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Offline bpnkrtn

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CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« on: April 19, 2018, 03:03:50 PM »
I just got my slide back from Primary Machine, as usual excellent work and good turn around time.




The original sights co-witness very well.  I have a couple more pictures but am having a #*&# of a time getting the images sized correctly ... hopefully more to come.  Got tired of messing with Imagur.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 04:45:33 PM »
I just got my slide back from Primary Machine, as usual excellent work and good turn around time.

The original sights co-witness very well.  I have a couple more pictures but am having a #*&# of a time getting the images sized correctly ... hopefully more to come.  Got tired of messing with Imagur.

More pictures


That's a really nice carry optic setup for the CZ-75's. The Shield is small enough to fit in front of stock rear iron and mount nice and low without requiring extra thickness (and expense) of a plate. And the Shield stays on 24/7 yes? IMHO that's perfect for a carry gun.

Is the optic zeroed yet? The image of co-witness looks like the BUIS might need to be a bit taller?  Did you purchase the Shield directly from UK, or did you find a better (price) source?

I've been experimenting with the JPoint MRDS (also made by Shield) without milling on a Leupold CZ-75 dovetail mount. But your set up looks much more durable if for EDC.
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 05:08:45 PM »
That looks great. I haven't heard of a Shield RMS. Researching it now.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2018, 08:50:12 AM »
I just got my slide back from Primary Machine, as usual excellent work and good turn around time.

The original sights co-witness very well.  I have a couple more pictures but am having a #*&# of a time getting the images sized correctly ... hopefully more to come.  Got tired of messing with Imagur.

More pictures


That's a really nice carry optic setup for the CZ-75's. The Shield is small enough to fit in front of stock rear iron and mount nice and low without requiring extra thickness (and expense) of a plate. And the Shield stays on 24/7 yes? IMHO that's perfect for a carry gun.

Is the optic zeroed yet? The image of co-witness looks like the BUIS might need to be a bit taller?  Did you purchase the Shield directly from UK, or did you find a better (price) source?

I've been experimenting with the JPoint MRDS (also made by Shield) without milling on a Leupold CZ-75 dovetail mount. But your set up looks much more durable if for EDC.
They're lower 1/3. More of a "Uhhh, my dot crapped the bed. But at least I still have 100% functional irons."

The Shield RMS has a neat little notch cut on the top/rear of it so you do't need as tall of sights as you would think to achieve a lower 1/3 co witness.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2018, 09:51:44 AM »
That looks great. I haven't heard of a Shield RMS. Researching it now.
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2018, 10:11:52 AM »
Vinny ... you deserve a lot a lot of the blame(credit) for this expense  ;D  Your thread on mounting a JPoint on a Leupold mount is what got me headed in this direction.  The more I read on the Shield the more I wanted a metal RDS.  Based on my experience with a Leupold Deltapoint Pro on an M&P CORE I knew I wanted the optic "lower."  And yes the Shield is always on with battery life estimated for only 2+ years ...  I just got the slide yesterday so I haven't gotten to the range yet so I can't comment on zero.  Brownells has them for $400, but I ordered it from Lone Wolf for $350.  Shield is advertising an RMSc which has the same footprint/bolt pattern but is slightly narrower.  As my picture shows (I hope) the RMS is just a little wider than the P-01 slide.  I got the 8 MOA RMS to try the larger dot, if I decide I want to go back to a smaller dot I'll give the RMSc a try.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2018, 10:19:23 AM »
A little more information on the RMSc.  Scroll through the pictures and there is a side by side photo.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2018, 10:36:19 AM »
That looks great. I haven't heard of a Shield RMS. Researching it now.
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2018, 10:39:23 AM »
Vinny ... you deserve a lot a lot of the blame(credit) for this expense  ;D  Your thread on mounting a JPoint on a Leupold mount is what got me headed in this direction.  The more I read on the Shield the more I wanted a metal RDS.  Based on my experience with a Leupold Deltapoint Pro on an M&P CORE I knew I wanted the optic "lower."  And yes the Shield is always on with battery life estimated for only 2+ years ...  I just got the slide yesterday so I haven't gotten to the range yet so I can't comment on zero.  Brownells has them for $400, but I ordered it from Lone Wolf for $350.  Shield is advertising an RMSc which has the same footprint/bolt pattern but is slightly narrower.  As my picture shows (I hope) the RMS is just a little wider than the P-01 slide.  I got the 8 MOA RMS to try the larger dot, if I decide I want to go back to a smaller dot I'll give the RMSc a try.
Thanks bpnkrtn,
When I bought my first JPoint 18 months ago; no one had heard of the Shield RMS. The JPoint is actually Shield's earlier model MRDS. But the metal frame and lower profile of the RMS is an improvement.
If I had it to do over again; (which I might anyhow) I would go the Shield RMS route for my CZ 75's. I wasn't aware of the RMSc either; so thanks for that tip too.

Things change quickly in electronics; so thanks for posting this. I would think that your Shield setup is the best way to go now for milling a RDS for CZ-75's; unless for some reason you want to spend a whole lot more $$ just to have a RMR and another +$200 for the Trijicon mounting plate plus milling cost. Ouch!
« Last Edit: April 28, 2018, 01:29:57 PM by Vinny »
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2018, 01:15:24 PM »
looks great!
I have the shield "mini sight" on my M&P 9l, it sits very low so co -witness is easy if you want it.
it looks like it's about $100 less than the reflex, only downside is you need to remove it to change the battery.
I've had mine for almost a year and use it quite a bit...........just changed the first battery last weekend.
Auto off works great if you put the cover on it when not in use.
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #10 on: May 05, 2018, 08:02:23 PM »
Bpnkrtn,

Now... it's your fault! (in a good way - lol).
Based on your post, it really looks like the Shield RMS or RMSc is currently the best RDS setup for a CZ-75. Are you still pleased after having a chance to shoot it more?? Lower 1/3 BUIS co-witness OK??

I've been shooting my P-01 with the 'temporary' JPoint/Leupold mount setup and absolutely love the way it shoots quickly and accurately. But it required two 'wedgies' to have enough elevation adjustment, making it a bit clumsy. However, it has worked well enough to convince me to go ahead and have it milled.

I found a good deal on a 4moa Shield RMS at GT Distributors gtdist.com for $319 so I jumped in.
With my blurry near vision, the 4moa dot looks like a 6 or 8 moa anyhow.

Will post results in a month or so after milling.

Thanks,  Vinny
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2018, 09:59:31 AM »
Bpnkrtn,

Now... it's your fault! (in a good way - lol).
Based on your post, it really looks like the Shield RMS or RMSc is currently the best RDS setup for a CZ-75. Are you still pleased after having a chance to shoot it more?? Lower 1/3 BUIS co-witness OK??

I've been shooting my P-01 with the 'temporary' JPoint/Leupold mount setup and absolutely love the way it shoots quickly and accurately. But it required two 'wedgies' to have enough elevation adjustment, making it a bit clumsy. However, it has worked well enough to convince me to go ahead and have it milled.

I found a good deal on a 4moa Shield RMS at GT Distributors gtdist.com for $319 so I jumped in.
With my blurry near vision, the 4moa dot looks like a 6 or 8 moa anyhow.

Will post results in a month or so after milling.

Thanks,  Vinny

Vinny ... sorry for the delay in responding.  I'm very happy with the P-01/ Shield RMS setup.  The lower one-third co-witness works well but I have to admit that I'm basically oblivious to the irons anymore ... which is a good thing I think.

I've gone all in on red dots ... they are just much easier to shoot with my "old eyes."  I ordered a Shield 4 MOA RMSc for my PCR and am considering having it milled into the rear dove tail or perhaps better said ... have the rear dove tail milled out for the RMSc mounting area.  And just use the RMSc "notch" for the rear iron sight.  I believe the notch  in the RMSc would supply all the back-up sight I need, or would use.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2018, 10:09:59 AM »
I also took the RMS off my P-01 and mounted the RMSc on it.  Primary  Machine was right when they said that they mill an exact cut for the RDS you supply!  The RMS was very tight coming out of the milled slot and the RMSc was equally tight getting mounted!  I unfortunately didn't get a picture but the compact RMS was just about a perfect match to the P-01 slide width ... slightly more aesthetically pleasing than the regular RMS ... FWIW.

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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2018, 10:57:11 AM »
I also took the RMS off my P-01 and mounted the RMSc on it.  Primary  Machine was right when they said that they mill an exact cut for the RDS you supply!  The RMS was very tight coming out of the milled slot and the RMSc was equally tight getting mounted!  I unfortunately didn't get a picture but the compact RMS was just about a perfect match to the P-01 slide width ... slightly more aesthetically pleasing than the regular RMS ... FWIW.
Thanks for your update!
I was pondering whether to go RMS or RMSc on my P-01. Ordered the RMS because of the easier access battery door; but I could put it on my RAMI BD which has a wider slide top surface; and order an RMSc for the P-01.Does the RMSc sit any lower and co-witness any better with the stock sights?  If you have a chance; an image of the RMSc on P-01 would be helpful. Thanks Again - Vinny
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Re: CZ P-01 with Shield RMS mounted
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2018, 11:12:48 AM »
It appears to me (remember we have been discussing old eyes  :-\) the compact version is the same length and height and thickness as the RMS.  The only difference I see is the width.  If my observations are correct then the co-witness would be the same... and it did appear to be the same when I had it mounted.