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Follows Paleo anthropologist Lee Berger in South Africa, as he and his team try to prove that the world's oldest graveyard they found, is not human. A small brained, ape-like creature could ... Read allFollows Paleo anthropologist Lee Berger in South Africa, as he and his team try to prove that the world's oldest graveyard they found, is not human. A small brained, ape-like creature could have practiced complex burial rituals.Follows Paleo anthropologist Lee Berger in South Africa, as he and his team try to prove that the world's oldest graveyard they found, is not human. A small brained, ape-like creature could have practiced complex burial rituals.
Keneiloe Molopyane
- Self - Lead Excavator
- (as Dr. Keneiloe Molopyane)
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The subject in itself is very interesting, which helps the documentary, which is also very well produced.
However, I felt that scientists seem too passionate about the subject to give a more balanced or less biased opinion.
In addition, at a certain point the chief scientist passes by a cave location and makes an incredible discovery. However, how many did not pass by there? How could they not see?
The life and culture of Homo Naledi seemed too romanticized to me, with a lot of speculation and no dissenting voices.
That's why everything in the documentary seems to me to be partly scripted, disclosing possibly previous discoveries as if they were made in front of the cameras.
However, I felt that scientists seem too passionate about the subject to give a more balanced or less biased opinion.
In addition, at a certain point the chief scientist passes by a cave location and makes an incredible discovery. However, how many did not pass by there? How could they not see?
The life and culture of Homo Naledi seemed too romanticized to me, with a lot of speculation and no dissenting voices.
That's why everything in the documentary seems to me to be partly scripted, disclosing possibly previous discoveries as if they were made in front of the cameras.
I think the subject matter is super interesting and the cinematography is really great.
However, I feel like the Scientists have done the classic poker term of "falling in love with your hand" meaning, they are making very bold statements, leaning towards calling them facts about something that is purely speculative.
I would love to see or hear from another team of Scientists that have little or no knowledge of this subject matter and to hear what their conclusions are.
I personally think there are some other obvious ways and methods that these remains could have made it to their final resting spots.
None the less, if you're into science, dawn of human and cave exploration, you'll enjoy this. I did.
I respect the dedication and years that the Scientists have put in here. Their passion is palpable, albeit possibly a bit one sided.
However, I feel like the Scientists have done the classic poker term of "falling in love with your hand" meaning, they are making very bold statements, leaning towards calling them facts about something that is purely speculative.
I would love to see or hear from another team of Scientists that have little or no knowledge of this subject matter and to hear what their conclusions are.
I personally think there are some other obvious ways and methods that these remains could have made it to their final resting spots.
None the less, if you're into science, dawn of human and cave exploration, you'll enjoy this. I did.
I respect the dedication and years that the Scientists have put in here. Their passion is palpable, albeit possibly a bit one sided.
I did enjoy this because I was interested in the subject. I wanted to see the bones, hear what the actual physical discoveries were, etc.
What I got instead was an attempt to tell a story that seemed more for entertainment than actual scientific hypothesis.
There were also some truly concerning moments like when the supposed head of archeology for the project suddenly asks (in the middle of doing measurements) "are we measuring in centimeters or millimeters?" Shouldn't that be well established at that point?
The animations were completely unnecessary and much too speculative. Generally there was way too much romanticizing of these ancient creatures. I don't like the tendency to project a spiritual or religious meaning onto everything they did.
It almost feels condescending. Like they thought the viewers would be bored with pure science so they had to embellish it like a Disney movie to get people interested.
What I got instead was an attempt to tell a story that seemed more for entertainment than actual scientific hypothesis.
There were also some truly concerning moments like when the supposed head of archeology for the project suddenly asks (in the middle of doing measurements) "are we measuring in centimeters or millimeters?" Shouldn't that be well established at that point?
The animations were completely unnecessary and much too speculative. Generally there was way too much romanticizing of these ancient creatures. I don't like the tendency to project a spiritual or religious meaning onto everything they did.
It almost feels condescending. Like they thought the viewers would be bored with pure science so they had to embellish it like a Disney movie to get people interested.
I enjoyed the documentary and particularly appreciated the cartoon scenes that help the viewer understand the cave system and what this species might have been like. There is one aspect that I just find implausible about the theory of how the bones got to their resting spot. These ape/human creatures somehow ventured deep into a cave system with very tight and steep passageways with no light. It would have been pitch black for hundreds of yards AF advanced cave exploration while carrying their dead. They show an example of how you could bring fire into the cave to light the way. Sure that works for an open area, but the 36 ft chute that is super tight and straight down isn't something you could traverse while carrying lit torches. Plus you'd have to go hours in and hours out which would have required lots of wood. They would have been regularly stuck in the cave with no way to see a thing and died in there. Show me one crew going all the way to the end and back using fire as light and I'm on board otherwise this just isn't believable.
It starts off pretty good, but quickly descents into a very speculative realm. At one point they claim that these creatures had to use fire in the cave, otherwise they couldn't find their ways. Right, is this what rodents do when navigating caves? I haven't seen many torch carrying mice lately. Or, who knows, perhaps the cave layout changed in 250k years and used to be light coming from somewhere. All questions that popped in my head, none of which were answered.
There are no counter arguments whatsoever. These people love their jobs, that's obvious, but I'm missing a different perspective. A different take on their theories that could explain the observed as well. Now everything is presented as fact, which it clearly is not.
There are no counter arguments whatsoever. These people love their jobs, that's obvious, but I'm missing a different perspective. A different take on their theories that could explain the observed as well. Now everything is presented as fact, which it clearly is not.
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- 1h 33m(93 min)
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