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DealsR4theDevil · 11-07-2007, 01:12 PM

A month or 2 ago somone posted a link to a site that had side by side comparrison pics of 300 upconverted DVD and Blu-ray/HD DVD. I wanted to show my friend those pics but I cant seem to find them through google and this site wont let me search "300" because it is to short a word. Does anyone have that link?

BStecke · 11-07-2007, 05:28 PM

Here you go, broseph.

B-movies · 11-07-2007, 06:35 PM

they have another comparision of Spidey 3 dvd/blu

glenn22 · 11-07-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by B-movies

they have another comparision of Spidey 3 dvd/blu

link?

Living Near Shamu · 11-07-2007, 07:07 PM

The blu-ray pictures look even clearer than the hd dud ones, hehe

bdrex28 · 11-07-2007, 07:10 PM

I wish they had a hd dvd/blu comparison on the same shot.

glenn22 · 11-07-2007, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bdrex28

I wish they had a hd dvd/blu comparison on the same shot.

They SHOULD be indentical. Warner stated that they used the identical encoding on each format.

Tru-way · 11-07-2007, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by glenn22

link?

http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=761

The website is awesome! nice material for convincing people about HD.

glenn22 · 11-07-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru-way

http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=761

The website is awesome! nice material for convincing people about HD.

Thanks.

DealsR4theDevil · 11-07-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tru-way

http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=761

The website is awesome! nice material for convincing people about HD.

does this show DVD vs. Blu, or upconverted DVD vs. Blu?

cathexist · 11-07-2007, 08:17 PM

Casino Royal DVD to Blu-ray Comparison
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=710

Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl DVD to Blu-ray Comparison
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=728

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest DVD to Blu-ray Comparison
http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=736

^I remember the intro animation for Casino Royal being the first thing I saw in High-Def and freaking out...looks so amazing

DealsR4theDevil · 11-07-2007, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

does this show DVD vs. Blu, or upconverted DVD vs. Blu?

?

cathexist · 11-07-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DealsR4theDevil

does this show DVD vs. Blu, or upconverted DVD vs. Blu?

I can't read Spanish...so I don't know what their testing system is like.

I would imagine that they use the same player, just different media though. So it would be an upscaled DVD.

jkcheng122 · 11-07-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Living Near Shamu

The blu-ray pictures look even clearer than the hd dud ones, hehe

they have the exact same encode, bd gets an extra pcm track in place of hd dvd's hd extras.

if you actually see a difference it's due to the players, and possibly the extra processing done to get 1080p on the low-end hd dvd player. bd would output 1080p on a 1080p display whereas hd dvd would be a 1080i output de-interlaced by the tv to be 1080p.

Drayton · 11-10-2007, 04:23 PM

I just purchased and watched the bluray version of 300 last night. Some friends and I compared the dvd version to the blu within minutes. The screenshots do not do 300 justice. It's an intentionally gritty/grainy film. The dvd's compression results in terrible macroblocking, it can't really handle the detail of the grain. In fact, this blocking and smudgy artifacting is present to the point of being distracting.

bootman · 11-10-2007, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jkcheng122

they have the exact same encode, bd gets an extra pcm track in place of hd dvd's hd extras.

if you actually see a difference it's due to the players, and possibly the extra processing done to get 1080p on the low-end hd dvd player. bd would output 1080p on a 1080p display whereas hd dvd would be a 1080i output de-interlaced by the tv to be 1080p.

It could be even worse.
If the movie is encoded at 1080p 24 on the low end Toshiba, it get converted to 1080i 60 then your set has to do the 1080i 60 to 1080p 60.
A real side by side test would be outputting both at 1080p 24.
Then I believe the pics would be identical because the encoding is the same.
HD-DVD itself isn't as bad as some make it seem, it's the Toshiba players that suck.

theirishgonzo · 11-10-2007, 05:28 PM

that is true why do you think they are selling so cheap they make them cheap. so i would spend more for sothing that dont suck

Frode · 11-10-2007, 06:02 PM

The DVD isn't upconverted - instead the HD is downconverted to DVD resolution on that site.

Micker · 11-10-2007, 10:12 PM

The dvd screen shots seem to have the birghtness/contrast way off.

11-07-2007, 01:12 PM	#1
DealsR4theDevil Power Member Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:76	300 DVD compared to Blu-ray A month or 2 ago somone posted a link to a site that had side by side comparrison pics of 300 upconverted DVD and Blu-ray/HD DVD. I wanted to show my friend those pics but I cant seem to find them through google and this site wont let me search "300" because it is to short a word. Does anyone have that link?

11-07-2007, 08:17 PM	#11
cathexist Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Aurora, CO 4K collection:334 Blu-ray collection:1285 DVD collection:73 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:8	Casino Royal DVD to Blu-ray Comparison http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=710 Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl DVD to Blu-ray Comparison http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=728 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest DVD to Blu-ray Comparison http://www.zonadvd.com/modules.php?n...icle&artid=736 ^I remember the intro animation for Casino Royal being the first thing I saw in High-Def and freaking out...looks so amazing Last edited by cathexist; 11-07-2007 at 08:18 PM. Reason: comment

11-10-2007, 10:12 PM	#19
Micker Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	dvd The dvd screen shots seem to have the birghtness/contrast way off.

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11-07-2007, 05:28 PM	#2
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	Here you go, broseph.

11-07-2007, 06:35 PM	#3
B-movies Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	they have another comparision of Spidey 3 dvd/blu

11-07-2007, 07:07 PM	#5
Living Near Shamu Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Austin, TX Trading Score:42	The blu-ray pictures look even clearer than the hd dud ones, hehe

11-07-2007, 07:10 PM	#6
bdrex28 Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Edmond, OK Blu-ray reviews:4	I wish they had a hd dvd/blu comparison on the same shot.

11-10-2007, 04:23 PM	#15
Drayton Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:19	I just purchased and watched the bluray version of 300 last night. Some friends and I compared the dvd version to the blu within minutes. The screenshots do not do 300 justice. It's an intentionally gritty/grainy film. The dvd's compression results in terrible macroblocking, it can't really handle the detail of the grain. In fact, this blocking and smudgy artifacting is present to the point of being distracting.

11-10-2007, 05:28 PM	#17
theirishgonzo Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	that is true why do you think they are selling so cheap they make them cheap. so i would spend more for sothing that dont suck

11-10-2007, 06:02 PM	#18
Frode Special Member Member since:Feb 2007	The DVD isn't upconverted - instead the HD is downconverted to DVD resolution on that site.

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