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Seventeen

  • 1983
  • Not Rated
  • 2h
IMDb RATING
7.6/10
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Seventeen (1983)
Documentary

High school seniors in Muncie rush toward adulthood, experiencing mixed emotions while gaining life lessons both inside and outside class - often different from the curriculum intended.High school seniors in Muncie rush toward adulthood, experiencing mixed emotions while gaining life lessons both inside and outside class - often different from the curriculum intended.High school seniors in Muncie rush toward adulthood, experiencing mixed emotions while gaining life lessons both inside and outside class - often different from the curriculum intended.

  • Directors
    • Joel DeMott
    • Jeff Kreines
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  • IMDb RATING
    7.6/10
    237
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    • Directors
      • Joel DeMott
      • Jeff Kreines
    • 7User reviews
    • 6Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 2 wins & 1 nomination total

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    10fecund-2

    Dense slice of life

    This documentary follows a high schooler in Muncie, Indiana. The situations and conversations are amazing, the subjects had either total trust or complete ignorance of the documenters. Teen pregnancy, racism & cross burning, automobile fatality, drugs, heavy drinking & all night parties all touch the life of our protagonist & her circle.

    Originally produced for PBS for part of their "Middletown" series on Muncie, but was not included.
    10trek444

    Reality TV before there was "reality tv"

    This is a great film but is it any different than what we see on TLC? Not really, but it's still worth a watch if you can find it on YT or DVD. Today Lynn Massie(the main character) would get her own reality tv show complete with spinoffs. She is an intelligent young woman but seems a bit "unguided" so to speak. My favorite parts of the film are the scenes in the home economics classroom. The teacher, Jane Hartling, seems to be doing her best to control these "crazy kids" while they curse at her, throw pie crusts on the floor and tell the camera that she better "watch out". You get the feeling Ms. Hartling feels like someone dropped her in the middle of a bullfight but that she has decided to "just stick it out until she can retire". In one scene she tells Lynn how capable she is when Lynn wants to drop the class to get out of doing an oral report so does seem to care about these young people. The rest of the film is very good, especially if you grew up in the 1980's, lot's a good music from that period and the party at the end of the film is one of the most disturbing scenes I've ever seen in a documentary. I'm not sure where Lynn is today but I have a feeling her current life would make a damned good reality show, she is a joy to watch.
    10djtet

    Essential Documentary

    Check the demographic breakdown for the user ratings. Fascinating. Apparently young men think this is awful while middle-aged guys (yeah, that's me) think it's great.

    What this is, is simply the most intimate documentary ever made, and it's subjects are 'regular people', specifically lower-middle-class teens in Muncie, Indiana. I guess some reviewers feel such folks aren't worth making a film about, and would rather watch movies about wizards and elfin princesses. For those who find reality interesting, 'Seventeen' is 'direct cinema' (aka cinema verite) taken as far as the form can go. It was shot with a fixed focal length wide-angle lens, which means that the camera is basically within 4-8 feet of the subjects most of the time. This yields amazing revelatory moments, and perhaps a sense of queasiness on exactly the same grounds, the subjects are pretty exposed. This caused a fair amount of controversy. The film had been commissioned for a PBS series, and PBS (cowards) dropped it. The film has continued to be largely repressed, and is seldom screened. If you get a chance to see it, DO NOT PASS IT UP. You will never see anything else quite like it, and whether you 'like' it or not it's a unique and thought provoking experience.
    10bobkanter

    Great film, horrible DVD

    I recently saw this film at BAM, with one of the filmmakers present. It was beautiful looking -- in contrast to the horrible DVD that is now being offered (with no connection to the filmmakers, apparently) that looks like it was transferred to video at K-Mart.

    Wait for the real version -- don't be fooled by the DVD from Icarus. If the film doesn't start with the title Seventeen, hand-written, it is NOT the filmmaker's version -- it's a censored and ugly attempt at making a few bucks.

    In the meantime, read the filmmakers' NOTES ON SEVENTEEN, which you can find on the film's Wikipedia page -- learn how the film was really made, and how it was suppressed.

    It is a brilliant film, and worthy of being seen as intended -- so don't buy the DVD!
    10lcrews

    Incredible documentary

    I can't do much but repeat what the other two reviews have said. This is an amazing, thought-provoking piece of cinema verite. From the team who brought us the incredible "Demon Lover Diaries" comes this biting insight into the life of teens in middle America.

    I first saw this my freshman year in college. I loved its naturalistic style, and it reminded me of my own growing up in Midwestern USA.

    I saw it again in another class a couple of years later, and with a little bit of perspective, I enjoyed it even more for the filmmakers' incredible ability to capture their subjects without any influence or changing the subjects' actions.

    As others have mentioned, it was commissioned by PBS as a part of a series on Muncie, Indiana, which had been named the "population center" of the United States at the time, and therefore truly "Middle America." Other documentary filmmakers made pieces for this series that were more conventional looks at the town and its history. One thing that I do think other reviewers have wrong is saying that PBS did not air this. At both screenings I attended, it was stated that it did air on PBS once, but was pulled from further re-broadcasts of the "Middle America"/"Muncie" series.

    Any bootlegs you can find (and they are rare, even by bootleg standards) come from this initial PBS broadcast, more than likely. I consider myself extremely lucky to have seen this on the big screen (at USC) not once, but twice, and it has left an indelible mark on my memory. If you get ANY chance to see it, buy it, borrow it, etc., do not miss the opportunity.

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      • February 1985 (United States)
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