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Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! Harej (talk) 15:17, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

IP 46.64.178.3

Just an FYI to let people know that 46.64.178.3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) has been engaging in some weird editing that is reminiscent of the blocked IP 94.193.131.253. Some of you may recall how much trouble the latter caused with their subtle vandalism of hundreds of ship articles. This one seems to be doing the same sort of ting on the same articles. Extra eyes would be appreciated. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:08, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

I've restored all affected articles to their last good state. Any further disruption should be reported to WP:AIV. Mjroots (talk) 20:44, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

I opened an SPI investigation earlier today. But SPI is severely backlogged, so who knows how long that will take. -Ad Orientem (talk) 22:00, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

SS Monroe (1902)

A discussion re the use of Gross Tonnage or Gross Register Tonnage is taking place at talk:SS Monroe (1902). Mjroots (talk) 17:24, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Category:Surviving ships

Well, this is a new category created from some work to Template:Surviving ocean going ships, which uses the template to add the category to ship articles. WP:TEMPLATECAT has reasons why this shouldn't be done for mainspace articles, but I have some longstanding-ish concerns over the whole template and category structure anyway. Surviving ocean-going ships seems way too widely defined for a template. This is all ships built since the 1960s essentially that still exist. There are many many many of them, already it would seem too many for a template, and still more that don't have articles. For example, the British National Historic Ships has over 5,000 ships and vessels, virtually all of them over 50 years old, on its registers. The inclusion criteria is not well defined as it is. The name of the category is also extremely vague, and a rename of some sorts would be in order, though I'm not sure we want to group every ship over 50 years old in a single category anyway, let alone a template. I'd thought I'd bring this here for further discussion first, before starting to formalise things with WP:CFD or WP:TFD. Benea (talk) 21:18, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

That category should be deleted, as should fields for "status" in lists or infoboxes for ships. There simply is no way that they can be kept current, particularly with so many ship editors no longer active. We need to concentrate on encyclopedia articles, and not be a blog which would have to be updated on a daily basis to be comprehensive and accurate. Kablammo (talk) 15:18, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Editor retention on here is a joke and a half. Brad (talk) 16:32, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Duplicate article

Devastation Turret Class Ship has just appeared courtesy of WP:AFC. The topic is already covered at Devastation-class ironclad, but perhaps some information could be merged in? Benea (talk) 16:05, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

The suggestion on Talk:Devastation-class ironclad#Merger proposal is that Devastation Turret Class Ship might be a better title for the merged article. Comments welcome. Benea (talk) 22:57, 16 October 2014 (UTC)