YOUTH

PARLIAMENT
33rd National youth parliament
KORAPUT REGION

ORGANISERS
Patron : Arabinda Biswal Sir(Principal of KV KPT)
Project Incharge : Sunil Kumar
TGT (SST)

Co-operation : Prabhat Kumar sir

TGT (SST)

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 LIST OF PARTICIPANTS
TREASURY BENCH
1. Speaker – Priyadarshini Mohanty
2. Dy. Speaker – Shagun Panigrahi
3. Prime Minister - Krutika
4. Home Minister- Prabhu
5. Defence Minister- Subham Das
6. Education Minister – Amlan Jyoti Acharya
7. Railway Minister – Satyam Maharana
8. Information & Broadcasting Minister -
9. Cultural Minister - Anuska Brahma
10. Labour and welfare – Sweta snigdha sahoo
11. Health and Child welfare - Swagatika
12. Minister of Steel and Mines – Dibyasmitha Biswal
13. Minister of Tourism & civil Aviation – Preetam kumar gouda
14. Minister of Law – Ayush Ranjan Sahoo
15. Foreign Minister – Asish Kumar Rath
16. Science and Space Research Minister -
17. Finance Minister - Comrade
18. Minister of Parliamentary Affairs – Swasty Sagnika
19. Sports Minister – Sai Sarthak
20. Food and pds minister – Sushree pragyasmitha
21. Prachi punyataya Gouda

22. Devansh Deepak Gouda

23. Ashlin akansha
24. Tapyashya panda
25. Prachi pratyasha biswal
26. Muskan Kumari
27. Prachi Praharaj
28. PrayuktPanigrahi
29. Subham Choudhary
30. Omkar Sahu
31. Deepanshi Tejaswini
32. Ayushi Mishra
33. Snigdha Rani Bishi

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34. Anshuman Mohanty- 9th A
35. Seejal Sonakshi Guru -9th B

OPPOSITION PARTY
OPPOSITION
36. Shiv Shankar -12th sci - LEADER
37. S Mahesh Kumar -9th B – DEPUTY LEADER
38. Prateek Ku. Sahu -8th A
39. V goutam Abhiswamat – 8th A
40. Suravi Nahak -8th A
41. Akansha Mandal -8th B
42. Shraddha Suman Nayak -8th B
43. Soumya Ranjan -8Th b
44. Sangeet Khara -8th B
45. Pratyush kumar nayak -9th A
46. Divyansh Lenka -9th A
47. Karthik Kumar -9th A
48. Aachal Pattnaik -9Th B
49. Swayam prabha Pradhan – 9th B
50. Sushree Ayushi -9th A
51. Snigdha rani sisa –9th A
52. Omprakash Nagesh -9th B

PRESS REPORTER
53. ayusman Sahu
54. 42. Prateek Panigrahi

FOREIGN DELIGATION
55. Swayam Vikash – Hiroyuki Hosada – Speaker of japan
56. Abhilipsa Das – Mori Masako - Comitee on judicial affairs
57. Pragya Jennifer nayak – Mrs Arimura Haruko – Committee on Cabinet

OFFICE BEARERS
58. 47. General Secretary – Diptesh Kumar Swain

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 59. 49. Marshal – Subrat behera

RULING PARTY
Prachi punyataya Gouda – 8th A
Preetamku. Gouda- 8th A
Devansh Deepak Gouda – 8th A
Ashlinakansha – 8th A
Tapyashya panda - 8th B
Prachi pratyashabiswal -8th B
Muskan Kumari-8th B
Prachi Praharaj 8th B
PrayuktPanigrahi 8th B
Subham Choudhary 8th B
Omkar Sahu 8th B
DeepanshiTejaswini 8th B
Ayushi Mishra 8th B
Ashish Rath 9th a
Ayush Ranjan 9th a
Sai sarthak 9th A
SushreePragyasmitha 9th a
Snigdha Rani Bishi 9th a
Anuska Brahma -9th A
Anshuman Mohanty- 9th A
Seejal Sonakshi Guru -9th B
SwetaSnigdhaSahu – 9th B’
Dibyasmitha Biswal 9TH B
Satyam Maharana -9th B
Subham Kumar Das -9th B
SwastySagnika -9th B

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 OPPOSTION PARTY

Shiv Shankar -12th sci

S Mahesh Kumar -9th B
Prateek Ku. Sahu -8th A
V goutamAbhiswamat – 8th A
SuraviNahak -8th A
Akansha Mandal -8th B
Shraddha Suman Nayak -8th B
Soumya Ranjan -8Th b
Sangeet Khara -8th B
Pratyushkumarnayak -9th A
DivyanshLenka -9th A
Karthik Kumar -9th A
AachalPattnaik -9Th B
Swayam prabha Pradhan – 9th B
SushreeAyushi -9th A
Snigdha rani sisa –9th A
Omprakash Nagesh -9th B

MINISTERS AND OFFICE

SPEAKER – PRIYADARSHANI 12th SCI
DEPUTY SPEAKER - ShagunPanigrahi 9th B
Prime Ministers – Kruika 12th SCI
Home Minister – Prabhu 11th Sci
Defence Minister – Subham Kumar Das 9th B
Education Minister – amlanjyoti acharya 12th Sci
Railway Minister – Satyam Maharana 9th B
Cultural Minister – Anuska Brahma 9th A
Labour and Welfare Minister – SwetaSnigdhaSahu 9th B
Health and child welfare – Swagatika 12th sci
Minister of civil aviation – Preetamkumar gouda 8th A
Minister of Law – Ayush Ranjan Sahu 9th a
Foreign Minister – Ashish Kumar Rath 9TH a
Finance minister – Comrade – 11th Sci
Minister of parliamentary affairs – SwastySagnika 9th B
Sports minister – Sai Sarthak 9th A

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Food and PDS minister – Sushreepragyasmitha 9th A

PRESS REPORTERS
1. AyusmanSahu
2. Prateek Panigrahi

FOREIGN DELEGATION _ JAPAN

1. Swayam Vikash – Hiroyuki Hosada – Speaker of japan
2. Abhilipsa Das – Mori Masako - Comitee on judicial affairs
3. Pragya Jennifer nayak – Mrs Arimura Haruko – Committee on Cabinet
4.

OFFICE BEARERS –
General Secretary – Diptesh Kumar Swain 9th B
Marshall – Subrat Behera

CONTENTs

Oath Taking
Obituary Reference
Introduction of New Ministers
Question Hour
Re-Breach of Privilege
Papers to be laid
Message from Upper Chamber
Welcome to the Japanese Parliamentary Delegation
Calling Attention Motion
Legislative Business, Bill Introduced, Bill for Consideration
Private Members Resolution

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SPEAKER -Honourable Ministers I welcome you all to the 33 rd National Youth Parliament
2022
We will start with the 1st item on our list of business which is Oath or Affirmation.
Secretary general Please Proceed.
.

SECRETARY GENERAL : Mr. PrayuktPanigrahi’ who stands elected from

the ---------------- will now take the oath or affirmation Mr. Prayukt Please.

SECERETARY GENERAL: Sir do you want to take oath or affirmation? ‘ :

Prayukt– Oath please

SECRETARY GENERAL: In which language would you like to take the

oath?

Prayukt: In Hindi Please.

Main Prayukt Panigrahi जो यु वा सं सद का सदस्य निर्वाचित हुआ हँ ,ू

ईश्वर की शपथ ले ता हँ ू की विधि द्वारा स्थापित भारत के सं विधान के प्रति
श्रद्धा रखूँगा दे श की प्रभु सता और एकता को बनाए रखूँगा तथा जिस पद को मैं
ग्रहण करने वाला हँ ू उसके कर्तव्यों का श्रद्धापूर्वक निर्वाह करूंगा।

 SECRETARY GENERAL:Mrs.Snigdha rani bishi who stands election

from------------------- will now take oath or affirmation.(call out
Mrs.Snigdha).
 (Mrs.Snigdha rani bishi proceeds from the place that she is
occupying to the right hand of the secretary’s General table and
hands over his certificate of election to the officer at the table.

SECRETARY GENERAL: MadamDo you want to take oath or
affirmation?

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 Mrs.Bishii: Affirmation please

SECRETARY GENERAL:In which language would you like to take the

Affirmation please?

Mrs.Snigdha: In English please.

Mrs. Snigdha : I, Snigdha rani bishi having been elected as a

member of the youth parliament solemnly affirm that I will bear
true faith and allegiance to the constitution of India as by law
established, that I will uphold the sovereignty and integrity of
India and that I Will faithfully discharge the duty upon which I am
about to enter.The member then places the oath paper, wishes to
speaker, Signs on the paper and members welcome by thumping
the desk.

OBITUARY REFERENCE

Speaker = Hon'ble members as we meet today. It is my sad duty to inform

the house of the demise of our former union minister Jaswant Singh.
Former Defence minister Jaswant Singh passed away on Sunday at the
age of 82. The former Indian army officer served in Atal Bihari

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Vajpayee's cabinet. He held the portfolios of defence,finance and external
affairs in the Atal Bihari Vajpayee's cabinet between 1998 and 2004.
PM(krutika)-Major Jaswant Singh 3 January 1938 – 27 September
2020) was an officer of the Indian Army and an Indian Cabinet Minister.
He was one of the founding members of the Bharatiya Janata Party
(BJP),and was one of India's longest serving parliamentarians, having
been a member of the Lok Sabha or the Rajya Sabhaalmost continuously
between 1980 and 2014.He was NDA's Vice-presidentialcandidate in
the 2012 Indian vice presidential election. Singh was the only leader
from Rajasthan who had the distinction of becoming the Minister
Of External Affairs, Finance and Defense.He was elected on a BJP ticket
to the Rajya Sabha five times (1980, 1986, 1998, 1999, 2004) and to
the Lok Sabha four times (1990, 1991, 1996, 2009). During the Vajpayee
administration between 1998 and 2004, he held multiple cabinet
portfolios including Finance, External Affairs and Defence. He also
served as the Deputy Chairman of the Planning Commission between
1998 and 1999.In the aftermath of India's nuclear tests of 1998, he was
deputed by Prime Minister Vajpayee to act as India's representative to
hold repeated, long-term dialogue with the United States (represented
by Strobe Talbott) on matters related to nuclear policy and strategy; the
outcome of the sustained engagement was positive for both
countries.After his party lost power in 2004, Jaswant Singhgh served
as Leader of Opposition in the Rajya Sabha from 2004 to 2009

Opposition leader-

INTRODUCTION OF NEW MINISTERS

MR. SPEAKER : Prime Minister to introduce new Ministers.

PRIME MINISTER : Mr. speaker, Sir I have pleasure in introducing to you

and through you, to the House, my colleagues, the new Ministers.
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 Shri Satyam Maharana Minister of Railway
Shri Preetam Kumar Gouda- Minister Civil aviation

QUESTION HOUR

MR. SPEAKER : Now the question hour starts. Question No. 101 Shri Goutam
Abhiswamat

Goutam_: अध्यक्षमहोदय, प्रश्नसं ख्या 101, क्यास्वास्थ्यमं तर् ीयहबताने कीकृपाकरें गे किः
A क्यासरकारकेपासअबतककोविडसे संक्रमितलोगोंकीस्पष्टसं ख्याहै ?

B औरअगरउनकेपासहै तोमैं उनसे घरकोब्योरादे नेकाअनु रोधकरताहं ू

C
भविष्यमें कोविडजै सीअन्यमहामारीउत्पन्नहोने कीस्थितिमें सरकारद्वाराकिसप्रकारकेकदमयाक्याकदमऔरउपायकिएगए
हैं

MR. SPEAKER ; Hon’ble Minister of health

MINISTER OF health -
A)माननीयमहोदया, ू हां ,
इसप्रश्नकेउत्तरमें मैं सभीकोसूचितकरनाचाहताहंकि
हमारीसरकारकेपासअबतककोविडसे संक्रमितलोगोंकीकुलसं ख्याकापूराविवरणहै ।

B)आदरणीयमहोदया, ू ाकि,
मैं विपक्षकेप्रश्नसं ख्याकेसं बंधमें उत्तरदे नाचाहं ग 15 अगस्त 2022
तककोविडसे संक्रमितलोगोंकीकुलसं ख्या 44268381 है औरबहुतदुखकीबातहै किकोविदकेकारण 527069
लोगोंकीजानचलीगई।साथहीकोविडसे ठीकहोने वालोंकीसं ख्या 43623804 है

C )अबमैं सदनकोवर्तमानस्थितिसे लड़ने केलिएहमारीसरकारद्वाराउठाएगएविवरणोंऔरउपायोंकेबारे में सूचितकरनाच

ाहताहं ू
हमारे माननीयप्रधानमं तर् ीने विभिन्नविषयोंकेबारे में चर्चाकीहै जैसेकिकोविडद्वारामृ त्यु केमु ख्यकारणऔरमहामारीकोठी
कसे रोकने केलिएक्याउचितकदमउठाएजाने चाहिए, सभीराज्योंकेमु ख्यमं त्रियोंकीमददसे उनसे समर्थनमां गागयाहै ।
बदलते विश्वदृष्टिकोणकेकारणहमप्रयोगशालाने टवर्क में लगातारसु धारकररहे हैं।
जनवरीमें , केवलकुछहीप्रयोगशालाएँ थींजोकोविडपरशोधकररहीथीं, ले किनअभीहमारे पास 1705
प्रयोगशालाएँ हैंजोकोविडकेनमूनोंपरशोधकररहीहैं ।
भविष्यमें इसीतरहकीकिसीभीस्थितिसे निपटने केलिए, हमने निम्नलिखितकदमउठाएहैं :
चिन्हितप्रवेशबिंदओ
ु ंपरनिष्क्रियनिगरानीहोगी।
प्रभावितदे शोंसेयात्राकरनेवालेऔरबख
ु ारसेपीड़ितयात्रियोंकोप्रवेशकेबिंदप
ु रस्वास्थ्यइकाईकोरिपोर्टकरनेकेलिएसचि
ू तकि
याजाएगा

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आईसीएमआरकेसहयोगसे राष्ट् रीयवे क्टरजनितरोगनियं तर् णकार्यक् रमऔरएनसीडीसीसं युक्तरूपसे कीटविज्ञाननिगरानी
कोबढ़ाएं गे।वे क्टरघनत्वऔरपिन-पॉइं टउच्चजोखिमवाले क्षेतर् ोंमें मौसमीउतार-
चढ़ावकापतालगाने केलिएवे क्टरनिगरानीपूरेवर्षहोनीचाहिए।
मैं सदनकेसभीसदस्योंकोबतानाचाहं ग ू ाकिकोविडकेखिलाफहमारीलड़ाईअभीभीजारीहै ।
एकतरफजहां हमकोविडकीहड़तालकेबादकेप्रभावसे धीरे -धीरे उबररहे हैं, वहां शायदएकऔरमहामारीकेउभरने काडरहै ,
ले किनमैं सभीकोयहबतानाचाहताहंकिू हमने एकऔरवै श्विकमहामारीउत्पन्नहोने परआवश्यककदमऔरउपायकिएहैं ।

MR. SPEAKER – QUESTION NO 102

MR SATYAJEET SETHY PLEASE

SATYAJEET – HOUNOURABLE madam through you , I would like to ask the

education minister that ……….
a) How the school education has changed after the implementation of the
national education policy 2020 ?
b) What would be the benefit of giving education in regional language ?

SPEAKER – education minister please

Amlan acharya – Hob’ble speaker madam, as the NEP 2020 is in the

implementation phase special emphasis as been given on early childhood
care and education .
The 10+2 structure is to be replaced by 5+3+3+4 curicullar structure
corresponding to ages 3-8,8-11,11-14,14-18 years respectively, The new
system will have 12 years of schooling with 3 years of anganwadi or
preschooling]

The new system will cover 4 stages :

1- Fundamental stage (In two parts That is 3 years of anganwadi or

preschooling + 2 years of in primary school in grades 1-2 both together
covering ages 3-8 )
2- Preparatory age (Grades 3-5, covering ages 11-14)
3- Middle stage (Grades 6-8 Covering ages 11-14)
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4- Secondary stage (Grades 9-12 in two phases that is 9-10 in the 1st and 11
and 12 in the 2nd covering ages 14-18)

Students will have increased flexibility and choice of subjects so that they
choose their own paths according to talents and interests. There will be
no rigid separations between arts and science, between curicullar and
extracuricullar activities, Between vocational and academic streams. The
objective is to give equal emphasis on all subjects with integration of
vocational and academic streams in school

By 2025 atleast 50% of learners thorugh the school and higher education
system shall have exposure to vocational education. beginning with
vocational exposure at early ages in the middle and secondary school
quality vocational education will be integrated smoothly into higher
education
Now I would like to move on to the 2nd part of the question

Regarding the benefits of giving education in regional languages

Madam Under the NEP2020 the medium of instruction until atleast grade
5 but preferably till grade 8 and beyond will be the home language/
mother tongue/local language/regional language.

The positive aspects of education in regional language are

Subject- specific improvement: several studies in india and other Asian

countries suggest a positive impact on learning outcomes for students
using a regional medium
Higher rate of participation: studying in native language results in higher
attendance, motivation and increased confidence, for speaking up
amongst students and improved parental involvement

Increase in gross enrollment ratio: this will help provide quality teaching
to most students and thus increase gross enrollment ratio in higher
education.

It will promote the strength, usage, and vibrancy of all Indian language.

Speaker – question number 103 .mr Pratik kumar please

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Prateek – honourable speaker madam , through you , I would like to ask
the defence minister to state the reasons why in the current situation
where india is surrounded by enemies and the chances of getting
attacked or ambushed are so high , in the same time the government
introduced the AGNEEPATH BILL which removes about 75% of all the
candidates ?
Why is the government wasting so much human resource at this crucial
time ?
Will the government please state their motives ………

Subham–honourablemadam , in answer to the question I would like to

state that we know that currently india is surrounded by so many
enemies like china , Pakistan who wishes to hamper our country . but one
thing that the house failed to notice is that where previously out of 100
applicants only 25 had been selected but now all 100 applicants are
selected through AGNEEPATH SCHEME , while 25 best will be selected
to continue their vocation , the others will not only be given a monetary
benefit of 12 lakh with business loans but also priority in several
government organization like Assam rifles , CRPF etc .

So the government’s motive by introducing this bill wishes to actually

increase the human resource of the nation and also improve the quality of
our defences . not only the 46000 vacants will be come as a major asset to
the nation but the people left will also be turned into asset to combat the
unemployement which in 2021 was 4.33 crore and 4.42 crore in 2021

Supplement question – honourable madam we all know that the

AGNEEPATH SCHEME is a scheme for the new and young generation .
But when these agniveers complete their serving to the nation for 4 years
and come out , they will be left with the knowledge of arms and
ammunition . we cant ignore the fact that these young generation maybe
misguided by anyone . so what does the government plan to do about it ?

Subham– honorable sir/mam , this country is our own and we are the
proud citzens of india so this question never arises . but still in case this
situation arises , the government has already planned this and ensured
different job oppurtunities in different field which will stop them from
being misguided .
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 And as for the knowledge of the arms and ammunition , I have already
informed the house that this scheme ensures their job oppurtunitis in
other defence sectors like CRPF and Assam rifles . so I can assure you
that you don’t have to worry about that .

RE : BREACH OF PRIVILEGE

SHRI ‘’ : Sir, a serious breach of privilege has been committed by the

leading Newspaper of Delhi, while commenting on the recommendations of the
Public Accounts committee. The paper has attributed dishonest motives and I have
requested you to allow me to raise a question on that matter now.

MR. SPEAKER : Shri ‘’, have you given notice of it earlier? You may give
due notice alongwith a copy of newspaper cutting and I shall consider it. You cannot
spring a surprise on me like this.

SHRI ‘’ : I have already given notice of it at 10.00 .AM. today,

MR. SPEAKER : It will be examined when it come to me, I shall consider it

and let you know my decision. Now papers to be laid

PAPERS TO BE LAID

MR. SPEAKER : Hon’ble Minister of Steel & Mines.

MINISTER OF STEEL &MINES : Sir, I beg to lay on the Table a copy

each of the following Notifications (Hindi & English Versions) Under sub-section
(I) of Section 28 of the Mines and Minerals (Regulation and Development) Act,
1957:-
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 (1) The Mineral Concession (Third Amendment, Rules 1987
published in Notification No. G. S.R.1002 (E) in the Gazette of
India dated 21st December, 1987.
(2) S.O.145(E) published in the Gazette of India dated the 4 th
February, 1988 authorizing the Geological Surrey of India to
carry out such detailed investigations for the purpose of
obtaining such information as may be necessary in the areas
specified in the Table annexed to the notification.
MR. SPEAKER : Hon’ble Minster for Agriculture.
MINISTER OF AGRICULTURE: Sir, I beg to lay on the Table:-
A copy each of the following papers (Hindi & English Versions) under
sub-section (1) 619 A of the Companies Act, 1956:-
(i) Review by the Government on the working of the State
Farm Corporation of India Limited, New Delhi for the
year, 1986-87
(ii) Annual Report of the State Farm Corporation of India
Limited, New Delhi, for the year 1986-87 alongwith
Audited Accounts and the comments of the Comptroller
and Auditor General there on.

MR. SPEAKER : Hon’ble Minister for Urban Development.

MINISTER FOR URBAN DEVELOPMENT: Sir, I beg to say on the

Table a copy each of the following papers (Hindi &English Versions) under
subsection (1) 619 A of the Companies Act, 1956:-

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 (i) Review by the Government on the working of the National
Mineral Development Corporation Limited, Hyderabad for the
year 1986-87.
(ii) Annual Report of the National Mineral Development Corporation
Limited, Hyderabad for the year 1986-87 alongwith Audited
Accounts and the comments of Comptroller and Auditor General
thereon.
MESSAGE FROM UPPER CHAMBER
MR. SPEAKER: Secretary to report message from Upper Chamber of Youth
Parliament.

SECRETARY; Sir, I have to report the following message received from the
Secretary of the Upper Chamber of Youth Parliament:-

In accordance with the Provisions of the rules of Procedure and conduct of

Business in the Upper House of Youth Parliament. I am directed to enclose a copy
of the Illegal Migrants (Determination by Tribunal’s) Bill, 1988, which has been
passed by the Upper Chamber at its sitting held on _______, 1988.

MR. SPEAKER : Secretary to lay on the Table a copy of the Bill as passed by
the Upper Chamber.

SECRETARY : Sir, I lay on the Table of the House, the Illegal Migrants
(Determination by Tribunals) Bill, 1988 as passed by the Upper Chamber.

WELCOME TO THE JAPANESE PARLIAMENT DELEGATION

MR. SPEAKER : Hon. Member, I have to make an announcement .

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On my own behalf of the hon. Members of the House, I have a great pleasure in
extending our warm welcome to His Excellency, speaker of the Japanese Parliament
and the Hon. Members of the Japan Parliamentary Delegation who are on a visit to
India as our honoured guests. The Hon. Members of the Delegation are :
1. Mr. Hiroyuki Hosada, Speaker,
2. Mrs.MoriMasaka,Committee on judicial affairs
3. Mrs. Arimura Haruko, committee on Cabinet ,
It is very high powered delegation. The delegation arrived on Sunday
______, 1988. they are now seated in the Special Box. We wish them a happy
and fruitful stay in our country. We also convey our warm greetings and very
best wishes through them to the President of Japan , The Prime Minister, the
Japanese Parliament, the Government and the friendly people of Japan.
CALLING ATTENTION MOTION

MR. SPEAKER : Now let us take up the Calling Attention Motion.

Mr. ‘X’, please, call the attention of the Minister.
Mr. ‘X’: Sir, I beg to call the attention of the Minister of Food & Civil
Supplies to the situation arising out of the reported inadequate supply of food grains
to the State by the Centre and the action taken by the government in this regard.
MR. SPEAKER : Yes, Mr. Minister, Please.
MINISTER OF FOOD & CIVIL SUPPLIES: Sir, the State Government/
Union Territories intimate the Central Government every month of their requirement
of food grains from the Central Pool for issue through the Public Distribution
System. The allotment of food grains to the various State/Union Territories is made
on a month- to- month basis, taking into account the availability or stocks in the
Central Pool, the relative needs of the various states, the Market availability and
other related factors. These are being reviewed every month and allocations are
made accordingly.
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 During the year 1987-88, total quantity of 153.61 lakh tones of food grains
was distributed throughout the country. This is a sizeable increase over the quantity
distributed in 1987, which was 140.26 Lakh tones. The off-take of food grains from
Central and State stocks has increased due to the failure of monsoon in many parts of
the country and consequent drought conditions. Government have been able to able
to meet the increased requirements of public distribution system, out of the stocks
that have been built up by the Government in accordance with the policy followed
by the Government during the past several years. Apart from normal allocations,
special allocations have been made by the Central Government to the State to meet
emergent situation like floods, drought and other natural calamities. Allocations have
also been made for the National Rural Employment Programme and the
Employment Generation Scheme., which primarily help the poor people in the rural
areas by providing them with works as well as food . the quantities allotted so far
under these two schemes during the year 1988-89 have been about 5.75lakh tones.

I would like to mention in this connection that the management of food economy
has to be a joint effort of the Centre and the States. The availability of the stock in
the Central Pool, which comes of help for release for public distribution system, can
be sustained and improved only with the willing procurement effort on the part of
the States, and also prudent and judicious release in consonance with the policy of
the Central Government in the interest of the country as a whole. It is, therefore, not
merely a question of demand by the State Governments and supply by the Centre but
a matter of Mutual maximization of effort regarding food management and
judicious public distribution in the context of the overall food situation in the
country.

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I may further add that the pubic distribution systems can cater to only a part of the
requirements of the people particularly the vulnerable section of society and cannot
meet the needs of the entire population.

Mr. SPEAKER : Mr. ‘X’

MR. ‘X’ : Mr. Speaker; sir, really I have to thank the chair for giving me an
opportunity to call the attention of the Agriculture Minister for taking up the
discussion with regard to the situation arising out of the inadequate supply of food
grains to the states by the Centre, that too at a time when my own state is not in
position to feed the people of Tamilnadu even for three to four weeks. ANOTHER
MEMBER : There is no water also.

Mr. ‘X’ : here we are discussing only about food grains, Sir, I know fully well
that in our country, consisting of so many States. It is the bounded duty of every
State which is a surplus state to give to the Central Pool after procuring rice or wheat
as the case may be . And I also feel hat it is the bounden duty of the Centre to send
rice to the States concerned at time when they are actually in need of it. There should
be some mutual understanding not only politically but economically also. Then only
can we create a very peaceful atmospheres, rather a pleasant atmosphere between the
States and the Centre.
Sir, as far as my State is concerned, we do not have natural resources as so
many States in this country have, we do not have Godavari or Krishna as he
mentioned here. We do not have sufficient water to cultivate out fields. But sir, when
we had rice in surplus, when we rice in abundance, we used to sent it to our Central
Pool. Specially during the year 1987. Sir, we have faced such crisis that we never
faced through out the history of Tamil Nadu . As far as I know I have never seen or
faced such a trouble or suffering. I have never seen such a crisis faced by our people
as we have faced specially during the year 1987.
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 Sir, the Hon. Minister just now stated that every month they are supplying
rice and wheat to all the States,. Sir, form June , 1987 not even a single grain has
been sent from the Central Pool to Tamil Nadu. Many times, I myself our Chief
Minister and our concerned Minister met the officials here. They did not even care to
give a proper reply to our Chief Minister or the concerned Minister of our State.
They think that Tamil Nadu people will go on without taking any food grains
continually for years together. Sir, that is the state of affairs.

I want to know specifically the Minister concerned what steps they have taken
so far when have repeatedly asked that 85,000 tones of rice should be sent to Tamil
Nadu immediately to feed that people there. Even 25 days have passed but not a
single grain has been received by us (Time Bell) (interruptions). It is just like
wailing after the child is dead. Let us not be wail over the deaths in Tamil Nadu but
please give us relief as early as possible.

MR. SPEAKER: Mr. ‘H’,

Shri ‘H’: Sir, may I draw the attention of the Hon’ble Minister to the problem
of a different State? I think he will calm down in this mood while dealing with the
problem of my States. Particularly because there is no such conflict between my
state and the Central Government.

I only want to ask some basic questions. You know that Maharashtra has
always cooperated for procurement; they never failed in contribution to the Central
Pool, whether they produce, and particularly in regard to sugar you are aware how
must we produce and how much we have contributed. Now in Maharashtra, as per
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the statement which has been given by the State Government which I am holding,
and the latest telex message, the rice situation is becoming precarious. From 75,000
tones per month, you have brought it down to 25,000tones per month, whereby the
ration allocation in Bombay has been reduced to half and in the rural areas to 25
percent of what they were getting. So , I want to know why such a reduction has
been made and whether it is possible to increase the quota of the Maharashtra State.
So, Sir I want to know from the Hon’ble Minister at the outset why this quota has
been reduced so drastically from Maharashtra, from 75,000 tones to 25,000 tones,
Similarly the quota of Maharashtra for wheat which was 45,000 tones per month has
been drastically reduced to the level of 30-35,000 tones quota for wheat has been
reduce from 30,000 tones to 20,000 tones or whatever it is. For wheat flour it was
suddenly reduced within the last month and a half, whereby the bakeries are being
starved. Along with this is another aspect. Will the Minister give me the information.
If he can as to the position in various States, particularly, Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra
and other with regard to the ration given per adult so that we can have a comparative
view? I wanted to ask him these questions, whey it was reduced, whether it would be
possible for him to allow them to purchase, and rather available to other States.
MR. SPEAKER: Mr. ‘W’
MR. ‘W’: The first point that I want to make is that complaints are coming in
larger and larger number from states as well as from the consumer that the food
grains supply by the FCI is often rotten, unfit for human consumption. There is
something rotten with the FCI itself. I would like the Food Minister to look into the
matter seriously and rectify matters lest they should get completely out of control.
This is the first which I want to make.

The Second point is that on the ________, 1987. I have got the figures here, the then
Food Minister placed on the Table of the House in reply to an Unstarred Question –
lain a statement showing the allocation and the supply from the Central Pool. If you
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go into the figures – every State has got less food then the actual allotment. This has
been there continuously for three years. These are the figures what I find from your
own statement. Therefore, the allotment of food grains by the Central Government
has no meaning whatsoever.
Now, I would like to make the third point. I have verified the facts from him
and he said that they are true. I did not want to be contradicted. Now the fact is
accordingly to the statement in Tamil Nadu after 1954-55 there has been not
procurement worth the names, that is procurement has been about 5 lakh odd tones
in the last year only and before that the procurement had been just about 20,000 to
30,000 tones maximum. May be, it was on lakh tones in one particular year but still
he has stated is that the public distribution system in Tamil Nadu is one of the best.
This is what is stated and he has also stated that in all these years through the public
distribution system on an average 30,000 tones of rice have been supplied.

I do not understand the validity of these figures. If 30,000 tones of rice per
month has been supplied on an average, it comes to about 3,60,000tones. How when
procuring 20,000, 40,000 and 50,000 tones, they would be able to supply 30,000
tones per month, unless the Tamil Nadu Government has got that mythical Akshay
Para of Drupadi? I do not understand this. Therefore, if these figures are just flung
before the people of Tamil Nadu or the people of India, they will have absolutely no
credibility whatsoever with the statements made by the Government of India.
Therefore, in their own interest, let them do the things properly. That is all I would
say with regard to that.

Mr. SPEAKER : Mr. ‘L’

MR. ‘L’ : Deficit state as far as good especially rice is concerned, the food
situation is so grave in Kerala that it now threatens into the collapse of public
distribution system.
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 The annual requirement of rice for public distribution is 20 lakh
tones .However the monthly allocation is hardly 95,000 tones. It is extremely
meager. Moreover several States has imposed restriction on the movement of food
grains. This has resulted in the arrivals of food grains in Kerala having fallen down
creating serious situation. There is failure of monsoon. The prices are rising. The
Government of Kerala has approached the Central Government for raising monthly
allocations. It is of immediate importance that the monthly allocations be increased
to the original quota of at least 1, 35,000 tones. Further the Civil Supplies
Corporation has to buy rice from surplus States for the requirement consumers
outside the statutory rationing systems. This is necessary to see that prices are kept
in check and that rice is available at reasonable rates. The Corporation has
approached the Central Government for permission should be granted immediately.
We have been asked to switch over to cash crops in order to earn foreign exchange
for the whole country. Our people have to suffer on account of his policy and they
are thinking seriously of switching back to food grains now. Our public distribution
system has been acclaimed as one of the best in the country.
MR. SPEAKER : HON’BLE MINISTER PLEASE.
MINISTER OF FOOD & CIVIL SUPPLIES : Sir, I have listened carefully
to the point raised by Hon’ble Member of this House on the subject of distribution of
food grains to the States by the Centre for their Public Distribution System. I have
due concern for the hardship being faced by some of the States due to drought and
failure of monsoon in some parts of the country. It has always been the endeavour of
this Government to help the States/UTs. In mitigating their suffering. But in spite of
our clear intentions we are some times helpless because of certain limitations.
Therefore, in view of this, I would request the affected States to kindly bear with us
in this moment for crises, have faith in us and we on our part will do our best to help
them to extent possible to meet requirements of their people.
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 My friends from Tamil Nadu, Maharashtra, Kerala and several other states
have been made points of increasing the allotment of various commodities out of
Central Pool to their States. As regards the position with regard to Tamil Nadu, I
may submit that I have already explained the position of supply rice to that State in
this House earlier in reply to questions and through statements made by me on the
subject in the House. But in spite of all our assurances the leaders from the State
choose to enter into controversy with the Centre and went on to sit on fast to press
the Centre in the matter, When the Chief Minister started his fast, I immediately
contacted him and requested him that this can be amicably settled.
Sir, with regard to the point raised in respect of Maharashtra by my friend Shri
‘H’. I may like to submit that this is only in statutory ration areas that allocation on
ration is fixed. We are not covering the entire population. It depends upon the State
Governments to issue wherever they like and wherever they find there is need. And
the entire country side is not covered by rationing for food grains. Therefore, the
information sought by him with regard to ration given per adult in various States is
irrelevant.

So far as the problem of Maharashtra is arising out of drought in some parts of

that State is concerned. I may state that a Central team has already visited and the
sanction for the adequate relief based on the recommendations of the team has also
been issued. With regard to the Shortage of food, we have, as a special case, allowed
the Maharashtra Government to purchase 40,000 tones of rice from Punjab and
Haryana.

With regard to Kerala, I may inform the House that 90-95 thousand tones of
rice has been the off take of Kerala has demanded more rice. Their request is under
consideration. This will be decided keeping in view the overall stock position in the

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Central Pool as also the requests for rice from other States during the current year. I
assure the House that to the extent possible we shall try to meet their demand.

As I have already mentioned that the management of food economy is joint

effort of the Centre and States and for its success the help and co-operation of the
States, is utmost necessary. I therefore urge upon all the States both the surplus and
deficit to kindly extend their co-operation to enable us to meet the situation during
this year which is one of drought and monsoon failure.

LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS BILL INTRODUCED

MR. SPEAKER ; Hon’ble Minister of Labour to introduce the Bill

MINISTER OF LABOUR(swetasnighdasahu); Sir, I beg to move for leave

to introduce a Bill further to amend the Employees’ Provident Funds and
miscellaneous Provisions Act. 1952 and the Indian Penal Code.

MR. SPEAKER: The question is :

“That leave be granted to introduce a Bill further to amend the Employees’

Provident Funds and miscellaneous Provisions Act, 1952 and the Indian Penal
Code”.

“Those who are in favour will please say ‘Aye’.

(The majority of the Members say ‘Aye’)
“Those who are against is please say ‘No’ ”
(A minority of the Members say ‘No’).
I think the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it. Leave is
granted.
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 Swetasnigdha: Sir, I introduce the Bill

BILL FOR CONSIDERATION

MR. SPEAKER : Now the House will take up consideration of the

COMMISSION OF ‘SATI’ (PREVENTION) BILL, 1987.
Minister, please.

MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT : Mr. Speaker,

I beg to move :

“That the Bill to provide for the more effective prevention of the commission
of Sati and its glorification and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto,
be taken into consideration”.

Sir, the House is aware of the crime of “Sati” recently committed in a village
of our country. All section of our society have shown a rare unanimity in
condemning the incident and views for the effective prevention of the commission of
‘Sati’ and it is glorification. Although the offence of attempt to commit ‘Suicide’ is
contained in Section 309 of the Indian Penal Code, and has been held by various
courts to include the commission of ‘Sati’ the punishment is not deterrent enough to
prevent such a practice. Besides, there is no provision to prohibit the glorification of
‘Sati’.
Therefore, with a view to provide more stringent punishment, to those abetting
the act of ‘Sati’ as also to prevent its glorification the Government has brought
forward this bill before this august House, Salient features, of some of the important
provisions of the Bill are as follows.

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1. The Bill defines ‘Sati’ comprehensively to include not only the
burning of burial alive of a widow with the deceased husband but
also of a widow with the husband or relative. This is because it
has come to out notice that there have been ceases where a
woman has been burnt alive with a brother or stepson.
2. Anyone who abets the commitment of ‘Sati’ would be punishable
with the maximum penalty i.e. death or imprisonment for life. the
abetment of an attempt to commit ‘Sati’ would be punishable
with imprisonment for life.
3. Those convicted of such offence shall be disqualified from
inheriting the property of the victim. Further such persons will be
disqualified under the Representation of the People’s Act, 1951
from the date of such conviction and shall continue to be
disqualified for a further period of five years after releases.
4. For the attempt to commit sati we have provided the same
punishment, as for the attempt to commit suicide in the Indian
Penal Code. However, since only a person under great pressure
or not sound in mind, would attempt to commit Sati, we have
provide that the court tying such an offence should, before
convicting any person like into consideration the circumstances
leading to the commission of the offence.
5. Glorification of Sati has been defined in detail and include
observance of ceremonies, collection of funds and construction
of temples. We propose punishment by imprisonment which may
extend to seven years for the offence of glorification of Sati.
6. The Bill also lays down procedures for setting up for special
courts and appointment of special public prosecutors.

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 7. All laws in force immediately before the commencement of the
proposed Act will stand repealed, but anything already done
under the laws so repealed shall be deemed to have been done
under the corresponding provisions of this Act.
Mr. Speaker, Sir, I am confident that the all Hon’ble Members of this House
irrespective of party affiliation will welcome the Bill whole heartedly and through it
help to eradicate this horrendous practice once for all. With these words, I now move
that the Commission of Sati(Prevention ) Bill, 1987, be taken into consideration.
MR. SPEAKER: Motion moved.
“That the Bill to provide for the more effective prevention of the commission of Sati
and its glorification and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto be
taken into consideration”. Shri ‘M’
SHRI ‘M’ : Hon’ble Speaker, Sir, I rise to support this Bill. The recent
incident of Sati has evoked widespread condemnation from all parts of the country.
The media has also played its part in highlighting this incident. Parliament has taken
full notice of it. Government has come out with legislation, a Bill which in a sense is
a symbol of its determination to fight, a symbol of its will to see that the nation does
not once again slide back into obscurantism.
Sir, we know that happened in the days of Raja Ram Mohan Roy what Mahatma
Gandhi said in his days. How he strongly condemned the practice of ‘sati’. He
condemned not only Sati but the kind of thinking behind it. How can we forget the
great role played by Rajaji in almost eradicating of this social evil from our society.
It was through his sheer tireless efforts that British Government, the rulers at Fort
William was forced to enact a Regulation called the Bengal Regulation, 1828 and
subsequently Madras Regulations, 1929, banning the act of ‘Sati’. We must also not
forget the mass awakening and education that he carried on throughout the country
which helped people to under stand how the evil of Sati was making women the
scapegoat of some fundamentalist and orthodox individual. But today, it appears that
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all the great efforts made by Rajaji are going to he dogs. We are perhaps again
moving back to the old era. This needs a serious thinking amongst intellectuals and
the regionalists.
Coming back to the Bill, I would like to say that there are no two opinions on this
Bill and I am sure that everybody in this House to whichever party he or she belongs
to, is bound to support it with full conviction.
Obscurantism and social evils have a common source. They both arise out of, as
everybody knows, social backwardness and economic backwardness. It is only when
areas remain backward that this kind of activity, this kind of thinking and social
behavior can survive. We are duty bound to fight all tendencies which offered
human nature. Take for instance animal sacrifice. Animal sacrifice clearly offends
human nature. These has been legislation and there has been movements against this.
I would call Sati nothing less than a form of human sacrifice. We have to put a stop
to this at all cost.
Sir, having said all this I have to draw your attention to the legislation itself. It is a
very good piece of law. However, since it is admitted that the woman is not in a
proper state of mind she should not be unnecessarily punished because Sati is one
hundred per cent murder. This has to be more specifically recognized in the Bill. If
the onus of the past is put totally on the other participants either through acts of
omission or commission then I feel that this practice can be effectively curbed once
and for all.
In conclusion I would also stress on the fact that socio-economic developments can
play a great role in eliminating evil tendencies. With these words I strongly support
the Bill. I thank you for having given me an opportunity to speak on it.
MR. SPEAKER ;Smt.’N’.
SMT.’N’ : Sir, It is with mixed feelings that have to address this august
House. The whole country was shocked and humiliated by the recent incident of
‘Sati’. There were women’s movements throughout the country condemning and
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demanding prevention of this type of crime and my party was in the fore-front of
these agitations. It was only after this strong reaction from the people that the
Government has been forced to bring in this legislation.
But, sir, what is painful is that the legislation which they have brought forward now
is full of flaws and have been drafted without consulting any of the women’s
organizations who are in a better position to give valuable suggestions, as they have
done a lot of work in this sphere.

This Bill provides that attempt to commit Sati will be punishable as suicide. If the
woman is forced to die, then the charges should be against her murderers and not
against herself. But that is exactly what this Bill has done. So, this is my objection
against the Bill.
The bill gives the powers to the Collector or District Magistrate to prevent
offences relating to Sati. The village level authority who are there in the area itself
should also be empowered with the necessary authority to prevent such offences if
the law has to be efficiently implemented. By the time the D.M. knows about the
crime the crime may have already been done. The women would have been burnt
already. Therefore, the need to give powers to the village authority is also required.
Donation of funds or donation of land for building Sati temples are not included as
an offence. I wonder whether this Government wants to save the big business houses
they are the biggest donors. Donation of funds or and must also constitute an offence
under this Act.
I would also suggest that Vigilance Committees should be constituted at the
village levels to effectively counter this evil practice. Social workers, Gram Sevikas
and teachers should be the members of such committees. These should be an apex
vigilance committee at the district level to coordinate the activities of the vigilance
committee.

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 Therefore, while I support the idea of bringing forward such a Bill I also
have to state that this Bill should be suitably amended, before it is passed.
SHRI ‘O’ : Sir, the Minister is not listening, She is listening to the Minister
next to her.
MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT: Sir, I am
listening.
SHRI ‘P’ : She has two ears (Laughter )
SMT. ‘N’ : Firstly the Bill seeks out the reaction any under standing that ‘Sati’ is
voluntary and, therefore, it talks only of abetment and not of the actual offence
which is ‘burying or the burning alive of woman on the funeral pyre’. It punishes the
poor woman who is a victim of social circumstances. The Bill, it appears to me says
that the woman herself is the first offender. Others are only abettors. It makes it
appear as if the act is a voluntary one on the part of the woman. Sir, Raja Ram
Mohan Roy understood it 150 years back that Sati can never be voluntary. But now
the present Government has failed to understand this. So, this is my objection
against the Bill. The Bill given enough loopholes to criminals, for instance,
encouraging the woman to remain fixed in her resolve. What can that be? That must
be punishing the woman back into the ire when she wants to escape and aiding the
woman in her decision. The loopholes must be plugged.

Another big loophole is that the offence has not been categorized as cognizable and
non-bail able. This is really surprising that a crime is punishable by death and then it
is not cognizable. This also should be gone into. The Bill as it is now, if it is passed
will not have the desired effect. It will be ineffective in preventing this terrible
crime. The woman of this country will not tolerate this and they will continue to
fight till this legislation is made more stringent.

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Sir, I may submit that through the present Bill is a good step in the direction of
combating the evil of Sati, but the real solution to the problem lies in the education
of the people. We have already one Act. Namely the Indian Penal Code dealing with
this issue which prescribed deterrent punishments to those who abet or encourage
Sati. But despite this it is a sorry state of affairs that, in our country, after
independence 41 cases of Sati have been recorded as per court records. In addition to
these 41 I do not know how many unknowns Satis have been committed and how
many women are dying without being called Sati which is more humiliating. We
many pass thousands Bills but unless we tackle the problem from sociological angle,
I doubt whether we shall be able to eradicate this evil custom. Therefore, Sir even
through I have no quarrel on the basic idea behind it I cannot support this Bill as It
is, thank you.

MR. SPEAKER : Shri ‘P’

SHRI ‘P’ : Sir, I thank you for giving me an opportunity to participate in this
debate. I will not go into the different aspects of’ Sati’ because the learned speakers
before me have already dealt with it at large. The only thing I would like to point out
is that through this Bill tries to cover one social evil, the fact remains that many
people in this country have been believing in this concept due to certain basic living
and social conditions. The government should seriously consider as to how the living
conditions of widows should be improved. This in my opinion will to a large extent
eliminate the conditions in which these sort of practice find ready breeding ground.
The Government should seriously address itself to this problem, widows should be
encouraged and helped to be able to have an independent livelihood.

I hope the Government understands my point. Social education is also

important. Legislation is only and injection. Social education is inoculation.
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Government should not only be satisfied with giving injections but also should
ensure that the people are inoculated against this disease of ‘Sati’. At the end, I
would like to say that we all must try to bring about a social revolution and root out
conservatism and fundamentalism in our country. It is not the question of women’s
right only, It is our nationalhonour and our human existence as a nation. There is
absolutely no doubt that majority of our people in India, belonging to any political
party, any caste, any religion, will join hands in this crusade against Sati to discharge
their supreme responsibility towards our construction and towards the dignity of our
women. Thank You.
MR. SPEAKER :Smt, ‘Q’
SMT. ’Q’ : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I have my head in shame that in the year, 1987
when we are planning to take the country into the 21st century, we are going to pass
this type of Bill, are we going back to the 19 th century instead of marching to the 21 st
century. It is a matter to great sorrow that steps taken by Raja Ram Mohan Roy in
1829 are required to be taken against in 1987. I feel hat a major purpose behind the
revival of this wretched practice is the greet of certain persons. This is my opinion is
the real cause behind the practice of ‘Sati’. The purpose is for getting the property
and wealth of the widow. The economic and financial motives or their relatives are
behind there foul deeds. Some villagers are also responsible for the glorifications of
‘sati’ because they want to help the people who are for the wealth of the widow.
There is no other reasoning behind it. If one day the husbands are forcibly thrown
into the funeral pyres or their wives, I am sure that this practice of Sati would come
to an abrupt halt.

I feel that this bill is a step in the right direction and the government should be
congratulated for bringing it before the House. However, I also feel that this should
also be followed by other measures on a war rooting. As my friends here who either
have implanted. I am also of the opinion that various socio-economic measure
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should be include by the Government and by all sections of the people and voluntary
organisations to nip this evil practice in the bud. Simultaneously educating and
creating awareness amongst women particularly in the countryside is also
necessary. This will go a long way totally eradicating this evil. I conclude by stating
that I support this Bill. Thank you.

MR. SPEAKER: Minister for Human Resource Development.

MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT: Sir, I am

grateful to all the Members who have supported the Bill I am also grateful to those
members who have given their constructive criticism on it. I am grateful to those
members who have given their constructive criticism on it. I am grateful for the
advice that has been given to us.
With regard to the main suggestion. I would like to say that I do agree that the
whole problem of ‘Sati’ and other such are connected with the status of women in
this country. But, I think that we have reached a stage where we are, as a national
committed to improve the status of women and give equality to them in all fields.
One of the suggestions that has been made is about the question of the victim
itself. I would like to point out that section 309 of the IPC deals with attempt to
commit suicide. Up to now when there was no other legislation. This has been the
clause under which all sati or rather all attempted Sati incidents have been dealt
with. Unless we are prepared to punish an attempt to commit a crime I cannot ask
you to punish those who abet the crime. If you say that the attempt to commit suicide
or abetment at committing Sati is a crime? And now we have introduced life
imprisonment or death penalty for such abetment.

SHRI ‘M’ : Sir, this is considered to be murder not suicide.

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 MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCES DEVELOPMENT: Sir let me
explain. I do agree that a woman who is rescued from the funeral pyre of her
husband is certainly not in a fit condition, perhaps, even to know what she was
doing. In all probability she was compelled to do it or because she had no
alternative.
We do agree that there are various circumstances because of which she might
have been compelled and she has no way put of it. Still it is and offence under the
Penal code as an attempt at suicide. As a protective thing we have said in the Act.
‘Maximum of one year imprisonment’ Even this I am prepared to concede, could be
reduced because most courts when they deal with this matter, would not even
sentence the women to one year. We have added a provision to Section 3 which
says:
“Provide that the special court tying and offence under this Section shall
before convicting any person, take into consideration the circumstances leading to
the to the commission of the offence, the act committed, the sate of mind of the
person charged to the offence at the time of the commission of the act and all other
relevant factors”.
Therefore, sir, this provision gives total discretion to the court to consider this,
offence on a different level altogether. That is why I do not think, there is any fear
that a girl, who is rescued, would be sent to jail straightway or anything.

SHRI ‘X’ : Sir, but she will be convicted. The court has the power to reduce
the sentence. But she will be convicted.

SHRI ‘M’ : Sir, she will be subject to trial.

MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT: Sir, whenever

there is a Sati case she is bound to be put in the witness box, bound to be examined
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and cross examined as she would be the Prime witness. She will have to be brought
before the court. However, as I have explained earlier she need not be convicted as
the courts are to view the case in the most sympathetic manner. You cannot have a
trial without the woman, innocent as she may be, for what has happened.
Sir, another criticism has been that this Act is meant only to come into
operation after the crime has been committed ad what we have no provision for
preventing it. I would like to point out Section 6 of the Act make substantial
provision giving powers of preventing the crime when there is either a threat or
information that such an event of crime is about to take place. And so it is preventive
also.
As regard the point raised by the Hon’ble Member that the crime is not
cognizable there seems to have been seem misunderstanding, because for any crime
where the punishment is for seven years, imprisonment for death penalty it is
automatically cognizably and non bail able, we have not mentioned it here, but the
I.P.C. Provisions automatically come into being the therefore……. SHRI ‘M’ : Not
O.P.C. the Cr. P.C.

MINISITER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENET : Yes, Cr.

P.C., I am sorry, I thank you for correcting me. It is Cr.P.C. and therefore it is both
cognizable and non-bail able and therefore, about this doubt that has been raised. I
think the matter is clear.
Sir, Hon’ble Member Shri ‘P’ had raised the question of rehabilitation of
widows, which incidentally is not directly connected with any of the provisions of
the Act. Sir, this is matter which concerns many Departments and State Govts. and
other voluntary organizations. The govt. of the State in which the recent incident to
Sati has occurred has been the first to announce that employment does not have to be
covered by age limitations. I have taken this order of the State government and

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immediately sent it to the chief Minister’s of all States with an appeal that they may
also implement similar orders in their own States.

I hope I have answered most of the points, raised by the Members in the
course of my speech. I once again thank you for your support and seed your
cooperation in implementing this measure. I request the House to pass the Bill MR.
SPEAKER : The Question is :
“That thee Bill to provide for the more effective prevention of the commission
of Sati and its glorification and for matters connected therewith or incidental thereto,
be taken into consideration”
Those who are in favour will say ‘Aye’.
(The majority of Members say ‘Aye’)
Those who are against it will say ‘No’
(A minority of the Members say ‘No’)
I think the ‘Ayes’ have it, ‘Ayes’ have it, ‘Ayes’ have it.
The motion is adopted.
Clause by clause consideration
MR.SPEAKER : Now the question is that clause 2-10 stands part of the Bill.
There is one amendment in clause 5 by Shri ‘M’ Are you moving it?

SHRI ‘M’ : No, sir, in view of the reply given by the Minister I am not
pressing my amendment.
MR. SPEAKER : Now the question is that clause 2-10 stand part of the Bill.
Those who are in favour will say ‘Aye’
(The majority of Members say ‘Aye)
Those against will say ‘No)
(A minority of Members say ‘No’)
I think the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it,
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 The emotion is adopted
Clause 2-10 stand part of the Bill.
Now the question is :
“That clause I, the enacting formula and the Title stand part of the
Bill” Those who are in favour will please say ‘Aye’. (The majority of
Members say ‘Aye’)
Those who are against it will please say ‘No’.
(A minority of Members say ‘No’.)
I think the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it, the Ayes’ have it.
The motion is adopted.
Minister for Human Resource Development please.
MINISTER FOR HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT; Sir, I move
the Bill be passed.
MR. SPEAKER : Motion moved :
“That the Bill is passed”.
Those who are in favour will please say
‘Aye’. (The majority of Members say ‘Aye’)
Those against it may please say ‘No’.
(A minority of Members say ‘No’.)
I think the ‘Ayes’ have it, the ‘Ayes’ have it, the Ayes’ have it.
The motion is adopted.
PRIVATE MEMBERS RESOLUTION

MR. SPEAKER: Now the House will take up Private Members Resolution
Shri ‘P’ to move the Resolution.
Shri ‘P’ : Sir, I move the following Resolution.
“This House recommends that the Government should –

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 (i) Take steps to combat effectively the spreading menace of drugs and
narcotics which are degenerative the nation especially the younger
generation; and
(ii) Make institutional arrangement for the rehabilitation of drug
addicts”.
Mr. speaker Sir drug addiction is one of the greatest problems
confronting our country today. It is wakening the country and destroying out
youth. Today drug taking is not the exclusive phenomenon among a selected
group of ‘Drop-outs’ in the big cities. It is now rampant in small towns and
even in villages along the length and breadth of our country.

The great tragedy is that even young children are not being spread. You
will be shocked to learn that in Bombay unsuspecting innocent children are
being made addicts by inserting the drug into sweets.
Once addicted it is almost impossible to give up the habit. The children
finally end up even resorting to crime to get the money to buy these drugs.
I feel that the main reason for the increase in drugs within our country
is because it has become a centre for international drug trafficking. There is a
lot of money involved and big guns are in the field . It is tragic that in their
greed to make money these criminal people do not hesitate even to destroy the
lives of others. Today it is not a simple law and order or health problem. The
problem has to be tackled on many fronts by the Government. I would place
the following suggestions before the Government:-
Firstly, there should be coordinate action by the various Ministers of the
Government. The menace should be combated by the Misters of finance. Home
Affairs, Welfare, Law and Health.
Secondly, the existing penalty under the law is too less. This is a business in
which crores are earned in a matter of hours. In some countries they should
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convicted drug traffickers. This may appear too much for us. But considering the
damage these people do to society we must produce so really effective deterrent
punishment. A Rs. Two Lakh penalty or a few years sentence is not enough. The
punishment for such offence should be made more severe and government should
take steps to amend the existing laws on this.
Thirdly, the Ministry of Home Affairs should ensure that drug are not
smuggled into the country through our international borders. Our country should not
be made conduit which drugs are smuggled to other countries also. The local police
forces should also be made to take the issue seriously. There should be a severe
crackdown on drug peddlers especially those operating near schools or colleges.
The Government should also mount an adequate advertisement campaign
through exhibitions radio. T.V., hoardings etc. People should be educated and made
aware of the dangers of drug addiction. Thank you.
MR. SPEAKER : Shri ‘U’
Shri ‘U’ : Mr. Speaker, Sir, I rise to support the resolution moved by the
learned member. Through you, I would like to congratulate her for having brought
forward this resolution.
I especially agree with her that the punishment is too less. I am sorry that
these people are let off lightly. I think there should be summary justice.
I feel that one can even for give a smuggler of old or a thief. But I don’t think
any one can for give a drug peddler. Sir, When some spoil the health and some spoil
the wealth. I think the drug pusher spoils health, wealth and character. This loss of
character will lead to moral degeneration take out country backwards.
I also agree with the Hon’ble Member who has introduced this resolution that
the government should co-ordinate the action against drugs by involving number of
Ministries. This drug menace is something which is not attacked now can ruin our
entire country. With these words, I support the resolution.
MR. SPEAKER : Shri ‘Z’
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 Shri ‘Z’ : Sir, at the very outset, I thank Shri ‘P’ for bringing into focus
through this resolution the enormity of the problem of drug addiction, which as he
rightly said saps the vitality or our society.
As time allotted for this debate is running out I will not take much more time
of the House. I would like to put forward two suggestions. One is that the
Government should recognize that the problem organizations should be sought.
More counseling centers run by voluntary organization should be set up.
Secondly, I would like to refer to what Shri ‘P’ said about the role of the
media. I would like to strike a note of caution here that over zealousness on the part
of the media may only help to tempt more people to take to drugs. Rather it has to be
selective and imaginative publicity that would really help us to attain the desired
results.
Sir, I must also say one thing about the spread of this menace. There are four
categories of persons who are involved. The producer, the transporter, the street
peddler and lastly the actual consumer.
Normally, it is only the peddler who is apprehended, tried and punished. The
other two namely, the producer and the transporter usually are allowed to go scot
free because they are well hidden. They are the big guns who should be punished.
The Government should take steps to rectify this state of affair is and ensure that the
first two category of persons are also arrested and given summary punishment. Then
only can this problem be controlled to some extent. With these worlds I once again
express my gratitude to the Hon'ble Member of this House Shri ‘P’ who has drawn
our pointed attention to this problem and I am sure that the Government would look
at the problem with the gravity it deserves.
MR. SPEAKER : Hon’ble Minister for Health and Family Welfare.

MINISTER OF HEALTH AND FAMILY WELFARE: Hon’ble Speaker,

Sir,
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I Congratulate the mover of the Resolution Shri ‘P’ as well as the other Hon’ble
Members who have spoken on the Resolution for focusing at the alter of public
opinion one of the vital social and health issues facing the country today. The
purpose of my intervention is only to place before the House the various efforts
made by the various Departments of the government to combat this serious menace.
Sir, I would like to submit that it law this government which brought about the
historic piece of legislation, the Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances Act,
1985. Sir, the Act enhances the punishment of rigorous imprisonment from ten to
twenty year and a fine of Rs. 2 lakhs for the first time. Even attempted/ abetment
and conspiracy have become cognizable and entail the same punishment. Rewards
for informers who contribute to detection and seizure have been enhanced from 10 to
20 percent. Special cells have been created in all customs collectorates in the
country.
There has been a sleep rise in seizures from November, 1985 to January, 1986
above 780 k.g.of heroin, 8,300 kg. of charas and 23,000 kg. of Ganja were seized. In
the last three years more narcotics and drugs have been seized than the total figure of
1985. This has been due to striker enforcement of the Act. Special drives have been
launched by the Delhi and Bombay police. Also, sea cost and land border vigilance
has been enhanced. High level meetings have been held in the border
States.

The number of prosecutions have also been increased manifold. In 1984, 1248
persons were prosecuted. In 1985, after the Act was passed. 1300 persons were
arrested and prosecuted.

Sir, coming to the health side, the facilities for treatment of drug addicts have
been inadequate. However, one of the important facts of the act is that Section 71 of

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the Act imposes on the Government the responsibility of establishment of Centers
for Drug-dead diction. An expert committee has even constituted by the Health
Ministry and I am happy to announce on behalf of the government that we have
launched a national drug-dead diction programme under the auspices of the Ministry
of Health. To start with, these de-addiction centres will be started in the four
Metropolitan cities of Delhi. Calcutta. Bombay and Madras and also in Imphal,
Varanasi, Goa, Chandigarh and Srinagar.
Voluntary organizations have been increasingly involved in this programme as
per certain schemes organised by the Ministry of Welfare. Four Camps have already
been organised. Sixteen more are being founded.
A vigorous publicity campaign has been launched. The Finance Ministry has
made available Rs. 15 lakh for this mass education and motivational programmes are
being planned.
I would like to call upon the political parties to start mass movement in the
country. Movements involving students, youth,. Women and other public
organization to come forward and help Government fighting the scour of drug abuse
which has the potential to disrupt the vary social fabric of our country.
In view of the efforts undertaken by the government to meet this problem, sir,
through you, I request Shri ‘P’ to withdraw his resolution.
MR. SPEAKER ; Shri ‘P’
SHRI ‘P’ : Sir, I am grateful to the Hon’ble Members for lending support to
my resolution . In view of the assurance given by the Hon’ble Minister and since a
law has already been enacted to deal with this menace. I hope that the Government
will take all stringent measures to eliminate this problem. Therefore, I may be
allowed to withdraw this resolution.
MR. SPEAKER : Has the Hon’ble Member leave of the House to withdraw
his resolution?

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SEVERAL MEMBERS : Yes, Yes.

MR. SPEAKER : The Resolution by leave of the House is withdrawn.

Now the House is adjourned to meet again tomorrow at 11.00 a.m.

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