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What's next in A&D? WWD Q4 results initial guidance Monday. For FY25 we are slightly Matthew Akers, CFA
Equity Analyst | Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
ahead in Aero with 10% growth (consensus HSD), and our Industrial EBIT outlook is below
on China OH, though lower gas price could support a strong start to the year. Luke Leone
Associate Equity Analyst | Wells Fargo Securities, LLC
Further to run in aerospace: We prefer the suppliers over BA as the impact of slower
737/787 rate ramps is limited, the aerospace cycle is still years away from peak, and
aftermarket likely holds up well on strong flying demand and an attractive mix of older
aircraft in the fleet. We are OW-rated on GE, HWM, HXL, and RTX, and are UW on BA
where we see peak FCF in the coming years driven by new aircraft investment with further
risk to cash flow.
Cautious on defense/Fed IT: Spending remains capped by the debt ceiling deal, another
debt ceiling negotiation is coming up in January, and spending trends look unlikely to
change post election. Margins could start to improve beyond 2024. For services, we are
skeptical that DOGE will result in meaningful spending cuts, and estimate the stocks
now price in flat to lower spending. We are OW-rated on BAH, CACI, LDOS, and LHX in
defense/Fed IT.
Still Too Early in Space: We see a strong multi-year growth outlook for space, although
many companies must first survive years of cash outflows. Within Space, we are Equal
Weight on RKLB, Underweight on SPCE.
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•2025 consensus margins look low to us, with incrementals in the low 30s
Most •Limited capex need over coming years with strong FCF conversion of >100% through at least 2026
HXL OW $61 $78 27%
Preferred •Aerospace composite is likely to grow 6x compared to commercial aero at 2-3x as next generation
narrowbodies use much more composite
•GTF-powered aircraft peaked in Q2, and investors should start to look past the near-term GTF
costs
RTX OW $121 $140 16% • Defense margin recovery as Raytheon breakeven EACs add ~250bps (to 11.5%) while returning to
pre-merger EAC level adds ~450bps (to 13%)
•Defense business should improve on program transitions and better international mix
•OSI's security segment (~80% of profits) is poised for strong growth in addition to potential market
share gain from Smiths Group and LDOS as peers focus on other areas
OSIS OW $165 $172 4% •We see margin expansion opportunity as revenue shifts towards services vs OE. Longer term, OSIS
turnkey product offerings and new software should come in at accretive margins
•Potential benefiary of border security spending under new Trump Administration
•Highest margin upside in our coverage from EACs returning to normal (~10% to EPS).
•Guidance looks beatable in 2024 as margins improve on LHX Next savings, better mix, improving
LHX OW $248 $295 19%
EACs
•Divestiture of CAS business pulls forward deleveraging by ~6 months
•Highest aftermarket exposure in the group which drives strong pricing/margins and less downside
if macro slows
GE OW $181 $210 16%
•Strong management team with a clean balance sheet provides flexible capital deployment
•Opportunity to cut costs by 300-500 bps of SG&A in coming years
•FY25 growth likely comes in ahead of expectations on EITaaS, Spectral, optical comms ramps
CACI OW $469 $637 36%
•Mix should benefit margins as CACI pursues more profitable technology work
•Tracking below 2024 guidance on G700 deliveries, unclear when Marine supply chain issues clear.
GD EW $282 $322 14% •Hard to see upside to consensus Gulfstream 2025-26 unlesss orders meaningfully accelerate.
•Strong cash into 2025 on G700 inventory and AJAX contract receivable
•Company has done a nice job managing guidance/investor expectations, now a consistent
beat/raise story
SAIC EW $124 $157 26%
•Capital deployment to become more of a factor with leverage at target level
•Needs to fix its recompete win rate, which has weighed on growth in recent years
•BA missed its generational FCF opportunity due to delays and additional costs. We now see FCF
peaking in 2027 due to new aircraft investment.
•Further share dilution is likely with current debt levels consuming all cash through 2030.
BA UW $149 $85 -43%
•SPR integration, softening airlines yields, FAA pressure, 777x delays, and Starliner issues may
weigh on cash.
•Asset sales could help accelerate balance sheet repair.
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Recent Research
Fed IT Selloff Looks Overdone, But Bear Case Hard To Disprove
Takeaways from Our Debt Restructuring Expert Call
A&D Implications from a Trump Victory
Examining Credit Metrics Post Raise; How Much Can Asset Sales Help?
Sentiment Improves On Offer #3, Still ~80/20 Against
Capital Raise Covers Near-Term Liquidity Needs, Further Work to Do Beyond
Pre-Announcement Gives Short-Term Cash Reprieve
Union Talks Break Off Again—Equity Raise on the Way
Reviewing BA Equity Raise/Cost Cut Scenarios and Supplier Impact
Boeing Strike Thoughts—Market Could Still Be Underestimating Risks
No Longer an Operations Story — Debates on Our Downgrade and Union Deal Thoughts
Cash Opportunity out the Door—Downgrade to Underweight
A&D Rate Cut Analysis—Most Positive for NOC/SAIC/LHX/BAH/TDG
Election Implications for A&D—Negative for BA, Still Tough for Defense
A&D Day 2 Takeaways from the 2024 Wells Fargo Industrials Conference
A&D Day 1 Takeaways from the 2024 Wells Fargo Industrials Conference
Defense & Fed IT: Looking for Reasons to Get Positive in Defense
HXL: Upside to Numbers, CEO Fears Overdone—Upgrade to OW
Aerospace:
Aftermarket Survey: Lower in November as Volumes Slow
Production Tracker: Slowdown in Effect Across Commercial Aero
September Passenger Traffic +7% YOY, Still 23% Below Pre-COVID Trend
Bizjet Traffic Continues to Drift Lower
Fleet Monitor: Deliveries, Retirements Still Low, Parked Planes Back to Pre-COVID Range
GTF Recall Tracker—AOGs Tick Lower Again
Tracking 777X Flight Test Progress
Takeaways from Aero Engines Expert Call — Positive for GE, RTX, HWM
SPR Offer Probably Good Enough; Removes One of Many Overhangs on Stock
Expert Call Takeaways: Election Probably Won't Save Defense
GE: Cost Opportunity Likely 2x+ Company Target — Raising Estimates/PT
RTX: Potential Upside Beyond the Recall; Upgrade to OW
GE: Deep Dive into Commercial Aero Engines: GE Aero Deserves a Higher Multiple
Defense/Services:
Fed IT Monthly: DoD Outlays Better than Civil in Q3
Finds Another Attractive Acquisition at a Good Price
Defense: Senate Markup Analysis - GD/LMT Win Again
Defense: House Markup Boosts LMT/GD Programs, Trims RTX/BA/NOC
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Aerospace
BA FCF NM NM NM NM NM NM NM NM
GE EPS 18% 5% 3% 2% 10% 1% 1% 0%
HWM EPS 24% 12% 4% 3% 23% 10% 2% 2%
HXL EPS -18% -9% -4% -1% -22% -16% -10% -5%
TDG EPS 5% 4% 2% 1% -1% -3% -7% -5%
WWD EPS 18% 0% 0% 0% 0% -7% -2% 0%
Defense
GD EPS -7% -4% -4% -2% -2% -2% -2% -2%
LHX EPS -1% 1% 0% 0% -1% 1% 0% 0%
LMT EPS 0% 2% 1% 1% -1% 0% -2% -2%
NOC EPS 7% 5% 3% 3% 2% 2% 1% 1%
RTX EPS 3% 3% 2% 2% -4% 0% 0% 0%
Government Services
BAH EPS 15% 7% 4% 4% -2% 5% 6%
CACI EPS 6% 2% 3% 3% 8% 5% 5% 5%
LDOS EPS 31% 16% 10% 10% 24% 13% 10% 9%
SAIC EPS 7% 1% 2% 0% 5% 0% 1% 0%
Source: FactSet
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Large-Cap Defense 19.8x 17.6x 12.4x 11.5x 22.9x 21.6x 23.2x 20.5x
BAE Systems BA-LN n/a £66.97 £49.67 19.3x 17.0x 11.8x 10.6x 23.9x 21.2x
General Dynamics GD EW $279.93 $77.0 20.4x 17.5x n/a n/a 21.8x 15.2x 23.2x 19.6x
L3Harris Technologies LHX OW $246.60 $46.3 18.9x 17.0x 12.9x 12.5x 19.2x 18.0x 21.9x 18.9x
Lockheed Martin LMT EW $542.01 $126.7 20.3x 19.6x n/a n/a 20.3x 22.9x 27.9x 24.8x
Raytheon Technologies RTX OW $120.53 $158.6 21.4x 19.2x n/a n/a 33.9x 21.9x 24.4x 20.8x
Northrop Grumman NOC EW $496.41 $71.7 19.0x 17.7x n/a n/a 32.0x 23.2x 20.9x 20.5x
Space
Planet Labs PL n/a $3.32 $0.9 n/a n/a n/a 46.2x 3.4x 2.9x
Rocket Lab RKLB EW $22.41 $10.1 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
Virgin Galactic SPCE UW $6.72 $0.2 n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a n/a
Source: FactSet and Wells Fargo Securities, LLC estimates. Consensus estimates for stocks outside our
coverage. Prices as of 11/21/2024.
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Exhibit 8 - IATA Traffic Recovery vs. Pre-COVID Trend
160
140
120
100
80
60
40
20
0
2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
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Defense
Exhibit 11 - Wells Fargo Defense Budget Forecast ($B)
1,200
1,000
800
600
400
200
0
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
2016
2017
2018
2019
2020
2021
2022
2023
2024
2025E
2026E
2027E
2028E
2029E
Source: DoD and Wells Fargo Securities, LLC estimates. Based on 051 DoD discretionary funding and includes
supplemental appropriations.
Exhibit 12 - L12M Defense Growth vs Modernization Outlays
12% 18%
Modernization Outlays
10% 15%
Defense Growth
8% 12%
6% 9%
4% 6%
2% 3%
0% 0%
-2% -3%
-4% -6%
Jul-20
Jul-21
Jul-22
Jul-23
Jul-24
Jan-20
Jan-21
Jan-22
Jan-23
Jan-24
Apr-20
Oct-20
Apr-21
Apr-22
Apr-23
Oct-23
Apr-24
Oct-24
Oct-19
Oct-21
Oct-22
Source: DoD, Company Reports and Wells Fargo Securities, LLC estimates
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-10%
5%
0%
-5%
15%
10%
-40%
-20%
0%
60%
20%
40%
-15%
-10%
5%
0%
-5%
15%
25%
10%
20%
Oct-18 Oct-18 Oct-18
Source: DoD
Source: DoD
Jan-19 Jan-19 Jan-19
Apr-19 Apr-19 Apr-19
Jul-19 Jul-19 Jul-19
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Apr-20 Apr-20 Apr-20
Civil
Apr-21 Apr-21 Apr-21
Growth - YOY
Growth - YOY
Jul-21 Jul-21 Jul-21
Oct-21 Oct-21 Oct-21
Defense O&M
Jul-22 Jul-22 Jul-22
Growth - L3M
Oct-22 Oct-22 Oct-22
Growth - L3M
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Oct-20
Oct-21
Oct-23
Oct-24
Jan-19
Apr-19
Oct-19
Jan-20
Apr-20
Jan-21
Jan-22
Apr-22
Oct-22
Jan-23
Apr-23
Jan-24
Jul-19
Jul-20
Apr-21
Jul-21
Jul-22
Jul-23
Apr-24
Jul-24
Growth - YOY Growth - L3M
Feb-23
May-23
Feb-24
May-21
May-22
May-24
Feb-22
Nov-21
Aug-22
Nov-22
Nov-23
Nov-24
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