Dragons' Den

Unlike The Apprentice, the Dragons have moved on in the internet world of Influences. Alan Sugar has not, he doesn't even know what an influencer is, insists on suit, (who wears a tie nowerdays? I would go on in ripped jeans, converse all-stars and a Pixies t shirt just to wind him up!) Occasionally we get a good deal, the dragons fighting each other. My question would be, if this show has been going for 20 years, how many companies, looking for support do they have now, hundreds? They must be spreading themselves very thinly, even just through one series. I suspect they are palmed-off to other staff once the deal is made, because there is no way the dragons could manage all the companies the have a stake in.

We are hardly ever told about how these companies are performing 1,5,10 years on. Reggae Reggae sauce by Levi Roots is probably the only one I remember- because I see it in the supermarket.

They could do with a companion show +5 years to see how each company progressed with honest feedback as to the support they received.

They are lowballed into giving away huge shares of their company, did they do it, did they escape the Dragons, did they fail? How was their experience once they got in the lift, the adrenaline had worn off and they realised they have sold their soul.

Thoroughly enjoyed it. I've just started watching from season 19 onwards. Was into shark tank for a couple of months saw a DD clip on YT; Peter jones was on a whole other level compared to the sharks; switched to DD after that. Peter Jones, Deborah Meadon, Duncan Bannatyne are truly dragons on the show. Like the 3 dragons from GOT.

Totally savage and ruthless. The entrepreneurs get a thorough roasting from the dragons though some escape with a light grilling and some get the dream investor/s they were hoping for. Brilliant in terms of entertainment plus you get insight into the business world. Very interesting to watch. British dry humour at its best 👍💯

There is drastic change from season 1 to 19 in the setting, dragons attitude and demeanor, humour and of course the dragons themselves (with the exception of den legends Deborah Meadon and Peter Jones). The dragon savagery has gone down sadly but there's a nice vibe on the den.

Season 19 has a great lineup of dragons. There's 2 younger dragons Sara davies and Steven Bartlett who bring a fresh perspective to the show. Theres the older more experienced dragons like Deborah Meadon, Touker Suleiman, Peter Jones all who are well established in the business world with diverse portfolios and rolling in cash. Experience of decades combined with new perspective and ideas.... The perfect combination for a good business.

A word of advice if you're just watching clips on YT know that each pitch takes nearly 1.5 hours to film, so many parts are edited out.

Evan Davis flitters around the set of Dragons Den like a daddy longlegs that has run into a light. Aside from being visually annoying he only seems to be there to tell you things you just saw, are going to see or they didn't have time to show you because of him talking. If that wasn't enough filler for you he has a nice line in generalisations too like "it takes nerves of steel to face the dragons" or "all of todays entrepreneurs are hoping for an investment".

If you ever thought millions of pounds would make you instantly happy take a look at the panel. You've got nervy Deborah Meaden scowling at proceedings while a waxy Duncan Ballentine appears at times to be worked by Peter Jones by way of a lever or something. Kelly Hoppen would be a good investor to work with if you need advice on what shade of brown to paint something but beyond that her presence on the show is mystifying. She's certainly not going to spend any cash and the cameraman seems obsessed with getting shots of her nose. I also feel my lifeforce draining away every time she starts droning on about design.

I do love the show though. Seeing the nonsense people come up with is interesting but you can't help but feel sorry for the ones that have invested their life's savings in an invention that's doomed.

A group of self-made millionaires sit on a panel with individual stacks of their own money at their disposal. One by one, inventors, small businesses, entrepreneurs and the occasional nut come to the panel to pitch an investment opportunity to them. As the Dragons get their teeth into the potential and the detail of the offer, some are rejected, some are talked down to a compromise deal and some have the dragons fighting over them.

I watched this the other week because the Guardian often has pieces that refer to it, saying how much fun it is. OK so it is another form of reality show but the business element offered the potential that it would be not just another show where a panel tears a strip out of happy-go-lucky members of the public. After watching one or two episodes though I found it vaguely interesting but a lot less entertaining and engaging than I had hoped. In a way it is interesting to see the ideas (good and bad) paraded in front of the panel and occasionally I find the debate and questioning enjoyable. However too often it is tiresome and obvious with the panellists milking their "tough edge" too much and saying more than needs to be said without actually adding much value to the show. It isn't all their fault though because the show also feels very, very padded to try and make it to the hour running time.

So we get recaps of stuff we only saw a few minutes ago and lots of reaction shots from the "Dragons" that clearly are inserted out of context to try and up the drama. Having Evan Davis wittering on doesn't help either; regularly we have a section where one of the Dragons reject a project because the maths don't stand up, only for it to be followed by Davis narrating "the Dragons' have rejected the project because the maths don't stand up" – as if somehow the audience zoned out for a second there. I didn't like the way he had to keep calling them "Dragons" either, maybe you get used to it but it just sounded funny to me. The "contestants" are mostly worthy but perhaps not worthy enough to get the cash, some are idiots and these are scattered across the show to keep things lively for the audience who want blood as much as triumph. The panellists are so-so but are too tempted to play to caricature and not be "people". I watched some of the most recent series and it seemed to have be happening more and more with some of them.

Overall then a reasonably interesting reality show but one that is padded and a bit too forced on regular occasions. I can see why some viewers like it but for me it was too little of interest spread thinly over too long a running time.

Dragon's Den is a welcome relief in the constant scheduling of the usual type of reality show where people generally people sit around whining and/or swearing for no apparent purpose. The idea is that contestants come to a panel of five 'dragons' (highly successful business people) with a project or concept that they hope to get some investment in. The programme focuses on the business pitch and the reaction of the 'dragons'. It is a strong concept, offering an insight into the way that companies start up and hopefully encourages talented individuals into taking the plunge and setting up for themselves, a class of people that the UK lacks at the moment.

However it keeps in the cruelty that the British are so fond of (how else could someone like Simon Cowell become so popular?). Much of the berating is deserved as some contenders try to get hundreds of thousands of pounds for a small fraction of their tiny company whilst being completely clueless about such simple things as their turnover or net profit, but it often comes across as arrogant rich people ridiculing the dreams of ambitious entrepreneurs. The ridiculous nature of some of the products suggests that either screening applicants was limited or they were let through just for the dubious entertainment value of 'the Dragons' making fun of them. The comments are often unnecessarily barbed instead of constructive, and while this is defended as 'cruel to be kind' frequently it sounds more like the panel are trying to outdo each other to get themselves on the trailer. Some of the panel appear a lot more helpful than others, like Richard Farleigh who usually had some good advice for the contestants who were unsuccessful, while Theo Paphitis comes across as the most shrewd of the bunch.

Apparently Peter Jones is leaving which is not much of a loss as recently he has seemed more interested in boosting his ego and trying to be funny than investing - shame he is about as amusing as a documentary about the Holocaust. Lately also the panel seems to be extremely cautious, almost always refusing to take on a project by themselves, instead trying to get a partnership with another Dragon, which takes away from their supposedly bold entrepreneurial nature. The programme has also declined in quality recently due to the editing which allows you to predict which ideas will get investment by the running order and removes most of the tension. The annoyingly insistent commentary by Evan Davis repeating the rules of show and everything that has just gone on in the show also detracts from the viewer's enjoyment.