Emperor Tomato Ketchup

I have seen both versions of this film and I would have to say that the primary feeling I get afterwards is ambivalence. Now maybe the director was trying to say something and then again maybe he wasn't; ambiguity is often a sign of an artist trying to force the viewer to think, but it is even more often a sign of a lazy and pretentious CON-artist with nothing particularly cohesive to say and no particular idea on how to say it.

Not all that is Ambiguous is art; in just the same way that not everything that is yellow is cheese.

And then there's the whole child porn / not child porn argument, now whether you get turned on or not by watching badly acted scenes of children having sex with adults remains to be seen, and it doesn't alter the fact that there's a hell of a lot of people out there who do.

Now whether the director is trying to say something with full frontal child nudity and sex is up to others to argue about at length rather than me, but nothing makes a cult movie better that questionable content and there is nothing to say that the director wasn't simply being shocking to gain attention.

But I would also point out that we've only got the directors word for it that child porn wasn't his intent.

And for me that is just another reason to be turned off by this movie.

First there are two versions of this film, one which was shown in 1970 and is 76 minutes long in sepia, and another which was produced in Germany for European audiences in 1971 and was 28 minutes long in black and white. If possible it is better to see the 76 minute version, the 28 minute is a chopped up "just the highlights" version that is not very true to terayama's original intentions. Unfortunately the 28 minute version is much more widely available outside Japan, and is what most people have seen.

Second: The film is not pornographic in the least bit. Terayama was not interested in pornography, which he saw as a tool of state oppression, but in creating a vision of erotic utopia. So it has naked children raping adults, BIG deal. The film was made in answer to Nazi Holocaust camps, the atomic bomb, the rape of Nanking, the Vietnam war etc. Terayama had lived through the firebombs that destroyed his town, leaving charred bodies of women and children littered about him when he was but 9 years old. A few naked children, especially in 1970, is no big deal, so grow up. If you can't handle it, then I guess yes, keep your eyes closed to the worlds horror and don't watch the film.

Third: It is not a feel good film, and is primarily about revolution and failed utopian dreams. It is a rejection of any meta-narrative progression, by which I mean there is no promise implied or given. No promise of good, or god or justice, as terayama sought to express a "vanished thought" Not that the film couldn't be better, but it got my back up to see the other review where they dismiss it so easily and without thought.

cheers

And I quote... "Do film makers know movies are made for entertainment? And I don't mean comedy, I mean entertainment!"

That is THE most ignorant, most INSULTING comment one could ever write about the possibilities of the "septieme art"! I'm baffled! Literally BAFFLED by your post! *sigh*

I personally haven't seen this film and it could very well be garbage, but it won't be because it's not "entertaining". What is it with people and "entertainment"? The very word has taken on a negative connotation in my book because of all you people who have become accustomed to "fast food films". As if it were a requirement for good cinema. PLEASE!

I recently saw the short b&w version of the movie, the accusation of child pornography is irrelevant. It is obvious it's not Terayama's intention: the nude scenes aren't so much erotic than somehow grotesque and touching. The children appear helpless and clumsy with their power. I saw something of a fable about this vanity: the children unable to understand why they should even HAVE the power, yet wanting it... I didn't know there was a long version of the movie so i imagined Terayama chose an elliptic, poetic, surrealist way of expressing things. He uses images for the power that is inherent to their nature, and not as mere substitute to words. Now i would like to see it in its full length to be sure about all this. Nevertheless, another of his movies, the 1977 20 min. long "Film de l'ombre" ("Movie of the shadow" (?)) definitely demonstrates that his cinematographic language may well be non-direct and poetic. I definitely recommend it to those who like poetry in the cinema (somewhat difficult to stumble upon though). Cheers, Boyan

I found this at the West Coast Video in Pittsburg in the middle of a shelf marked "Five Seconds To Live." The synopsis on the back seemed interesting and the guy behind the counter highly recommended it. If I ever see him again, I will shoot him in the throat for saying that.

SUMMARY: This cult B&W Japanese film from the 1970s analyzes the result of a colony in which children overthrow the control of their parents and attempt to form a new society. Their plan spirals out of control and they are soon lost in a web of sexual deviation and violence.

At least that's what I'd like to think it was about.

OKAY NOW, forget what you've seen on Mystery Science Theater 3000; this is quite simply the worst movie I have ever seen. If you have ever wondered what it would look like if you took a bunch of random video clips of absolutely ANYTHING, put them together in an editing program, and pressed a button called "Create Movie," you would get something along the lines of Emperor Tomato Ketchup.

I do not mean to say that this movie is not interesting, by all means it absolutely is. I mean, if you consider the dancing old woman in the field who has about 20 minutes of uninterrupted screen time from a single camera shot, the naked children stuffed into closets, a midget decapitating a chicken, two men playing Rock-Paper-Scissors and physically injuring the loser in various ways over the course of another 20 minutes, and the disgusting abundance of child pornography, it is quite possibly the most interesting video I've seen in a while. But bear in mind that "interesting" and "good" are not synonymous. On many levels, the directors, actors, and all involved, regardless of whatever socio-political significance this movie attempted to create, should be physically abused for making this movie.

If you have the patience, enjoy it in whatever way "enjoy" applies to anything involved in the viewing of this bizarre film, though I recommend making use of your DVDs scan rate to watch this in AT LEAST 8x speed for maximum enjoyment. If not, then you're probably better off that way.

Note: For the record, there are two versions: only black-and-white which is under 30 minutes, another just under 60 in poor-quality sepia tone. They are both equally bad, though it's best to watch them back-to-back starting with the B&W one.

Interesting quirk though: my friend's West Coast Video account got revoked shortly afterward for returning this and another video late, in addition to renting this movie which was marked "Over 21 only" on the cover, despite how one of the clerks recommended it. Unfortunately, the "Who cares if you're 21? Child pornography's illegal for everyone!" argument didn't work.