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Dreamchild

  • 1985
  • PG
  • 1h 34m
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6.6/10
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Ian Holm and Amelia Shankley in Dreamchild (1985)
Ian Holm is children's author Lewis Carroll in this poignant fantasy-drama set in 1930s New York and populated by the fabulous special effects creatures of Muppet master Jim Henson. In HD.
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Ian Holm is children's author Lewis Carroll in this poignant fantasy-drama set in 1930s New York and populated by the fabulous special effects creatures of Muppet master Jim Henson.Ian Holm is children's author Lewis Carroll in this poignant fantasy-drama set in 1930s New York and populated by the fabulous special effects creatures of Muppet master Jim Henson.Ian Holm is children's author Lewis Carroll in this poignant fantasy-drama set in 1930s New York and populated by the fabulous special effects creatures of Muppet master Jim Henson.

  • Director
    • Gavin Millar
  • Writer
    • Dennis Potter
  • Stars
    • Coral Browne
    • Ian Holm
    • Peter Gallagher
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  • IMDb RATING
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    • Director
      • Gavin Millar
    • Writer
      • Dennis Potter
    • Stars
      • Coral Browne
      • Ian Holm
      • Peter Gallagher
    • 42User reviews
    • 25Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Nominated for 2 BAFTA Awards
      • 7 wins & 6 nominations total

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    Coral Browne
    Coral Browne
    • Alice Hargreaves
    Ian Holm
    Ian Holm
    • Reverend Charles L. Dodgson…
    Peter Gallagher
    Peter Gallagher
    • Jack Dolan
    Caris Corfman
    • Sally Mackeson
    Nicola Cowper
    Nicola Cowper
    • Lucy
    Jane Asher
    Jane Asher
    • Mrs. Liddell
    Amelia Shankley
    • Little Alice
    Imogen Boorman
    Imogen Boorman
    • Lorina
    Emma King
    • Edith
    Rupert Wainwright
    Rupert Wainwright
    • Hargreaves
    Roger Ashton-Griffiths
    Roger Ashton-Griffiths
    • Mr. Duckworth
    James Wilby
    James Wilby
    • Baker
    Shane Rimmer
    Shane Rimmer
    • Mr. Marl
    Peter Whitman
    • Radio Producer
    Ken Campbell
    • Radio Sound Effects Man
    • (voice)
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    William Hootkins
    William Hootkins
    • First Radio Actor
    Jeffrey Chiswick
    • Second Radio Actor
    Pat Starr
    Pat Starr
    • Radio Actress
    • Director
      • Gavin Millar
    • Writer
      • Dennis Potter
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    9j_eyon

    The Viewer in Wonderland

    Very moody and stylish movie - whose plot switches between three venues - the 1860s when Lewis Carroll introduced the Wonderland tales to young Alice and her sisters - the 1930s when the aged Alice visited the U.S. months before her death - and the surreal world of the Alice in Wonderland stories with story characters portrayed by wickedly designed Jim Henson puppets

    Four actresses stand out in my memory - Coral Browne as the starchy old Alice - Amelia Shankley as the young selfcentered Alice - Nicola Cowper as old Alices companion and love interest to the young American reporter played by Peter Gallagher - and - in a small role - Caris Corfman as a wistful newspaper reporter - in addition to many fine British and American actors

    My only gripe is Ian Holm's age - Holm was in his early 50s when he portrayed Lewis Carroll - who was closer to 30 when he first told the stories - there were concerns in his time about the purity of his interest in his child friends and photography subjects - such as Alice - Ian Holm brings that frightfully to life

    This film took great care in evoking the respective time periods - using beautiful set designs and photography - as a result - the movie is itself an exotic journey into other times and places - with Alice still as protagonist
    timpuckett

    An Obsessive Love and Dark Memories

    "Dreamchild" is a dark yet beautiful tale of an elderly woman haunted by the famous author who adored her as a child. It deals with love and fear, memories and the past, and the final recociliation of the two. Each character is succinctly and sympathetically drawn, from Lucy the young and naieve maid of the elderly Victorian Mrs. Alice Hargreaves (nee Liddell), who, on her first visit to America, cannot understand the intense attention given to her because of her connection to Lewis Carroll/Rev. Dodgson. The movie seamlessly shifts from the present (New York during the Despression) to the past (Victorian England at Oxford University). Real fans of Alice in Wonderland may object to this depiction of Wonderland characters in a harsher, angrier light; such as when the 80 year old Mrs. Hargreaves meets the Mad Hatter. The Reverend Dodgson does not stand accused as Michael Jackson or like some members of the clergy today, but Mrs. Hargreaves does ask "My mother destroyed all his letters. Why would she do that?" But the younger Alice, when asked by her mother, "Why on earth would he say that to you?" answers straighforwardly, "Because he loves me, of course." A thought provoking film worth seeing if you can find it.
    8Cineanalyst

    Mrs. Hargreaves in Wonderland

    I don't put much stock in the central conceit shared in "Dreamchild" that Charles Dodgson was a pedophile in love with Alice Liddell, the real-life inspiration for his Alice books. Regardless, this theory serves the film well--better than it did in Dennis Potter's prior TV "Alice" (1965). It's one of the more disturbing adaptations or reworkings of the famous children's books, and that includes the grotesque puppetry from Jim Henson's Creature Shop, which otherwise is best known for kiddie fare such as The Muppets franchise. "Dreamchild" is also one of the more interesting cinematic translations to incorporate the historical background into the telling of parts from the books. Others have tended to limit this to a framing narrative, as in the 1949 and 1972 versions. The "reality" and fantasy in "Dreamchild," however, are comparatively well integrated.

    The main narrative has Alice Liddell, now the nearly-80-years-old and widowed Mrs. Hargreaves, traveling to New York to receive an honorary degree to mark the centenary of Lewis Carroll's birth. While in the states, she's hounded by the press (the gaggle of fast-talking, cynical Depression-era reporters being an imitation straight out of "The Front Page") and forced to recall her childhood encounters with Mr. Dodgson and selections from the book he wrote for her. Underlying the dreams from book is a competent interpretation of "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland." Beyond the amusing nonsense, the fictional Alice's physical transformations--alternately growing bigger and smaller--is translated as an allegory for aging, with the movie's Alice changing between her as a child and as an old woman in her interactions with Wonderland's inhabitants. These characters remain partially nasty or threatening to Alice, as per the literary source, which likewise is read as representing one's (originally, a child's) struggle to make sense of the adult world, or, in this case, also the Depression-era modernity of the New World and Alice's reckoning with her past relationship with the author.

    All of this is reflected in two plotlines involving older men and their advances towards younger females. In the modern timeline, one of the reporters begins a romantic relationship with Alice's travel companion, Lucy, and, in the past, there's Dodgson's questionable intentions towards young Alice. "Dreamchild" largely reduces the author of the greatest books in the history of children's literature to a stuttering girl lover who seems to repress his sexual desires with photography and telling her stories, disregarding much of his other influences and importance of his work, but it's a more sophisticated interpretation of the Alice books than most other movies I've sought out since reading Carroll's stories, and it's certainly one of the more unsettling and mature reimaginings.
    stephen-63

    Must see test piece for Henson before Labyrinth

    Made entirely in England and yet not available in England, this film seems to lead us into dark corners only for the sun to shine brightly at the end, beautifully and carefully paced and with many very talented actors, especially the young Alice. This film predates Labyrinth by only a few months, and we can see in the Mad Hatter an early and successful test piece for Labyrinths Hoddle - even better though we can see the real life actor inspiring Hoddles face, as played by Ken Campbell. A must see companion piece to Labyrinth. Trek fans can note that Cheryl (Gates) McFadden (TNG Dr Crusher) also choreographed puppet movement for this movie.
    10drkjedi1-2

    An amazing fictional depiction of Dodgeson & Alice

    This is a stunning film, there have been all kinds of rumors and stories about the Rev. Charles Dodgeson and just who he was. This film lovingly and sadly portrays a what-if tale about Alice Liddell, the real Alice, of his famous books and what Victorian society did to her memories of this delightful man. I am not a member of the camp that thinks Dodgeson had a unnatural love for little children I find it preposterous and slanderous to say the least. This movie portrays him brilliantly and Ian Holm is such a superb actor you really feel sad for the lonely man with no wife and children of his own who writes these wonderful tales only to be suspected of unacceptable feelings for the little girl. This movie gives us all that with some wonderfully creepy Wonderland sequences by Hensen's creature shop. Simply marvelous!

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    • Trivia
      Because its American theatrical release was limited, and she was extremely proud of this movie, Coral Browne went on a self-funded promotional tour.
    • Goofs
      During the tea dance Jack and Lucy waltz to "I Only Have Eyes For You." The scene is set in 1932, but the song was not written until 1934.
    • Quotes

      Alice Hargreaves: That's quite intolerable. It would be difficult enough at my age to be what I once was, but utterly impossible to be what I never was.

    • Connections
      Featured in At the Movies: The Trip to Beautiful/Ran/Clue/Dreamchild (1985)
    • Soundtracks
      All of Me
      (uncredited)

      Music by Gerald Marks

      Lyrics by Seymour Simons

      Performed by a vocalist with the ship's band

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    • Release date
      • October 4, 1985 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United Kingdom
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Das wahre Leben der Alice im Wunderland
    • Filming locations
      • Liverpool, Merseyside, England, UK
    • Production companies
      • PfH Ltd.
      • Thorn EMI
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    • Budget
      • £4,000,000 (estimated)
    • Gross US & Canada
      • $1,215,923
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $5,425
      • Oct 6, 1985
    • Gross worldwide
      • $1,215,923
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 34m(94 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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