Wikipedia talk:Subjective importance

Good essay in theory but honestly, most of these are not followed in practice.

I think the essay confuses Notability with Verifiability issues. Something being the #1 brand in a certain market DOES make it inherently notable. But being notable is not enough on its own, it needs to have multiple reliable sources.

Multiple reliable sources do not make something notable any more than something being notable magically creates sources.

For that reason I suggest removing some of these. HominidMachinae (talk) 21:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

"worthy"

This kind of language is what makes people want to not follow the guidelines. It's the difference between "Here are the rules" and "Here are the rules. By the way fuck you and your small town, redneck." DuckduckMOO (talk) 13:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, this is an essay, not an official guideline, so as it says at the top of the page it does not necessarily have widespread consensus. But anyway, I agree with you and have taken the word out. We do not use the criterion worthiness in the guidelines any more than we use the criterion importance. The statement is therefore an error of fact about the guidelines, and can't be kept in even as an opinion about the guidelines. SpinningSpark 17:33, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

Known

Hey, I was wondering if we could add something to WP:POPULARITY about being known. You see this a lot at AfD, especially with companies that are known within their specific area but for whatever reason fail notability guidelines. It sort of falls under the same area as popularity for the most part. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 08:19, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Notability and verifiability

But the main point of the notability guideline is not to limit Wikipedia to articles on an elite group of subjects, but to make sure that information that is submitted is accurate and can be written about from a neutral point of view without Wikipedia being the original source of the information. Incorrect. Making sure the information is accurate is the domain of the verifiability policy. Notability is part of the criteria for inclusion guidelines, and absolutely does intend to place limits on subjects to be included. SpinningSpark 16:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

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