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Can some of you here at JEDI imagine,that the

earth is a living being and the Force is its energy
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KataioSkywalker re) [
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Yes Gaia. Is that not a Greek/Roman Goddess.

The earth as a single massive organism. It is
quite interseting.

You know what is strange. We have names for all

the suns we know of in the galaxies but we call
our own star "the Sun". We names for many
Posts: 339 moons too but we simply call our own "the
Dec 3 03 6:49 AM moon". Why call earth, earth even, stay on the
pattern and call it planet.

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Thats human nature for ya.....

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>The earth as a single massive organism.<

I also see and feel it like this!And every organism

has an energy field!And as long as we are only on
this planet,the Force is the energy field of the
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I mean with the energy field also the energy-body
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Meditate about this!

IMO this essential part is here at JEDI

completely missing!!!

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Garth Kornell Earth as an Organism [

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Well, it sounds very interesting. An organism is

the top level of human beings, is it not? It goes
like this:

Organism
Organ System
Organs
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progress of the whole. As every living thing on
this planet(except humans which tend to destroy
it sometimes). Could we consider then, that every
living being is a level in this planet and that the
planet, as a whole is an organism. The Force
thus, being it's mind? The mind runs the body,
the Force runs the planet, no...the universe or the
infinite.

Oracle3927 Just the Earth? [

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Why stop at the Earth? Expand it further. Look

at the orderliness of the Solar System. See the
patterns to be found in our Galaxy. Find the
harmony among the stars and come to realize
that the entire Universe works in much the same
way as you have described the Earth acting as a
body.

Likewise, look at smaller things. Learn the order

of a single living cell and come to understand the
atom. These too work as you have described the
Earth, acting as a body.

"As above, so below" and as below, so above.

Come to better understand the harmony in all
things, and you come to better understand the
Force.

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Kiae Quon dei Lecture? [

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Might I suggest you write a lecture on that

Oracle?

If not, do you mind if I take your thoughts and

expand on them myself?

I have always been interested in science for the

fact of understanding how the universe works in
that dimention, per say.

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Dec 17 03 4:37 PM realize that the more we understand the way
harmony and balance exist throughout the
universe, all the way down to the atom and
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I shall ask this then... do you think the this
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Or do you believe that the Force gives the
infinate energy to keep every election moving
around the neucleus of an atom without ever
slowing down?

Or do you believe, both exist at the same time,

creating the dynamics of life itself, and the
existance of the soul?

Kiae-Quon dei'

"If there is light in the soul, There will be

beauty in the person.

If there is beauty in the person, There will be

harmony in the house.

If there is harmony in the house, There will be

order in the nation.

If there is order in the nation, There will be

peace in the world."
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RelativeExistence Re: Lecture? [

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I'm somewhat of a hypocrite to say this, but..

With all of the problems in the world: starvation,

disease, war, hatred - Who really cares if the
earth is a living being? There are so many more
important things to worry about.

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Dec 19 03 12:05 AM while and I was hoping to find something deep
and inspiring. What I've found is New Age
nonsense which I've learned is just as ridiculous
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 I'm not really a lecture writer. I often feel that the
soul of my writing is neutered in the polishing
process of "proper" writing; I much prefer to
stick to my random stream of consciousness
rants with all their imperfections. (Imperfections
add character and uniqueness... :P) If you care to
turn all of this into a lecture, go right ahead - it's
not as though you need my permission (though I
do appreciate your consideration ). If you'd
like, we can collaborate in the brainstorming
process.

On to other thoughts...

The physical world (/universe), both large and

small, are manifestations of the Force. The
analogy I often think of, and refer too (I
apologize now to those who've already
heard/read me say/write this), is that of a clock:

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A person looks at a clock and it tells them the
time.

This person wishes to understand the clock

better, and why/how it tells time, so this person
researches it. Eventually, the person comes to
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understand all of the pieces that make up the
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clock, how they're made, what they do
individually, and how they interact to make the
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This is the same way I approach most things, the

Force included. I see the physical world and
wonder about it. In my search I have come know
of the Force, and have sought to understand it
more deeply as well. All the perspectives, all the
religions, all the science and philosophy give me
pieces of this understanding that I hope to
eventually fit together. None-the-less, at some
point I'll still go back to just looking at the clock
to see the time. The world will just BE and I'll
understand that the Force just IS, in such a way
that I'll be at peace with that knowledge and find
serenity through understanding.

Now, to answer your questions, Harmony is it's

own natural law and is therefore a law of the
Force (not forgetting that the Force is inclusive
of all things). How I see these things as a matter
of energy is explained in something I wrote some
 time ago that is in my journal ("My Beliefs on
Reality as of 2003 May 19, 22:10"). Please realize
that what is written there, and what I presently
believe, is based on the best information I have
thus far; if that changes, so will my belief.

What exactly the "soul" is I have not yet pinned

down. I have several speculative thoughts
though...

*There is a similar Zen story about a mountain,

and Bruce Lee once wrote similar words about a
punch in one of his books.

Jubushiaiki

Kiae Quon dei Parellel thoughts [

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In the past few months Oracle, Streen and I have

been expressing to each other our deepest
understandings of the universe.

This includes and defiantly not limited to the

Force, God, the Soul, life, humanity, the
universe, etc.

A lot of what you have said as well as emphasized

parallels our understanding of life quite well. In
fact one of the biggest themes within all of our
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discussions are that the reason so many people
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understand what others believe they alone know,
is because its not about understanding what is
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sense, in the spiritual sense, our place in this
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On that, I e-mailed Streen back last night, due to

the fact that we both sent each other some of the
most profound things we have ever written, if he
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here at JEDI. Close the topic though, just so
people have in insight into mine and Streen's life
as far as spirituality goes.

Sort of like a Chronicle of our understanding. He

thought it was a great idea, so we may do this
shortly. If we do, I would recommend that you
read them through and if you want, get back to
us on it and well probably post your e-mail up
there too.

You mentioned you have not figured out for

yourself what the soul is just yet, and Streen and
I talked a lot about the soul as well, its in every
one of our conversations. Its more of our
"imprint" into the Force, so to say, the
representation of who we are on another plain of
existence in which such things as feelings and
emotions are derived from, in the sixth sense sort
of way, as in "I have a bad feeling about this".

Anyhow, thats a bad explanation, but youre

welcome to review it when its up.

Oh, and on the Lecture thing, I would love to

brainstorm with you on it. If we both can share
these beliefs as well as we do now, I am confident
we should come up with a great "lecture".

Kiae-Quon dei'

"If there is light in the soul, There will be

beauty in the person.

If there is beauty in the person, There will be

harmony in the house.

If there is harmony in the house, There will be

order in the nation.

If there is order in the nation, There will be

peace in the world."

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Oracle3927 Re: Parellel thoughts [

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always sticks in my mind when it comes to
parallel thoughts. The thought that the episode
conveyed is that inspiration strikes multiple
people at a time - as though when the time has
come for mankind to have a certain knowledge it
will occur within several people, the first one
recognized receiving the credit. There is also a
similar thought I've come across in my magickal
studies - that all knowledge transcends time and
it's just a matter of our tapping it.

Hmm... maybe if we're to give credit to the Force

for being inclusive of our cognizance & spirit (not
necessarily two different things) it can be
credited as a well of knowledge as well... might
help explain collective consciousness, but I also
feel it treads too close to making the Force the
default answer for everything. None-the-less, it
would explain internal/external knowledge.

Similarly, with the soul, I'm not sure how many

things I wish to directly accredit to the Force at
this juncture in my understanding, more-or-less
try to explain through multiple dimensions...

Would you are Streen mind letting me in on this

think-tank, or, better yet, making it publicly
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earth is a living being? There are so many more
important things to worry about.

I didnt see this posted when I began my earlier

reply, so Im adding a response to this as well.

This all depends on what you want to do, relieve

yourself of the symptoms, or to cure he ailment.
Starvation, disease (at least the
preventable/curable sort), war, and hatred are
by-products of poor/faulty human mindsets
(that are too numerous to list prejudice,
ignorance, greed, sloth, ambition,
pride/arrogance just to name a few).

The only way to cure these ills is to promote a

different way of life, yet how can a person do this
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would be rather counter-productive since few
people follow a hypocrite, and if you have not
personally implemented the changes you
promote you run the change of being part of the
problem.

Yes, a lot of what we focus on may seem New

Age-ish, but it serves a real physical purpose:
bettering ourselves so we will be better able to
better the world.

Jubushiaiki

Relan Volkum Who cares? [

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I hear you, I do. The fact is though there is going

to be starvation, disease, war, hatred, and all
these things, because some people aren't going to
learn and are going to stay where they are. They
are afraid to grow. They don't want to move.
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Jan 21 04 9:52 AM sad thing is, this is a part of life.

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problems, but focusing also on other things.

This isn't dogma, this is basic, human

experience. Do you always think of the bad
things? If you do, you won't find what you are
looking for. Change your train of thought, and
maybe you'll see the inspiritation staring beyond
your nose.
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You all can also go in the other direction.

See it in your daily life!

It is in all the small things around us and in our

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behavior to all living beings.
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We all have to die,this makes us all equal.

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I clean places and began to bring the natur in the
city.I began with parks and zones,that nobody
belongs to.I clean parks(my kind of
humbleness!)and terraform the zones,that
belong to nobody.
I call them the border!You can find them in every
urban domain.

Someone ever heard about Permakultur!?

When the Jedi are the knights of the Force,they

have to protect the body of the Force!!!

Jerry Cornelius,a peaceful warrior.

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What is the how, what is that one, and what is

the relevancy between the two?

If I were to guess what you mean, I would say all

things have relevancy to the equation. That's why
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Hey Relan,hey Aslyn.

Did one off you respond to my last post or both
or what!?

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I just answered what was last said, sorry about

that. I should have paid more attention.

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Hey Relan,hey Aslyn.

Did one off you respond to my last post or both
or what!?

"Ups,one to much!"
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 Permakultur? If my Deutsch Grammatik is still
any good, that means a Permanent Culture, and
while the translation isn't overly difficult, you are
going to need to expand a little on the idea for
me, Jerry. There are too many connotations to
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Feb 4 04 5:49 AM wrong one, so by all means, do elaborate for me.

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Hey,Asleyn.
I meant permaculture!
You can look here,
www.permaculture.org.uk/p...rmaculture !!

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That's not what you said. But thank you for

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I meant,that I use the technique of permaculture

to do it.
To bring the nature in the city or other urban
areas.I do it for the animals in the city and for
the humans.It is about growing eatable food you
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When you have a garden,you can also begin
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Our sun's name is Sol, it's just we never call it

that. I think the Earth and moon have names too
(Terra and Luna?) but they're used even less
than Sol. :-)

Has anyone read the Dark Tower series by

Steven King? It's very good and is based around
Posts: 151 the idea the the entire universe is part of a blade
Feb 7 04 6:20 PM of purple grass. Though i think he may be
moving towards it being part of a rose instead. A
bit obscure but some nice ideas.
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I justknow that Earrth, my only companion is as

living as I in a sense of Force.
Earth is our Mother, she gives us our supply of
Force. but Force in tiself is not quite Earth. Force
is something impersonal which is available for
everyone who does have enough personal Force
to get more from this impersonal - in hinduism it
is named Brahmana - a third aspect of the
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