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Watched both the parts together. I have no clue how my brain is functioning properly.
Positives : CGI, Costume Design, Cinematography Negatives : Pretty much everything else. Script/ Story made no sense. Seems like a high school kid wrote it. Expected better from Snyder.
Dialogues are trash Acting is non-existent. Even the most emotional scenes are laughable
It is just like an old western where a group of people band together to fight a common enemy except this movie tales place in space. The movie added nothing new just copy pasted the stale idea. I am not sure why Zack was so excited for this movie. The first part was watchable (it sucked) but the 2nd part made no sense.
Watch it only if you have time and brain cells to kill.
Positives : CGI, Costume Design, Cinematography Negatives : Pretty much everything else. Script/ Story made no sense. Seems like a high school kid wrote it. Expected better from Snyder.
Dialogues are trash Acting is non-existent. Even the most emotional scenes are laughable
It is just like an old western where a group of people band together to fight a common enemy except this movie tales place in space. The movie added nothing new just copy pasted the stale idea. I am not sure why Zack was so excited for this movie. The first part was watchable (it sucked) but the 2nd part made no sense.
Watch it only if you have time and brain cells to kill.
- hardikb-43768
- Apr 20, 2024
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- SithHunter
- Apr 18, 2024
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I so wanted to be positive about it but it is so bad. The budget has been blown on special effects and no script. It's like one of those rip off B movies you get on the free to view movie channels. I just don't understand why it was made. The Creator and both the recent Godzilla films are far superior to this. The only reason I am giving this a 4 is for some of the special effects and action scenes- the acting is so wooden especially when they tell each other about their pasts. Part 1 is superior but I would stil only give it 5 as it at least attempts a Magnificent 7 in space type film. This was just a waste of space.
I thought Part One of Rebel Moon was horrible, but Part Two literally said, "Hold my beer!" -- and then proceeded to do the impossible! Take millions of dollars in budget, hire the best special effects artists, great actors, and commence to shoot a "movie" with the most ill-conceived, disjointed, illogical, and atrociously paced "storyline" imaginable!
I'm the biggest Star Wars fan ever, and after reading Rebel Moon was originally meant to be a Star Wars project, I thought this would be at least somewhat watchable. I really wanted to like these two movies!
But this was the laziest, nonsensical "writing" I've ever seen in my life! It's rare for me to literally HATE a movie, but this one definitely falls into that category! Why? Because the movie is INSULTING! Insulting because there are great writers and filmmakers out there worth their weight in gold, but "Hollywood" instead keeps giving millions to this Zack Snyder hack to keep churning out crap fest after crap fest!
No wonder Hollywood is in trouble! It's run by MORONS!
I'm the biggest Star Wars fan ever, and after reading Rebel Moon was originally meant to be a Star Wars project, I thought this would be at least somewhat watchable. I really wanted to like these two movies!
But this was the laziest, nonsensical "writing" I've ever seen in my life! It's rare for me to literally HATE a movie, but this one definitely falls into that category! Why? Because the movie is INSULTING! Insulting because there are great writers and filmmakers out there worth their weight in gold, but "Hollywood" instead keeps giving millions to this Zack Snyder hack to keep churning out crap fest after crap fest!
No wonder Hollywood is in trouble! It's run by MORONS!
- GCM_Gentry
- Apr 23, 2024
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In a world where mankind travels in spaceships next to black holes, a bunch of people and animals dragging a spaceship around must be the lowest point of the movie.
Story is total trash. Didn't make sense from the first part. Ain't getting better in the second.
Characters are totally unrelatable. Their backstories and motivations complete nonsense, irrelevant and told in a very boring manner.
The dialogues are so cringe and bland it makes you turn off the volume.
And how easy it must be to make a 2 hours movie when 70% of it is slow motion.
How can you have a carriage that floats on thin area, but needs a horse like animal to drag it around?
Story is total trash. Didn't make sense from the first part. Ain't getting better in the second.
Characters are totally unrelatable. Their backstories and motivations complete nonsense, irrelevant and told in a very boring manner.
The dialogues are so cringe and bland it makes you turn off the volume.
And how easy it must be to make a 2 hours movie when 70% of it is slow motion.
How can you have a carriage that floats on thin area, but needs a horse like animal to drag it around?
- miky-199-790837
- Apr 18, 2024
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The Snyder trademarks are all here in abundance - endless slo-mo, rousing vocal score, long close ups etc. The cliched and uninteresting characters also dominate the proceedings - it's very hard to care about anyone here.
The second half is basically one big battle, which is actually well done - the action is frenetic and realistic for the most part and looks more real than most of Snyder's back catalogue. It's a shame that the first half is so dull and silly, with a forced back story scene where the main characters basically retell their lives in cheesy flashbacks taking up a ridiculous amount of time.
It's worth watching for the visuals and action, but don't expect much more.
The second half is basically one big battle, which is actually well done - the action is frenetic and realistic for the most part and looks more real than most of Snyder's back catalogue. It's a shame that the first half is so dull and silly, with a forced back story scene where the main characters basically retell their lives in cheesy flashbacks taking up a ridiculous amount of time.
It's worth watching for the visuals and action, but don't expect much more.
In my review for Child of Fire I said it felt like a 2 hour trailer for this movie. I don't know how this managed to be even more dull and boring than that one.
The script is so bad, the small amount of dialogue it has is insufferable, the pacing is so bad, it makes an already boring movie even worse. There's a part of the movie that is, montage, small bit of normal scene, more montage, another small bit of normal scene. It's hard to get through.
The relationship between the main team is almost nonexistent. You made a whole movie about them meeting, and in the second movie, they still barely talk with each other. In the final battle one of them tells another, "If I must die" and the other says "together" and it's genuinely the first time they spoke with each other.
The exposition is done so horribly. There's literally a scene where they go around a table and each of them does a summary of their origin story, as it's shown in flashbacks. And when most of them are done, one of them actually says "What about you? You haven't told your story".
Final battle has some nice sequences, but it's filled with just overdramatised moments of sacrifice and death, because these characters are basically cardboard.
There are some cool shots, some with the robot Jimmy, but that's all they are, shots that look cool. 0 significance, because we barely see him in the damn movie. And to finish the fight comes that Rebellion that was shown for like 5 minutes in the first movie? Yeah, the guy with the face paint. They just appear. No idea who called them, idk how they knew there was a fight, they just show up. Idk if I missed the part where they were called, because by then I was half asleep.
Then obviously there's set up for the third movie. Yeah, I was committed to the 2 parts, I don't have another one of these in me.
The script is so bad, the small amount of dialogue it has is insufferable, the pacing is so bad, it makes an already boring movie even worse. There's a part of the movie that is, montage, small bit of normal scene, more montage, another small bit of normal scene. It's hard to get through.
The relationship between the main team is almost nonexistent. You made a whole movie about them meeting, and in the second movie, they still barely talk with each other. In the final battle one of them tells another, "If I must die" and the other says "together" and it's genuinely the first time they spoke with each other.
The exposition is done so horribly. There's literally a scene where they go around a table and each of them does a summary of their origin story, as it's shown in flashbacks. And when most of them are done, one of them actually says "What about you? You haven't told your story".
Final battle has some nice sequences, but it's filled with just overdramatised moments of sacrifice and death, because these characters are basically cardboard.
There are some cool shots, some with the robot Jimmy, but that's all they are, shots that look cool. 0 significance, because we barely see him in the damn movie. And to finish the fight comes that Rebellion that was shown for like 5 minutes in the first movie? Yeah, the guy with the face paint. They just appear. No idea who called them, idk how they knew there was a fight, they just show up. Idk if I missed the part where they were called, because by then I was half asleep.
Then obviously there's set up for the third movie. Yeah, I was committed to the 2 parts, I don't have another one of these in me.
- kevinfaftine
- Apr 18, 2024
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This has been bothering me for a day or so now. I have literally never written a review before. But, I had to share what I'm seeing with others.
I've seen people compare this movie/movies to Star wars and Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress. But I mean a small town being pushed around by a massive force. Who looks for warriors to help keep their town.
Anyways, it's not bad but not great either. It's a nice action movie for at home viewing. If your looking for a strong story or edge of your seat action. Then this movie isn't for you. But if you're looking for something to watch on Saturday night then just have fun and don't think about it.
I've seen people compare this movie/movies to Star wars and Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress. But I mean a small town being pushed around by a massive force. Who looks for warriors to help keep their town.
Anyways, it's not bad but not great either. It's a nice action movie for at home viewing. If your looking for a strong story or edge of your seat action. Then this movie isn't for you. But if you're looking for something to watch on Saturday night then just have fun and don't think about it.
- kduggan-87464
- Apr 19, 2024
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Yes, a whole war over a literal ton of wheat, in a bunch of hessian bags.
This overflowing wannabe western porta-potty of tripe is a festival of ridiculous wildly contrasting, and grotesquely incompatible ideas. Energy weapons that reload like cowboy western guns, fighting alongside Conan using his axes. Soldiers that cannot hit a target in a 1 by 2m passage, high tech ships that smoke like they are diesel powered, soldiers that behave like they were hired as extras on a F-grade scifi film (oh wait that's true) Fight scenes with energy weapons so close quarters that the fighters would rather hit their enemies with their rifle than shoot them. It's so insanely ridiculous I nearly chewed through my own foot out of frustration.
Then the monologues. Lectures by warriors given to villagers they just met, minutes before. More lectures and 20 second "tragic" back stories that will make you wish the "warriors" telling them were rather killed on the spot by the evil empire, who apparently kill just for sport, and have no real motivation.
Acting so wooden and hollow, you'll feel like you're watching a play about hearding sheep, performed by the society of grave diggers, at your local town bowling alley on a Wednesday night during happy hour.
If you like this film, please, please, for the love of humanity, do not procreate.
This overflowing wannabe western porta-potty of tripe is a festival of ridiculous wildly contrasting, and grotesquely incompatible ideas. Energy weapons that reload like cowboy western guns, fighting alongside Conan using his axes. Soldiers that cannot hit a target in a 1 by 2m passage, high tech ships that smoke like they are diesel powered, soldiers that behave like they were hired as extras on a F-grade scifi film (oh wait that's true) Fight scenes with energy weapons so close quarters that the fighters would rather hit their enemies with their rifle than shoot them. It's so insanely ridiculous I nearly chewed through my own foot out of frustration.
Then the monologues. Lectures by warriors given to villagers they just met, minutes before. More lectures and 20 second "tragic" back stories that will make you wish the "warriors" telling them were rather killed on the spot by the evil empire, who apparently kill just for sport, and have no real motivation.
Acting so wooden and hollow, you'll feel like you're watching a play about hearding sheep, performed by the society of grave diggers, at your local town bowling alley on a Wednesday night during happy hour.
If you like this film, please, please, for the love of humanity, do not procreate.
After having seen the director's cut of Part 1, Part 2 couldn't stay behind. And it continues flawlessly where Part 1 ended.
I rate both films with 7, not 8. Dialogs could have been better spoken, some scenes were too short, some were a bit long. Also, some slow-motion again.
Some fighting scenes don't quite make sense to me while watching the film. I had to wait for the "Making of" to get explanations about those.
Another puzzling thing is that nobody seems to ever get of out ammunition. But I may have missed it...
With the final battle scene (of the director's cut) I wonder if we're going to see Part 3. With the poor rating of the original films I'm afraid not, but the director's cuts are there for a reason.
I find watching the film not a waste of time...
I rate both films with 7, not 8. Dialogs could have been better spoken, some scenes were too short, some were a bit long. Also, some slow-motion again.
Some fighting scenes don't quite make sense to me while watching the film. I had to wait for the "Making of" to get explanations about those.
Another puzzling thing is that nobody seems to ever get of out ammunition. But I may have missed it...
With the final battle scene (of the director's cut) I wonder if we're going to see Part 3. With the poor rating of the original films I'm afraid not, but the director's cuts are there for a reason.
I find watching the film not a waste of time...
- van niekerk
- Sep 6, 2024
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What a load of tosh.
I didn't feel any connection with any of the cliched, 2-dimensional characters so didn't care when any of them died.
However, it gets a few stars for great visuals and CGI, the satisfying splashy-lava effect of the blasters, and the light-trail effects of the light sabres. The coolest moment was the James the mech with his cloak in his One Punch Man moment.
Half the movie was the farmers harvesting wheat and after one day of combat training got a better kill-death ratio than any of the veterans.
The other half of the movie was a guy turning the little wheel to aim the Dreadnaught cannon.
Remind me never to watch any more Synder movies on Netflix.
I didn't feel any connection with any of the cliched, 2-dimensional characters so didn't care when any of them died.
However, it gets a few stars for great visuals and CGI, the satisfying splashy-lava effect of the blasters, and the light-trail effects of the light sabres. The coolest moment was the James the mech with his cloak in his One Punch Man moment.
Half the movie was the farmers harvesting wheat and after one day of combat training got a better kill-death ratio than any of the veterans.
The other half of the movie was a guy turning the little wheel to aim the Dreadnaught cannon.
Remind me never to watch any more Synder movies on Netflix.
- dragontung
- Apr 18, 2024
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I watched both versions and Snyder's edit is way better than the original release. Getting to see the director's true vision filled in some elements to the story that were left out on the earlier version, those added elements filled out the characters, made them three dimensional by including the back story. The earlier versions of the show were disjointed with an ending that left me dissatisfied feeling as though I had just watched a half assed attempt to remake Star Wars, in fact it was so bad I actually fell asleep on the show. Snyder's personal kept me involved throughout the almost 6 hours of the 2 parter. If you watched this before I strongly suggest you give the new and improved versions a try.
- leestewarttaylor
- Aug 6, 2024
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I wasn't aware people had a "Nickelback" level of hate towards Zack Snyder but so it seems.
These 2 movies are not the next Star Wars or Star Trek but they are by no mean as bad as people make them out to be.
With Part 1 & 2 we have 2 quite entertaining Space Action Scifis, with good special effects and acceptable acting and plot. These are not meant to be Academy Award nominated dialogues or scripts. They are meant to entertain you and I can't see how a sci-fi fan wouldn't find them fun.
As for the plot being just every big sci-fi blockbusters blended together, all I have to say is... if we can accept Avatar being "Pocahontas in Space" then we shouldn't have any problem accepting this as "Magnificent Seven in Space" or "Seven Samurai in space".
I do believe that over time these will have a cult following and if people could just let themselves enjoy something fun maybe we could have a new cool cinematic universe here but with the reception they're getting it's doubtful.
These 2 movies are not the next Star Wars or Star Trek but they are by no mean as bad as people make them out to be.
With Part 1 & 2 we have 2 quite entertaining Space Action Scifis, with good special effects and acceptable acting and plot. These are not meant to be Academy Award nominated dialogues or scripts. They are meant to entertain you and I can't see how a sci-fi fan wouldn't find them fun.
As for the plot being just every big sci-fi blockbusters blended together, all I have to say is... if we can accept Avatar being "Pocahontas in Space" then we shouldn't have any problem accepting this as "Magnificent Seven in Space" or "Seven Samurai in space".
I do believe that over time these will have a cult following and if people could just let themselves enjoy something fun maybe we could have a new cool cinematic universe here but with the reception they're getting it's doubtful.
- likeitornotitsmyopinion
- May 4, 2024
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Alright, so I finally got around to watching Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver, and let me tell you, it's a bit of a rollercoaster ride. On one hand, there's definitely been some improvement since the first film, particularly when it comes to the jaw-dropping action sequences. Seriously, they were inventive, eye-catching, and had me glued to the screen throughout.
But here's where things get a little complicated. While the action scenes were a major highlight, it felt like the filmmakers were more focused on laying the groundwork for a potential franchise rather than delivering a standalone, gripping story. This weakened the immediate stakes of the plot, leaving me feeling somewhat disconnected from the characters and their struggles.
Now, let's talk about Zack Snyder. The guy's no stranger to controversy, and while I think he gets more flak than he deserves, I can't deny that there were some pacing issues in this film. Plus, some of the characters felt underdeveloped, which was a real missed opportunity considering the potential they had.
On the positive side, the visual spectacle of Rebel Moon Part 2 is undeniable. Snyder's signature style shines through, and there are moments of pure cinematic magic that left me in awe. But it's clear that the focus on franchise-building came at the expense of fully fleshing out the story and its characters.
So, where does that leave us? Well, if you were a fan of the first Rebel Moon, you'll probably find Part 2 to be a more polished experience. The action is top-notch, and there's definitely a sense of progression in terms of the overall feel of the film. However, if you're looking for a completely satisfying conclusion with high stakes and deep character development, you might be left wanting more.
In the end, Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver is a solid improvement over its predecessor, but there's still plenty of room for growth. Here's hoping that any future installments can strike a better balance between franchise-building and delivering a compelling, standalone story.
The hate for this film is not justified at all.
People are treating zack Snyder like he killed a puppy.
But here's where things get a little complicated. While the action scenes were a major highlight, it felt like the filmmakers were more focused on laying the groundwork for a potential franchise rather than delivering a standalone, gripping story. This weakened the immediate stakes of the plot, leaving me feeling somewhat disconnected from the characters and their struggles.
Now, let's talk about Zack Snyder. The guy's no stranger to controversy, and while I think he gets more flak than he deserves, I can't deny that there were some pacing issues in this film. Plus, some of the characters felt underdeveloped, which was a real missed opportunity considering the potential they had.
On the positive side, the visual spectacle of Rebel Moon Part 2 is undeniable. Snyder's signature style shines through, and there are moments of pure cinematic magic that left me in awe. But it's clear that the focus on franchise-building came at the expense of fully fleshing out the story and its characters.
So, where does that leave us? Well, if you were a fan of the first Rebel Moon, you'll probably find Part 2 to be a more polished experience. The action is top-notch, and there's definitely a sense of progression in terms of the overall feel of the film. However, if you're looking for a completely satisfying conclusion with high stakes and deep character development, you might be left wanting more.
In the end, Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver is a solid improvement over its predecessor, but there's still plenty of room for growth. Here's hoping that any future installments can strike a better balance between franchise-building and delivering a compelling, standalone story.
The hate for this film is not justified at all.
People are treating zack Snyder like he killed a puppy.
- magadalwarmayur
- Apr 19, 2024
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I am thoroughly disappointed and have come to realize that I may never watch another one of his films again. It has become increasingly clear that his films, consistently lack meaningful plot progression and substantial character arcs.
The repetitive film sequences and copy and pasting, for me have become boring to watch. It sucks to watch his body of work, which fails to bring anything new to the table.
The persistent use of slow-motion effects seems more a stylistic crutch than a narrative necessity. The excessive reliance on CGI and these slow-motion scenes, which add nothing of value, is confusing.
Additionally, particularly the editing, was underwhelming. Glaring continuity errors in the scenes. I even saw the dull end of an axe slice a throat. These are not minor oversights; they significantly detract from the film's credibility.
I had high hopes that 'Part Two' might redeem the cinematic tragedy of part one, but instead, it confirmed my reservations. This film feels more like a visual spectacle devoid of soul than a coherent narrative. Why make a story in 2 parts, 2 hours a piece, and prioritize flashy visuals over compelling storytelling?
The repetitive film sequences and copy and pasting, for me have become boring to watch. It sucks to watch his body of work, which fails to bring anything new to the table.
The persistent use of slow-motion effects seems more a stylistic crutch than a narrative necessity. The excessive reliance on CGI and these slow-motion scenes, which add nothing of value, is confusing.
Additionally, particularly the editing, was underwhelming. Glaring continuity errors in the scenes. I even saw the dull end of an axe slice a throat. These are not minor oversights; they significantly detract from the film's credibility.
I had high hopes that 'Part Two' might redeem the cinematic tragedy of part one, but instead, it confirmed my reservations. This film feels more like a visual spectacle devoid of soul than a coherent narrative. Why make a story in 2 parts, 2 hours a piece, and prioritize flashy visuals over compelling storytelling?
Honestly, I find the reviews of this movie not very credible...
Although there's a sense in the first 10 minutes that the cast is finding its footing and there's some clumsiness with the acting, once I surrendered, I was sucked into the story.
Sure, the Star Wars storyline is heavily relied upon, but once the clichés are set aside and the saccharine moments pass, it actually becomes quite an exciting film.
The epic battles and significant losses, even among main characters, truly immerse you in the conflict.
Sure, there are areas that could be improved upon, but all in all, I thoroughly enjoyed it and am genuinely looking forward to a sequel.
Although there's a sense in the first 10 minutes that the cast is finding its footing and there's some clumsiness with the acting, once I surrendered, I was sucked into the story.
Sure, the Star Wars storyline is heavily relied upon, but once the clichés are set aside and the saccharine moments pass, it actually becomes quite an exciting film.
The epic battles and significant losses, even among main characters, truly immerse you in the conflict.
Sure, there are areas that could be improved upon, but all in all, I thoroughly enjoyed it and am genuinely looking forward to a sequel.
Slow-motion farming.. Slow-motion water-refilling.. Grain-bag filling, falling, dying, you name it. This is unnecessary-slow-motion the movie.
And while this sequel is easier to swallow, it continues a hollow story of unlikeable characters. And less time for world-building doesn't excuse the lack of it! Rebel Moon has gotten 4 hours, and has done nothing with it.. Character backgrounds coming out half-way during the second movie is inexcusable and poor writing, and I still don't buy the displayed camaraderie anyway.
If Hallmark made Sci-Fi films, I would believe this to be one of them! Not sure why I gave it a chance, as I feel I've wasted my time in the end.
And while this sequel is easier to swallow, it continues a hollow story of unlikeable characters. And less time for world-building doesn't excuse the lack of it! Rebel Moon has gotten 4 hours, and has done nothing with it.. Character backgrounds coming out half-way during the second movie is inexcusable and poor writing, and I still don't buy the displayed camaraderie anyway.
If Hallmark made Sci-Fi films, I would believe this to be one of them! Not sure why I gave it a chance, as I feel I've wasted my time in the end.
- daisukereds
- Apr 20, 2024
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First, to be clear, I never watched the original releases. I read at the time Part 1 was released that there would be director's cuts of both parts, so I decided to wait til now. I have watched both parts of the director's cuts and submitting one review here for both. Both parts are essentially one long contiguous movie. My actually rating would be a 6.5 rounded down here for 6 stars. Also, I don't classify myself as a Snyder fan per se. His DC stuff was mediocre mostly though entertaining. I did like 300 and Watchmen a lot.
RM is basically a hodge podge of ideas and concepts from past movies. Star Wars is obvious and mentioned as Snyder's inspiration. Other movies like Seven Samurai and even Chronicles of Riddick come to mind as well. To be clear though, that is not something that bothers me - I'm not mentioning it to be negative. Most movies are derivative these days. It's not a problem when it is done right and some originality is mixed in.
The effort of RM is admirable. However, IMO, what brings it down mostly is a weakish story and the connections between the characters. It is overstuffed and lacks cohesiveness. That is important stuff to any action scifi movie. Yet, on a positive note, the movie mostly looks good. Heavy CGI but good CGI. One thing of note though that I've noticed in other Snyder movies is a lot of unfocused views which are sometimes hard on the eyes. Still, the overall aesthetic is interesting and original. Lastly, at a high level, the movie is mostly entertaining with some good action. The director's cut is very graphically violent although the blood effects have a CGI quality to them. Some nudity/sex - mainly Sofia - which was fine.
The one point I'd really like to expand on is the connection between the characters. I felt this along with the mainline story let the movie down. A great example is the the opening act. A character survives through this nightmarish ordeal. He finds his way to our storied Moon, but while he is given a decent storyline it is mostly in the background. He barely interacts at all with the central character(s), and if I'm not mistaken, has a connection to the rebel leader.
Another example is Jimmy the Robot, played by Sir Hopkins. He also finds his way to the Moon, but spends much of the two movies waxing poetic about things we don't really know much about. He does perform one interesting act early in Part One, and then disappears for very long stretches before having quick scenes staring at stuff. He spends much of the movie hiding from the villagers as, I guess, he tries to "find himself". I felt Jimmy would have added a lot to this movie if his character was more central. IMO that was a big failure.
Next you have Noble (Skrein) and Kora/Athe. Noble is clearly the baddie Vader type in this movie, which you know from the opening minutes. Kora and Noble have a enmity toward each other that is not really based on anything other than the current situation. Other characters would have much better reasons here. Noble needed a backstory. When you do get the backstories like Kora's there is no Noble in there. This would have added more depth to everything and satisfaction in the later stages.
Lastly, we are fed bits and pieces of backstory from Kora. I realize that this was fed to us slowly likely to build some mystery, even into Part II. I felt we needed more of this story early on to provide more context so that we could connect to the characters and events now. IMO a better prologue would have done wonders here.
In conclusion, RM DCs are very watchable movies but fall short of being truly good. But there is definitely something missing here. It could have been so much better. I do think RM would have worked better as a like an eight part first season.
RM is basically a hodge podge of ideas and concepts from past movies. Star Wars is obvious and mentioned as Snyder's inspiration. Other movies like Seven Samurai and even Chronicles of Riddick come to mind as well. To be clear though, that is not something that bothers me - I'm not mentioning it to be negative. Most movies are derivative these days. It's not a problem when it is done right and some originality is mixed in.
The effort of RM is admirable. However, IMO, what brings it down mostly is a weakish story and the connections between the characters. It is overstuffed and lacks cohesiveness. That is important stuff to any action scifi movie. Yet, on a positive note, the movie mostly looks good. Heavy CGI but good CGI. One thing of note though that I've noticed in other Snyder movies is a lot of unfocused views which are sometimes hard on the eyes. Still, the overall aesthetic is interesting and original. Lastly, at a high level, the movie is mostly entertaining with some good action. The director's cut is very graphically violent although the blood effects have a CGI quality to them. Some nudity/sex - mainly Sofia - which was fine.
The one point I'd really like to expand on is the connection between the characters. I felt this along with the mainline story let the movie down. A great example is the the opening act. A character survives through this nightmarish ordeal. He finds his way to our storied Moon, but while he is given a decent storyline it is mostly in the background. He barely interacts at all with the central character(s), and if I'm not mistaken, has a connection to the rebel leader.
Another example is Jimmy the Robot, played by Sir Hopkins. He also finds his way to the Moon, but spends much of the two movies waxing poetic about things we don't really know much about. He does perform one interesting act early in Part One, and then disappears for very long stretches before having quick scenes staring at stuff. He spends much of the movie hiding from the villagers as, I guess, he tries to "find himself". I felt Jimmy would have added a lot to this movie if his character was more central. IMO that was a big failure.
Next you have Noble (Skrein) and Kora/Athe. Noble is clearly the baddie Vader type in this movie, which you know from the opening minutes. Kora and Noble have a enmity toward each other that is not really based on anything other than the current situation. Other characters would have much better reasons here. Noble needed a backstory. When you do get the backstories like Kora's there is no Noble in there. This would have added more depth to everything and satisfaction in the later stages.
Lastly, we are fed bits and pieces of backstory from Kora. I realize that this was fed to us slowly likely to build some mystery, even into Part II. I felt we needed more of this story early on to provide more context so that we could connect to the characters and events now. IMO a better prologue would have done wonders here.
In conclusion, RM DCs are very watchable movies but fall short of being truly good. But there is definitely something missing here. It could have been so much better. I do think RM would have worked better as a like an eight part first season.
Both part one and two original releases of this film were disjointed and clearly had large sections of backstory left on the cutting room floor , resulting in truly awful movies . Thankfully reason prevailed and the director's cuts were released giving us a more complete story with room for infinite exploration into further chapters. Zack's vision more fully realised is an epic story that I would gladly follow chapter after chapter , despite my usual aversion to this recent trend of female protagonist's I think Zack has produced an epic universe that like the Dune universe in the books , needs to be fully realised. Congratulations Mr Snyder on yet another brilliant achievement in film making and storytelling.
- andrewhardie-86223
- Aug 14, 2024
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It seems that Zack Snyder's modus operandi now is to release a fair to middling take of the movie at PG-13 (though funnily enough, the first film had a 15 rating slapped onto it by the BBFC after Netflix had already rated it as a 12. I'm guessing the same will happen to this due to the dark tone of it) Then release the Snyder Cut, which is not only longer, but darker, more violent, with profanity and sexual scenes that wouldn't pass at PG-13. These cuts end up being the definitive versions of the film, and vastly superior to the one the studio put out initially.
I don't know why the studios don't trust in Zack Snyder's original vision, as he's proved time and time again that his vision is the better movie.
Justice League was infinitely better than the Joss Whedon debacle that was initially released, as it restored whole deleted sub-plots. Got rid of the cheesy(and sometimes sleazy) humour, and introduced a whole new big bad, which due to the poor reception of the studio butchered cinema release, has just been left hanging.
Batman Vs Superman explored more of the story as a whole, went deeper into each characters psyche, and introduced more story threads that would be picked up in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Watchmen, the directors cut actually gave justice to it's original inspiration. The seminal comic book Watchmen. It was long thought to be unfilmable, but Zack Snyder pulled it off, and apart from one very uncomfortable sex scene, should be up thee with the best comic book adaptations ever made.
I'm guessing you've got my point by now, and I know this time it was a marketing ploy by Netflix to have the two different version. One that's more family friendly and one that's a Hard R rated, adults only version. But please reserve judgement on this duology of movies until you've seen what is Zack Snyder's original vision. The man is a masterful filmmaker when he's let off a leash and encouraged to do what he wants to do. I for one can't wait to see a bloody, violent, sweary, and jet black version of both of these films, and they deserve to be seen before any judgement is passed on them.
I don't know why the studios don't trust in Zack Snyder's original vision, as he's proved time and time again that his vision is the better movie.
Justice League was infinitely better than the Joss Whedon debacle that was initially released, as it restored whole deleted sub-plots. Got rid of the cheesy(and sometimes sleazy) humour, and introduced a whole new big bad, which due to the poor reception of the studio butchered cinema release, has just been left hanging.
Batman Vs Superman explored more of the story as a whole, went deeper into each characters psyche, and introduced more story threads that would be picked up in Zack Snyder's Justice League.
Watchmen, the directors cut actually gave justice to it's original inspiration. The seminal comic book Watchmen. It was long thought to be unfilmable, but Zack Snyder pulled it off, and apart from one very uncomfortable sex scene, should be up thee with the best comic book adaptations ever made.
I'm guessing you've got my point by now, and I know this time it was a marketing ploy by Netflix to have the two different version. One that's more family friendly and one that's a Hard R rated, adults only version. But please reserve judgement on this duology of movies until you've seen what is Zack Snyder's original vision. The man is a masterful filmmaker when he's let off a leash and encouraged to do what he wants to do. I for one can't wait to see a bloody, violent, sweary, and jet black version of both of these films, and they deserve to be seen before any judgement is passed on them.
The first one was ok, although it was blatantly obviously Star Wars remade ... There wasn't an original idea in the whole thing ... And it has some really bad colour grading choices ( probably to cover up the lack of reality and texture in the sets or effects ) ... But this !!! ... Slow motion farming ... Cliche after cliche after cliche, badly and stupidly presented ... Once again it was badly colour graded ... The slow motion was absolutely ridiculous ... I mean I can see Snyder pitching this with " I'm actually doing something unique here in actually doing my customary slo-mo shots slowed down a second time and having them have no relevence whatsoever to flow or plot line ... Seriously, start respecting your time and don't waste it on garbage, cos that is all this is.
- boyd-03573
- May 1, 2024
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- radioman99-705-745149
- Apr 18, 2024
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