. This is the main story of the film. But there are many others! There is a fascinating relationship between another Turk Iskender (Murat Yilmaz) who is picked up by an older elegant German Friedrich (Michael Gerber) whose affair meets with challenges from his aged but grand mother Ute (a marvelous Inge Keller!). And there is the gay bashing drama between young German lads and the Turks which instead of being simply an evil tragedy is a character study of why gay bashing occurs: the main perpetrator is ambivalent about his own sexuality and the way this story plays out is both gruesome and heartbreaking.
Yes, there are other side stories but suffice it to say that Ataman has created a film mesmerizing in content and production. It is one of those films that pleads to be watched again after the various stories have been told: knowledge of the ending events is yet more potent the second time around. Recommended for lovers of art films. In German with subtitles. Grady Harp
The Turkish subculture in Berlin is the hotbed for trouble between Turks and Germans. Add to this setting the fact that the film deals with the taboos of gay life, transgender and transvestite men, and the concomitant stresses of families who deal with these issues on a daily basis and the result is a film full of richly detailed stories.
Lola (Gandi Mukli), a Turkish drag queen has a lover Billy the Kid (Erdal Yildiz), a macho, closeted Turk who views his role as the Man and Lola as the woman and encourages Lola to have gender altering surgery so they can live as husband and wife back in Turkey. Murat (Baki Davrak) is Lola's baby brother, also gay, living with his mother and older brother, Osman (Hasan Ali Mete) who disowned Lola for his proclivities. After 15 years Lola returns home to demand his inheritance share to proceed with his sex change and reunites with Murat eventually revealing murky family secrets: the results are tragic to all involved. This is the main story of the film. But there are many others! There is a fascinating relationship between another Turk Iskender (Murat Yilmaz) who is picked up by an older elegant German Friedrich (Michael Gerber) whose affair meets with challenges from his aged but grand mother Ute (a marvelous Inge Keller!). And there is the gay bashing drama between young German lads and the Turks which instead of being simply an evil tragedy is a character study of why gay bashing occurs: the main perpetrator is ambivalent about his own sexuality and the way this story plays out is both gruesome and heartbreaking.
Yes, there are other side stories but suffice it to say that Ataman has created a film mesmerizing in content and production. It is one of those films that pleads to be watched again after the various stories have been told: knowledge of the ending events is yet more potent the second time around. Recommended for lovers of art films. In German with subtitles. Grady Harp
Lola Und Bilidikid is a great success in terms of cinematography and storytelling; and dealing a little more with the friendship/relationship of Murat and the German boy, it could have very well been a masterpiece.
There's enough trouble between the Turks, at least the ultra-traditional Turks, and Germans in Germany. And watching this movie, you see how it gets a million times worse when one or more of the parties involved belong to an extraordinary walk of life in addition to being sided.
In fact this movie features quite a few stories at once, but doesn't lose the viewer since they're all related in some way, or the director has successfully managed to make them somehow related without losing out the plot. All the relationships, especially the one between Murat and his revolting brother Osman, and the one between the German gay guy and Iskender, are really well put. And the tiniest detail on the movie isn't missed. Even the little scene with the hooker is well done.
If you're a Hollywood enthusiast, leave this movie aside. You'll think it's sick and boring. But if you like good movies made with some feelings and culture rather than expensive effects, and those dealing with tender social issues, then you'll absolutely love it! It's only for those who can take heavy stuff, and have a good taste on cinema.
9/10 for Lola Und Bilidikid.
There's enough trouble between the Turks, at least the ultra-traditional Turks, and Germans in Germany. And watching this movie, you see how it gets a million times worse when one or more of the parties involved belong to an extraordinary walk of life in addition to being sided.
In fact this movie features quite a few stories at once, but doesn't lose the viewer since they're all related in some way, or the director has successfully managed to make them somehow related without losing out the plot. All the relationships, especially the one between Murat and his revolting brother Osman, and the one between the German gay guy and Iskender, are really well put. And the tiniest detail on the movie isn't missed. Even the little scene with the hooker is well done.
If you're a Hollywood enthusiast, leave this movie aside. You'll think it's sick and boring. But if you like good movies made with some feelings and culture rather than expensive effects, and those dealing with tender social issues, then you'll absolutely love it! It's only for those who can take heavy stuff, and have a good taste on cinema.
9/10 for Lola Und Bilidikid.
- Exiled_Archangel
- Oct 28, 2003
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Excinting labyrinth of desires, illusions and freedom's skin. Exploration of ambiguous universe and many questions about facts, gestures or games without end. Fall from artificial paradises and slices of original silence. Bones of old wars and innocence of long expectation.
It is a cruel trip in a harsh way of life. Expresion of special search and everyday lost. It is interesting the relation of characters with Turkish memories. The image of run, the limits of refuge, the routine and the dialogs, the touch of disappointed and the hope of a chimeric future.
In fact, the atmosphere of "Lola + Bilidikid" is the same like in latest Romanians movies ("Stare de fapt", "Marfa si banii", "Pepe si Fifi", Prea tarziu", "Terminus Paradis"). Same moral crisis, same disillusion, same stupid games, same torpor.
But the essence of film is the search of Murat. Hero of Dostoievsky, he lives beyond the secrets or lies. He is projection of his personal discoveries and for him the dreams are more that fiction. He hopes.
It is a cruel trip in a harsh way of life. Expresion of special search and everyday lost. It is interesting the relation of characters with Turkish memories. The image of run, the limits of refuge, the routine and the dialogs, the touch of disappointed and the hope of a chimeric future.
In fact, the atmosphere of "Lola + Bilidikid" is the same like in latest Romanians movies ("Stare de fapt", "Marfa si banii", "Pepe si Fifi", Prea tarziu", "Terminus Paradis"). Same moral crisis, same disillusion, same stupid games, same torpor.
But the essence of film is the search of Murat. Hero of Dostoievsky, he lives beyond the secrets or lies. He is projection of his personal discoveries and for him the dreams are more that fiction. He hopes.
Does anyone really need to see movies with gratuitous violence (a gay pimp cutting off a straight boy's genitals) or incest? The writer combined too many story threads trying to create a real shocker. This movie is terrble and truly a waste of money.
I'm not one for plot summaries; so I will get right to the point. Find this movie. Whatever you do...just find it! Beautifully photographed, excellently acted, brilliantly directed, "Lola and Billy the Kid" (U.S. video release title) is a deeply affecting movie that gives us a rare glimpse into the gay-Turkish subculture of modern Berlin and introduces us to characters who -- though they may be far removed from ourselves -- are heartbreakingly real, utterly dynamic, and upliftingly human. The Suddendeutche Zeitung said this movie "has a touch of West Side Story and a pinch of Rebel Without a Cause." It is a very accurate statement. As one who tries to see every gay-themed film out there, I can honestly say that Lola jumps to the top of the list... a well-crafted, brilliant piece of filmmaking that is not only one of the best gay-themed films I've see, but also one of the best films of any genre I've come across. Like "My Beautiful Laundrette," Lola made me laugh, made me cry, and made me want to know more about the subculture and racial dynamics it represents.
Love, death, hatred, romance, fierce drag queens, coming out stories, underground club scenes... You'll smile, laugh and cry during this beautiful movie set in the Turkish Ghetto in Berlin.
This film accomplishes what it sets out to do, and it does so in a beautiful way. Not everyone can know what it feels like to be Turkish in Germany, and this movie communicates that feeling without sacrificing the feeling of being within the lives of the people it's about. Why do so few films achieve this?
Within its specificity, you also discover its universality. How many immigrants of color (from all over the world) in white-dominated countries (all over the world) will see something of themselves in this film? This film has the feel of a classic.
I know some people may feel the film is too depressing, or too dependent on gratuitous violence and on queer stereotypes that many of us may want to push into the past. Maybe we can reflect on the possibility that the stereotypes we may want to avoid aren't really a thing of the past, and the depression and violence the film refers to is quite real and current.
Within its specificity, you also discover its universality. How many immigrants of color (from all over the world) in white-dominated countries (all over the world) will see something of themselves in this film? This film has the feel of a classic.
I know some people may feel the film is too depressing, or too dependent on gratuitous violence and on queer stereotypes that many of us may want to push into the past. Maybe we can reflect on the possibility that the stereotypes we may want to avoid aren't really a thing of the past, and the depression and violence the film refers to is quite real and current.
- michaelmorton22
- Feb 23, 2011
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- tunaandmaple
- Dec 10, 2008
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