STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

WEEK 7

26 OCT 16

----------- PREVIOUS WEEK -------------SERIES 3

--------- TEAM -----------------------******* POINTS ****** ***************
POSITION
NAME
#
POSITION PINFALL TEAM POSITION TOTAL POINTS PINFALL
1
NS/JB/RB
6
1
2496
13.0
3.0
16.0
82.5
12029
2

PN/AL/MS/DK

2497

8.5

4.0

12.5

78.5

11844

SR/SK/AR

2505

13.0

5.0

18.0

78.0

12099

SKINNERS

2422

7.0

2.0

9.0

63.0

11733

DS/TS/MR

2516

11.5

6.0

17.5

57.5

11872

NC/NH/HG

2413

7.0

1.0

8.0

38.5

11497

HIGH TEAM SINGLE... SR/SK/AR

910 (Wk# 4)

HIGH TEAM TRIPLE... SR/SK/AR

- 2645 (Wk# 5)

LANE MATCH-UPS
LEFT PUTS DOWN FIRST - - - RIGHT GETS TO CHOOSE MATCH-UP !!
(Note: Position Night Higher position on Right)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

WEEK 7

26 OCT 16

TEAM

SR/SK/AR

IN ALLEY

39

TEAM

PN/AL/MS/DK

IN ALLEY

36

TEAM

NC/NH/HG

IN ALLEY

35

TEAM

DS/TS/MR

IN ALLEY

37

TEAM

SKINNERS

IN ALLEY

38

TEAM

NS/JB/RB

IN ALLEY

40

"200 GAMES" & Awards

Paul Naster
Mike Minuk
Nitzan Sahar
Mike Minuk

-... WEEK 6

19 OCT 16

204
201
246

116, 201, 156

Senior: >50 @GAME

NAME
Andrew Lederman

AVERAGE
194.5

HANDICAP
20

GAMES POINTS PINFALL ABSENT/BOWLOFF

6
4.0
1167
( 3 0)

Stephen Kornbloom

191.4

23

5.0

1723

( 3

0)

Nitzan Sahar

184.6

28

18

12.0

3324

( 0

0)

Paul Naster

179.0

32

18

13.0

3222

( 0

0)

Sheldon Rotman

178.0

33

15

9.0

2670

( 1

0)

Dave Sheinberg

169.4

40

3.0

1525

( 2

0)

Tal Sahar

168.2

41

18

11.0

3029

( 0

0)

Adam Nelson

160.2

48

18

8.0

2885

( 0

0)

Nathan Choran

156.8

51

14

9.0

2196

( 1

0)

Jamie Belitz

153.1

53

12

8.0

1838

( 1

0)

Mike Minuk

150.7

56

15

11.0

2261

( 1

0)

Norm Harris

147.1

58

18

9.0

2648

( 0

0)

Alan Rubenstein

145.3

60

18

14.0

2617

( 0

0)

Monty Shelson

141.8

63

5.5

1135

( 1

0)

David Kapelus

141.8

63

12

14.0

1702

( 0

0)

Stan Shapiro

130.0

72

15

12.0

1950

( 0

0)

Malcolm Roll

128.5

73

18

9.0

2314

( 0

0)

Ryan Belitz

127.8

74

18

13.0

2301

( 0

0)

Howi Galin

121.7

79

18

6.0

2191

( 0

0)

154.1

19/10/2016

277

42698

Previous week's attendance report (week# 6):

MEMBERS... PRESENT
BOWLOFF
ABSENT
19
16
0
3

DUMMY's
5

STRIKE POT ($0):

$ 0
$ 0
$ 0
PINS OVER AVERAGE:
Paul Naster
Nitzan Sahar
Monty Shelson n/a
Norm Harris

$25
$15
$0
$10

HIGH TEAM TRIPLE: ($0 x 3 = $0)

TOTAL:

$50

$
$
$
$

(Week 6)

0
0
0
0

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

"LEAGUE LANE TRENDS"
1
2
3
4
5
6

7
14
21
28
5
19

DATE
SEP 16
SEP 16
SEP 16
SEP 16
OCT 16
OCT 16

LEAGUE AVERAGE
153.76
153.13
153.82
153.02
160.48
151.19

#200 GAMES
4
4
4
2
6
3
23

INDIVIDUAL LANE STATISTICS 2016/2017

===========================================
AVERAGE
GAMES

35 - 36...
37 - 38...
39 - 40...

155.67
153.56
152.79

92
91
96

PINS OVER AVERAGE - Week# 6

Paul Naster
Nitzan Sahar
Monty Shelson
Norm Harris
Tal Sahar
Mike Minuk
Ryan Belitz
Malcolm Roll
Sheldon Rotman
Stephen Kornbloom
Dave Sheinberg
Andrew Lederman
Alan Rubenstein
Nathan Choran
Stan Shapiro
Jamie Belitz
Adam Nelson
Howi Galin
David Kapelus

Game 1

Game 2

Game 3

Overall

28.00
64.00
9.00
43.00
-5.00
-33.00
-2.00
51.00
14.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
-14.00
-9.00
20.00
-1.00
-27.00
-33.00
-23.00

5.00
-2.00
27.00
-10.00
27.00
52.00
28.00
-13.00
7.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
-10.00
10.00
-34.00
-16.00
1.00
5.00
-32.00

19.00
-20.00
0.00
-1.00
6.00
7.00
-7.00
-22.00
-8.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
11.00
-22.00
-9.00
-23.00
-15.00
-21.00
-3.00

52.00
42.00
36.00
32.00
28.00
26.00
19.00
16.00
13.00
0.00
0.00
0.00
-13.00
-21.00
-23.00
-40.00
-41.00
-49.00
-58.00

HIGH TRIPLE:...
Stephen Kornbloom
Andrew Lederman
Nitzan Sahar
Paul Naster
Sheldon Rotman
Adam Nelson
Tal Sahar
Dave Sheinberg
Jamie Belitz
Alan Rubenstein
David Kapelus
Nathan Choran
Mike Minuk
Norm Harris
Stan Shapiro
Ryan Belitz
Malcolm Roll
Howi Galin
Monty Shelson
Louis Wulf

HIGH TRIPLE:...

"FLAT"

26/10/2016

619
612
600
580
568
567
557
525
512
506
489
489
473
470
463
453
417
401
328
266

"HANDICAP"

26/10/2016

HIGH SINGLE:...
Stephen Kornbloom
Nitzan Sahar
Tal Sahar
Paul Naster
Andrew Lederman
Adam Nelson
Sheldon Rotman
Dave Sheinberg
Mike Minuk
Nathan Choran
Norm Harris
Alan Rubenstein
Jamie Belitz
Stan Shapiro
Malcolm Roll
Monty Shelson
David Kapelus
Ryan Belitz
Howi Galin
Louis Wulf

YEAR
248
246
228
225
220
215
209
208
201
191
188
180
179
179
178
175
174
169
144
138

HIGH SINGLE:...

YEAR

HIGH TRIPLE:...

HIGH TRIPLE:...

"FLAT"

"HANDICAP"

xx/10/2016

xx/10/2016

HIGH SINGLE:... SERIES 1

HIGH SINGLE:... SERIES 1

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

WEEK 7
OCT 26 2016

TEAM

SR/SK/AR

IN ALLEY

39

TEAM

PN/AL/MS/DK

IN ALLEY

36

TEAM

NC/NH/HG

IN ALLEY

35

TEAM

DS/TS/MR

IN ALLEY

37

TEAM

AN/MM/SS

IN ALLEY

38

TEAM

NS/JB/RB

IN ALLEY

40

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LEFT PUTS LINE-UP DOWN FIRST !!

RIGHT GETS TO CHOOSE MATCH-UP !!

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 1
ALLEY 39

SR/SK/AR

DUMMY #1
Alan Rubenstein
Sheldon Rotman
Stephen Kornbloom
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 205 |
0 |
|
|
|
|
0 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 145 | 60 |
|
|
|
| 180 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 178 | 33 |
|
|
|
|
99 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 191 | 23 |
|
|
|
|
69 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TTL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|HAND |
|
116
|
116
|
116
|
348
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|TOTAL|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

LEFT PUTS LINE-UP DOWN FIRST !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 2
ALLEY 36

PN/AL/MS/DK

Monty Shelson
David Kapelus
Paul Naster
Andrew Lederman
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 162 | 46 |
|
|
|
| 138 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 141 | 63 |
|
|
|
| 189 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 179 | 32 |
|
|
|
|
96 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 195 | 20 |
|
|
|
|
60 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TTL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|HAND |
|
161
|
161
|
161
|
483
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|TOTAL|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

RIGHT GETS TO CHOOSE MATCH-UP !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 3
ALLEY 35

NC/NH/HG

DUMMY #2
Howi Galin
Norm Harris
Nathan Choran
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 205 |
0 |
|
|
|
|
0 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 121 | 79 |
|
|
|
| 237 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 147 | 58 |
|
|
|
| 174 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 156 | 51 |
|
|
|
| 153 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TTL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|HAND |
|
188
|
188
|
188
|
564
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|TOTAL|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

LEFT PUTS LINE-UP DOWN FIRST !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 4
ALLEY 37

DS/TS/MR

DUMMY #3
Malcolm Roll
Tal Sahar
Dave Sheinberg
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 205 |
0 |
|
|
|
|
0 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 128 | 73 |
|
|
|
| 219 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 168 | 41 |
|
|
|
| 123 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 169 | 40 |
|
|
|
| 120 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TTL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|HAND |
|
154
|
154
|
154
|
462
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|TOTAL|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

LEFT PUTS LINE-UP DOWN FIRST !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 5
ALLEY 38

SKINNERS

DUMMY #4
Stan Shapiro
Mike Minuk
Adam Nelson
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 205 |
0 |
|
|
|
|
0 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 130 | 72 |
|
|
|
| 216 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 150 | 56 |
|
|
|
| 168 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 160 | 48 |
|
|
|
| 144 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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|
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|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
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|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
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| TTL |
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|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
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|HAND |
|
176
|
176
|
176
|
528
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|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
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|TOTAL|
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|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

RIGHT GETS TO CHOOSE MATCH-UP !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)

STRIKES, SPARES & MISTERS

TEAM 6
ALLEY 40

NS/JB/RB

DUMMY #5
Ryan Belitz
Jamie Belitz
Nitzan Sahar
ABSENTEE

SCORE

ABSENTEE

SCORE

WEEK

26 OCT 16

SERIES# 1

POINTS WON: __________

AVG
HAND
GAME 1
GAME 2
GAME 3
TOTAL
HAND
TOTAL Win/Lose $PAID$
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
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|
|
|
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| 205 |
0 |
|
|
|
|
0 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 127 | 74 |
|
|
|
| 222 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| 153 | 53 |
|
|
|
| 159 |
|
|
|
|-----|------|---------|---------|---------|---------|-------|---------|-------|-------|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
|
|
| 184 | 28 |
|
|
|
|
84 |
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
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|
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|
|
|
|
|
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|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
| SUB |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| TTL |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|-----|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|_______|_______|
|TEAM |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|HAND |
|
155
|
155
|
155
|
465
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|TOTAL|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|_____|______|_________|_________|_________|_________|_______|_________|

RETURN THIS SHEET TO LANE

35

RIGHT GETS TO CHOOSE MATCH-UP !!

PLEASE RECORD ANY AWARDS:
ALL SPARE GAME
DUTCH 200
11-XXX
4-6-7-10 SPLIT
7-10 SPLIT
CLEAN !b!
GAMES: TRIPLICATE
{ 250 225 200 }(!a!)
298
299
300
100 PINS OVER AVERAGE
SERIES: { 600 500 400 } (!b!)
CLEAN SERIES
700
800
900
125 PINS OVER AVERAGE
( indicates that average must be !a! 180/160/140 or less, !b! 170, 150, 115 or less)