A minute taking by Ven Heng Le (Class Sharing, on
Friday morning, 11th of Nov 2022)
Ven. Chang Xi
• Ven Chang xi started the session expressing his personal experience on
how Sri Lankan society reacts towards LGBTQ+
• Quoted Ven. Dhammika’s words on LGBTQ+
“If two people [are] of the same gender or two people [are] of a different gender, their
sexual actions are motivated by love and the desire to share, give comfort, or even
have fun, that wouldn’t necessarily be an immoral act . . .
Buddhist ethics about sex are primarily concerned with the motives behind our sexual
behaviour, rather than the gender of our partner.”
• Buddhist Equality, homosexuality is no better or no worse than heterosexuality,
because neither same-sex or opposite-sex relationships are distinguishable, as long as
the relationship is sincere, faithful, and mutually caring.
• Homosexual individuals are innately able to awaken and are not necessarily inferior to
heterosexual people; that is, they are capable of emancipation. Thus, Buddhism can
embrace this discriminated group.
• Personal experiences provided by others, (A gay…. As an Indian)
• All beings have Buddha mind and self-journey, we are equal focus on this. Not
important which kind is that beings
Survey (put it in the table… Numbers) You have to sit together and read
through the interview, analyze, categorize them appropriately. (Class Discussion)
• Ven S Dhammika’s Book, quoted some parts
(Ex: The story of Nakula mata and Nakula Pita)
• S Dhammika’s articles (ajahn Brahm’s views)
• Fung Kei Chang – Being different with dignity. Buddhist equality – The
triangle (Buddhist wisdom towards homosexuality) encourages the concept of being
different with dignity to boost self-acceptancenand social acceptance as guided by
Buddhist principles; pertaining to intimacy intention, Buddhist equality, essence
versus manifestation, and compatibility of precepts
Ven. Ben Hou
• There are different views among Tibetan Buddhist teachers on acceptable
• Gampopa (12th century), one of the main early masters of the Kagyu school of Tibetan
Buddhism stated that oral and anal sex, whether with a man or a woman, are violations
of the third precept regarding inappropriate sexual behavior.
• the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa, have offered understanding towards LGBTQ people
while noting that same-sex relationships do not necessarily constitute misconduct for
lay people.
• The 14th Dalai Lama has "voiced his support for the full recognition of human rights
for all people, regardless of sexual orientation," while noting that from a Buddhist
point of view, lesbian and gay sex is "generally considered sexual misconduct
• By decriminalizing homosexuality, Bhutan becomes the latest nation to take steps to
ease restrictions on same-sex relationships.
• Furthermore, Tantric Buddhism also preaches homosexual activities as one of the
ways to raise the creative energy, kundalini, and thereby gain enlightenment.
• Sexual misconduct: Sexual misconduct for men and women consists of oral and
anal sex . . . Even with your wife, using one’s mouth or other hole is sexual
misconduct. Using one’s hand, that is sexual misconduct
Jie Xing
• Ven Jie Xing was mainly focused on some of the Vinaya rules; pātimokkha.
• He pointed out the rules related to indefinite offences. (Physical closeness and private
conversation)
• Further, he explained about rules related with confession offences “If a bhikkhu sleeps
in a place where there is a surrounding wall and under the same roof with a woman,
even for one night, it is an offence of Confession.
