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Skills Test 1A & 1B finances… there really is no limit and every indication is
that it is going to continue to grow.
Listening Skills Track 2
Host And so that is why you think the Internet Age is still
just beginning. So what does the future hold?
Host Hello again and welcome to today’s edition of ‘One on
One’, the show where we talk about the technologies that Tim Duncan Well, there have been many predictions
shape our world and think about where they might be taking regarding the future of computing and the vast majority of
us. Today’s special guest is Dr Tim Duncan, a former them, really with just one or two exceptions, have
lecturer in computer studies, now a computer programmer underestimated just how important computers have become
and the author of several books on the so-called ‘Internet in our daily lives. I think the only certain things are that
Age’ including An Online World and Internet 2.0, making computers will remain central to our lives, and that we will
him a well-known expert on the Internet in the modern use them in more and more ways, including ways that we
world and one who frequently appears on our screens, simply cannot guess at the moment.
though he has not been on this programme before today. I believe our computers will become remote controls for
Dr Duncan, welcome to ‘One on One’. everything we have – everything in our houses, schools and
Tim Duncan Thank you very much. Please, call me Tim. cities. Computers will collect ‘real time’ data so we won’t
Just one correction: I’m not a computer programmer, though just look at a railway timetable, for example, but we’ll be
I have been a consultant for many companies that produce able to see where each train is and watch it move towards
computer programmes. the station. Or you could order a meal in a restaurant and
watch it being made.
Host Tim, right. Many people, including yourself, have said
that we’re living in the middle of the Internet Age. Why do Host That would be amazing!
you call it that? Tim Duncan Some of these things are already almost
Tim Duncan Well, first of all let me just correct that. I think possible today with things like Google Earth and so on. The
that the Internet Age has only just begun, not that we’re in key requirements for these changes are getting a fast
the middle of it. enough connection for the data and for the computers to be
small enough to be portable, which is why I think that
Host I see.
mobile phones and computers will probably soon be the
Tim Duncan You know, sometimes it feels like computers same thing – phones that are computers or computers that
and the Internet have been around for ever but in fact can make calls, as you prefer.
they’re very recent inventions, especially the Internet. I’m
Host A lot to think about, for sure. Fascinating stuff.
not that old – I’m in my forties actually – but I can remember
Doctor Tim Duncan, thank you very much for joining us this
as a teenager in class the closest I’d got to a computer was
afternoon.
seeing one in a film. There wasn’t even one in the
headmaster’s office. Even after that when I was a student Tim Duncan No problem at all, it’s been a pleasure.
they were quite uncommon. Nowadays all that has changed. Host OK, next up we have…
Host Yes, computers are everywhere these days.
Tim Duncan They are and it’s not unusual for one person Skills Test 2A & 2B
to have two or even more computers, especially if we
include computers they use at work. But the number of Listening Skills Track 3
computers isn’t the only change we’re talking about.
Ruth Hey Luke, have you seen this in the paper? It’s an
Host What other changes are you thinking about, then?
article about role models, it’s pretty interesting…
Tim Duncan Well, there are three other main changes.
Luke Yeah? What does it say?
First, the age of computer users has fallen dramatically.
When I was a student, computers were used mainly by older Ruth It talks about whether role models are a positive
people – scientists, specialists, maybe people in finance and influence on young people. There’s not much of
so on. Today, computer use has increased in all groups but a conclusion, though, it doesn’t really come down on either
especially amongst the young: nowadays computers are side.
used more by young people than by older people – studies Luke It depends on the role model, doesn’t it? I mean, you
in the U.S. suggest over 90% of people aged 13–19 go online can choose better or worse people, can’t you?
regularly, compared with under 40% of over 65s. Ruth Yes, but it also depends where they come from.
Second, the amount of time people spend on their Luke You mean which country? Why does that matter?
computers has increased, with spending over half the time
Ruth No! I mean what they do. I mean, the things that we
you are awake on a computer not unusual.
like about sports stars are different from the things we like
Finally, how we use computers has changed. Computers about, say, people in our families.
were used almost exclusively for work purposes twenty
Luke I suppose that’s true. So do you think sports stars are
years ago or so, with very few people doing anything else,
good role models? Maybe for boys if they’re really into
but now they are used for almost every part of our lives:
sport?
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Ruth Well, a lot of sports stars are very impressive in what Skills Test 3A & 3B
they do, I think we can admire that side of them. But on the
other hand, sport is all about competition and beating your Listening Skills Track 4
opponents and it often includes a lot of aggression as well,
and I don’t think that’s a good basis for a role model whether Host …and our guest today is Dr Mark Jansen, an expert
it’s for a boy or a girl. on addictions of all kinds. Dr Jansen, welcome.

Luke But not all sport is about aggression. Sport is also Mark Jansen Thank you very much.
about dedication, determination, sportsmanship and talent. Host We’re all familiar with many kinds of addictions and
And anyway, people might have a role model from sport for some very dangerous and serious ones such as addictions to
other reasons, because of what they have said or done apart drugs and so on. Some of the addictions we’re going to
from sport, like charity work or political work, for example. discuss today are no less dangerous but what they have in
Ruth A lot of people choose famous role models, don’t common is that they are all rather less well-known
they? But I’ve never understood why somebody would addictions.
choose a fictional character, like a character from a film. My Mark Jansen Right. Well, I suppose we can start with
brother used to idolise Clint Eastwood and tried to copy his something that everybody needs and, I guess, something
way of speaking from the westerns he used to watch. I love that everybody does: eating.
watching Clint Eastwood act but, you know, what looks good Host Ah, you mean like chocoholics? I read about those –
on the screen doesn’t always work in real life. When I was people addicted to chocolate…
younger my role models were all singers. I used to try to
Mark Jansen Not quite. I’m talking about eating itself, not
dress like Madonna, I changed my hair to look like her.
the food that is eaten. It’s actually not as uncommon as you
I even tried to talk like her. I think I thought it was how to
might think. People who are addicted to food tend to eat far
become more cool in school to be honest, and I think a lot of
too much, obviously, but that’s not all. They can start to
people do the same thing.
need food to be happy and to feel very down and irritable
Luke OK, so you copied her appearance. Is that really when they can’t eat – typically at work.
a role model, though? I think it’s more about how somebody
Host Yes, I can imagine. What about the chocoholics, then?
behaves or what they think, not just how they look. The
Mark Jansen Chocoholics, as you said, are people who
singer Bono’s activism always impressed me, that was who
cannot stop themselves from eating chocolate. It’s possible
I modelled myself on for years.
for people to be addicted to other foods, but chocolate is the
Ruth Maybe. What about role models from the past? Some
most common, partly because it’s very easy to get, partly
people’s heroes are from history rather than sport or
because it just tastes good but mostly because chocolate
entertainment. I think that kind of role model can be great.
causes some chemical changes in the brain that make us feel
Luke It’s quite an odd choice, I think, but if you choose the very good. So chocolate has a chemical aspect as well as just
right person then it can be good, and there are certainly tasting nice and that makes it a hard addiction to beat.
a lot to choose from! At least if your role model is a historical
Host I see. What about addictions not connected with food
figure then you know what you’re choosing – you won’t have
or eating?
any nasty surprises from them!
Mark Jansen A very common addiction, that people don’t
Ruth That’s true. But overall, I think the best role models
always take as seriously as they should, is addiction to
are the ones we know best.
shopping. We can say a person is addicted to shopping to
Luke You mean from your family? some degree when they go shopping regularly not for things
Ruth Mainly, yes, but other people too, like teachers or that they need or want, but just to go shopping.
other people that you know. I think those kinds of role Host I’m not sure I understand.
models are better because they’re real people, not just
Mark Jansen What I mean is that, for shopaholics, it
a public image.
doesn’t matter what they buy as long as they’re buying
Luke Why is that better? something. The shopping is what matters, not the things
Ruth Because real people have real problems and you can they buy. As with all addictions, shopaholics go shopping to
learn from them. And people we know live in the same world give themselves pleasure and feel irritable or angry if they
we do, so their example is more useful and easier to relate to. don’t go shopping often enough.
Luke Well, I think most people would agree with you, and Host Is this addiction more common for women or for men?
I agree that everybody needs a role model of some kind, Mark Jansen Both sexes can be shopaholics, though they
especially when they’re young. But I think real people might might shop for different things. For men, it’s usually
often be negative role models rather than positive ones, electronic things like telephones or other gadgets, while for
especially because we never know what they’re going to do women it’s often clothes or accessories like bags or hats.
next. Sometimes an ideal is better, even if it’s made up. This is really a modern addiction and aspects of our modern
Ruth You’re so cynical sometimes! world such as shopping centres and credit cards have made
Luke Just a realist, Ruth, just a realist… it much more common.
Host Which other addictions can be called ‘modern
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 Mark Jansen Computer games can be very addictive, for a circus. In fact, when I was a child I used to go to the circus
all sorts of reasons. The competitive element is strongly and street performances remind me of that: they’re chaotic
addictive for some people, making people play more and and carefree, not worried about rules or regulations or work
more because they want to do better than their friends. And or time, just interested in having a good time. When I watch
for some people games can be an alternative reality, a place them that’s how I feel, at least for a time.
where dreams can come true for people who perhaps 3
haven’t achieved all they would like to in real life.
Al Look, I don’t mind people listening to buskers or
Host A lot of people play computer games regularly watching some other kinds of street performance at all but
without it being an addiction, though, sometimes spending I just don’t think they should be all over the city performing
a long time on them. When does it change from just a hobby wherever they want whenever they want. It’s chaotic and
to an addiction? disorganised and I don’t think that’s how things should be.
Mark Jansen That’s a very good question and the answer I mean, you don’t have football teams playing wherever they
is that it becomes an addiction when you can’t control it any like, or ballet troupes dancing in the middle of the road, do
more, when you don’t play because playing makes you you? I don’t see why street performers should be a special
happy but you play because not playing makes you sad. case. There are plenty of halls and theatres they could use,
When you’re playing because you have to, that’s when it’s an where people could pay for tickets before they go in. More
addiction. money for the performers and less chaos around town,
Host Right. Are games the only addictive things on everybody wins.
computers? 4
Mark Jansen No, certainly not. In fact, they may not even Don I have mixed feelings about street performers. On the
be the most addictive thing. Social networking sites can be one hand they look great: sometimes dramatic, sometimes
highly addictive, for example, with people obsessively funny and always original. Unfortunately, they have
checking their messages, refreshing their pages and so on. a negative effect on the appearance of the city itself. It’s not
In extreme cases a person’s ‘Internet self’ can become more really their fault, but they attract crowds who leave litter
important to them than their real selves, to the extent that behind and so on. You can always tell where a street
they stop caring what people say about them in real life but performer was because there are bags and drink cans lying
can’t stand any criticism online, reacting angrily and around on the street. It really doesn’t do anything good for
aggressively. the city’s attractiveness in my opinion.
Host You mean they pay more attention to their reputation 4
online than in real life? Barbara I think street performers are great entertainment
Mark Jansen Yes, but not only that. Some people spend and I love to watch them. So does my family – the children
hours on their ‘Internet appearance’ – choosing an avatar, like dancing troupes best of all but I’ll watch any of them –
setting their status and so on – an amount of time that they and we always give them a little something. The best thing
would never spend on their real appearance. When the about them, though, is that they bring in extra visitors.
virtual world becomes more important to you than the real Cities with lots of street performers are more attractive to
world, that’s a telling sign of addiction. tourists and that’s very good because they will come and
Host It certainly is. Well, that’s all we’ve got time for. spend money, which is good for the shops and the people in
Dr Mark Jansen, thank you very much. the town.
Mark Jansen Thank you.
Skills Test 5A & 5B
Skills Test 4A & 4B Listening Skills Track 6

Listening Skills Track 5

Simon Annie, I’ve been thinking. I think we should decide
on some house rules.
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Annie House rules? I don’t like the sound of that!
Sue I like watching street performers sometimes, especially
the ones who breathe fire. They can be really spectacular! Simon Why not?
But – and I know this isn’t fair – I just don’t feel safe when Annie Rules to tell us what we can and can’t do? Why
I see some of them because of their appearance, with long would we need something like that? It would be like living in
hair and tattoos and piercings and so on. It just looks so school!
aggressive to me. I know it’s just a feeling and, in fact, I even Simon No, no, I don’t mean anything like that. I mean
read an article once that said there isn’t as much agreeing how we’re going to help each other with things like
lawbreaking when there are street performers around tidying, washing, cooking and so on.
because of all the crowds. I can’t help how I feel, though.
Annie Ah, that kind of rules. OK. You had me worried for
2 a moment!
Terry I love street performers. I love the fact they perform Simon Sorry. I’ve got a few ideas. Let’s talk about cooking.
outside, without a stage, out in the sounds and the smells of
Annie Cooking? OK. I think you should do the cooking
the street. It’s something free and full of energy, like
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Simon In that case you need the practice! Seriously, to send in front of me in the queue. Look… why don’t we do
though, I think we should cook for each other on different it together?
days. That way one of us will have a free evening every day. Annie You mean both of us go?
And you’re not a bad cook anyway. I like your cooking.
Simon Yeah. We can keep each other company so it won’t
Annie Thanks! So how do you want to organise it? Should be so boring, and then we can do some shopping afterwards.
we take turns? It’s good dividing up the housework but it’s nice to do things
Simon I suppose we could take turns, so I’d cook on together as well… We can go on Thursdays when there
Monday, you on Tuesday, me on Wednesday and so on. aren’t as many people.
That’s possible. But I think another way might be better. Annie That’s a really good idea! Yeah, that will be really
Annie Such as? nice. Er, Simon… you know what day it is, don’t you? Get
Simon Well, you’re really busy during the week with your your coat, there are two bills here.
lectures at the university and I’m always busy at the Simon Two… oh, er… just a minute…
weekend with my classes at music school, so why don’t
I cook during the week when you’ve got no time and you
cook at the weekend when I’m busy? Skills Test 6A & 6B
Annie Sounds good. You’ll be cooking five days and I’ll only Listening Skills Track 7
have two. Is that OK?
Simon I think so. I don’t mind cooking a bit more, it’s fun. Host … and for today’s phone-in we’re asking for your
opinions on newspapers. Do you read newspapers? If so,
Annie Great. Well that’s cooking, what about deciding on
how often? What do you look for in your newspaper? Do
some other house ‘rules’. What about washing-up, for
traditional newspapers have a future or will they disappear?
example?
We’ll be taking your calls until 6 o’clock so if you’ve got
Simon I hate washing-up! something to say then pick up the phone and give us a call…
Annie So do I! But we haven’t got a dishwasher so …and we’ve got our first caller this afternoon. To remind
somebody has to do it. How about this: since you’re doing you, we’re talking about newspapers and our first caller is
most of the cooking I can do most of the washing-up. Sally from Nottingham. Hi Sally, what would you like to say?
Simon OK, I don’t mind that at all! But you shouldn’t do all Sally I think today’s newspapers are terrible! They’re just
of it, I should do some washing-up as well. full of sensationalist nonsense about TV stars and
Annie Maybe we can take turns like with cooking, but the sportspeople. Personally, I think there are too many
other way round. newspapers.

Simon You mean when I cook you wash up and vice-versa? Host Too many? Why do you think it would be better if
Yeah, that sounds fair. there were fewer?

Annie OK. Ah, what about tidying up? We need to keep the Sally Because then they wouldn’t have to fight so hard to
house tidy, so who’s going to do that? get readers and they could have some more intelligent
stories. At the moment they’re all trying to get more readers
Simon Well, we should both definitely keep our own rooms
so they can sell more advertising and that’s why the papers
tidy. What about the rest of the flat, though? I think the
are full of scandal and gossip in my opinion.
kitchen and the bathroom are the hardest to tidy. Maybe we
should take one each? Host Thank you very much, Sally. Well, that’s a pretty
strong opinion to start us off! I wonder if our other callers
Annie I’ll tidy the bathroom and the hall if you tidy the
will agree with Sally. We’ve got another caller on the line, it’s
kitchen and the living room.
Darren from Liverpool. Hi Darren, what’s your comment?
Simon But the living room is bigger than the hall and it
Darren Hi. Look, if somebody wants to read about politics
takes much longer to tidy. Let’s swap each week, one week
then they can buy that kind of paper and if they want to
I’ll do the living room and the kitchen, the next you do them.
read about scandals and celebrity gossip then they can read
OK?
a different one, everybody can choose one they like because
Annie OK. Is that everything now? there are so many. It’s all a question of choice and reducing
Simon Just one more thing. Somebody has to deal with all the number of papers might make it a bit simpler but you’d
the bills. You know, go to the post office every week and pay end up reading something you didn’t like.
them. Host Thanks Darren. Next on the line is Rob from
Annie Oh yeah. I hate going to the post office. There are Brighton. What’s your point, Rob?
always such long queues and it seems to take all afternoon Rob I don’t understand why people are talking about which
whenever I go, even if it’s only really ten minutes! But newspaper to read. Why not read all of them?
I know you hate it as well.
Host I’m not sure I understand. There are ten or more daily
Simon You should try going in the morning then. newspapers in Britain, are you saying you buy them all and
Annie I do when I don’t have lessons in the morning. It’s read them all?
just the same. Rob No, of course not! You don’t have to buy them because
Simon Anyway, it doesn’t take that long but it’s just so almost all of them are available online for free. I don’t pay to
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 Host So you read all of them online? even if you don’t like it. It’s the middle of the summer. All
Rob No, I was exaggerating. I wouldn’t have the time or the the other campsites will be full.
patience for that! But I never know what papers I’m going to Woman: I still want to come with you. We can lock the
read. I just choose stories that interest me from different car. It will be safe for ten minutes.
papers online. I don’t have a favourite paper or one that 2
I always read from cover to cover; I just choose the most This is the town of Sandhaven on the south coast of
interesting stories from any of them, it just depends who’s England. Between the wars, thousands of people came
reporting what on any particular day. here for the weekend from London to enjoy the sea and
Host An interesting approach, I wonder if any other of our other entertainment. Now the theatre has closed and the
listeners do similarly. John from Swansea is our next caller. restaurants and hotels look faded and sad. Sandhaven
Hi John. still attracts tourists. It is cheaper than other resorts,
although, maybe, not as cheap as it should be. While I
John Afternoon. I don’t think there’s any ‘right’ way to read
personally would prefer somewhere a little more modern
newspapers at all. I think everybody should use their
and exciting, I can understand why some like its quiet,
newspaper however they like, and if somebody likes reading
old-fashioned atmosphere.
about gossip and scandal then why shouldn’t they? Or if
somebody is really interested in politics then they can read 3
about that. Personally, I mainly read the entertainment Man: This is ridiculous.
sections in my local paper because I like keeping up to date Woman: I know. We arrived so early and we’re still here.
with what’s on at the cinema or on TV and I always have to Man: It’s lucky the flight was delayed. We should be
check how my team played at the weekend. I just use the halfway to Turkey by now.
newspaper for keeping up to date with things like that,
Woman: Instead, we’re still here with our suitcases.
making sure I don’t miss things I’m interested in.
Man: Wait a minute. The queue’s moving. Don’t let
Host Thanks very much John. OK, our final caller before anyone get in front of us.
the news is Jane, who is from Portsmouth. Good afternoon
Woman: Don’t worry! It’s our turn next. When we’ve
Jane, what’s your comment?
done this, we just have to show our passports, go through
Jane Hi. I’d just like to say that I don’t see why reading security and then we can relax.
about stars and celebrities is a bad thing. I’m not interested
Man: If our plane hasn’t left already!
in politics and economics and I read papers for a bit of fun
and entertainment, not to be bored or depressed. I like
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reading about what famous people are doing or saying,
especially if something interesting is happening like 1
a wedding or something. I’m overweight. It worried me sometimes but I had never
Host Just for entertainment, then, not for any other bothered with a diet before. Then a friend recommended
reason? one which involved eating only meat. I love meat so I tried it
and I managed to lose a few kilograms quite quickly. Then I
Jane No, not just for entertainment. I get ideas about read that it was bad for my heart. The more I read about
clothes or hair styles from the papers, for example. At the it, the less I understand. Some people say it’s safe, others
moment I’ve got my hair done like Angelina Jolie, I took her say that it isn’t. I don’t know who to believe.
picture to my hairdresser’s to make sure it looked just right.
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Host I might try that myself, though I’m not sure I’ve got
The problem with diets is that they make you think about
enough hair! Thanks very much, Jane, some very interesting food all the time and the diet is often so boring that you
views there. And now it’s coming up to 6 o’clock and time have a tasty treat to cheer yourself up. That’s why all the
for the news with Lucy Price, our newsreader. Lucy. diets I’ve tried have been useless. The strange thing is
that, when I don’t diet, I seem to lose weight quite easily.
It’s very confusing. I think it’s because, when I’m not on
MATURA TEST, POZIOM ROZSZERZONY a diet, I don’t think about food and, quite often I’m too
Zadanie 1 Track 8 busy to eat. So why do I go on diets? That’s a good
question!
1 3
Man: Here we are. I wanted to lose weight for my wedding so, when I read
Woman: At last. Can we go in and put up the tent? about a new diet, I decided to try it. It listed exactly what
Man: No, not yet. They’ll tell us where to go and give us a you should eat and when, which means that it was very
map. I’ll go and let them know we’re here. You stay in the easy to follow. Often diet information is very confusing
car. which is why I have given up several. This one is great.
I’ve lost 10 kilograms in a month and I enjoy the food I’m
Woman: No, I’ll come with you. There may be some
allowed to eat. I’ve told all my friends about it and they’re
other useful information about the local area. I’d like to
happy with it, too.
find out what there is to do here. I’d like to see what the
campsite looks like, too.
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4 understanding their characters and finding out

You hear so much about diets and health. My friend everything
recommended one to me. Eat only cabbage soup, he said. I need to know simply from a one to one chat. I think
I can’t understand why anyone would want to do that. roleplaying activities have become fashionable and
Food is one of the great pleasures in life. I eat what I people use them just because they think they should.
want. If I wanted to lose weight, I could, easily, but at the I don’t understand why employers waste so much time
moment I don’t need to. Why? Because I get plenty of on them. If you’re confident in your own abilities, as I am,
exercise. you don’t need them.
Radio show host: OK, well I can certainly see that
Zadanie 3 Track 10 you’re a confident person. Thank you very much for
Radio show host: On today’s show, we’re talking about job talking to us.
interviews and our guest is the manager of a local company.
Welcome, Annie.
Business woman: Thank you.
Radio show host: So, can you tell us about good and bad
job candidates?
Business woman: Well, first of all, let me tell you
something I did recently. I sat in reception, in place of the
usual receptionist, and waited for some job applicants to
arrive. Some of them were so rude to me. They were
arrogant and felt they were better than me. When they had
all arrived, I went upstairs to greet them. Those who had
been rude I sent away without an interview. It saved time
and the look on their faces was wonderful!
Radio show host: What a great idea! What other things
prevent someone getting a job?
Business woman: Well, the obvious thing is appearance.
We work in advertising and the people working here have to
meet clients. They are expected to look professional at all
times. Some people come to interviews in casual clothes.
Baggy jeans and old sweatshirts. One boy even wore a
baseball cap.
Radio show host: So, do you reject badly dressed
applicants straightaway?
Business woman: No. I realise that some young people
have no idea what they should wear. It seems obvious but
it isn’t always. So, I ask them why they decided to wear
what they did. If they have a good reason or accept my
criticisms of their clothes, I’ll give them a chance. Some,
though, get very upset when I point out that they should
have worn something different. They argue back or moan
that they don’t like looking smart because it isn’t cool.
Their interviews don’t last very long!
Radio show host: What about general appearance? Is it
easier to find work if you are good-looking?
Business woman: I’m afraid it often is although I try not
to be influenced too much. Some people also believe that
good looks are all they need. During the interview, they
smile, play with their hair, sit as if in a photographer’s
studio and don’t really answer my questions. It doesn’t
happen often. Not many attractive people are like that
but a few are. One man acted as if we were on a date
rather than in an interview! He was gorgeous but I
wanted an employee, not a boyfriend so he failed, I’m
afraid!
Radio show host: Oh dear! One last question, Annie, do
you set your applicants any team working activities to
see how well they get on and work together?
Business woman: Well, I know about such activities of
course and I have used them in the past but, now I have
interviewed so many people that I think I’m very good at
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