Raw Deal

Big Arnold stars in this action-packed movie as a former FBYI agent who goes back in action , being recruited by his previous chief (Darren McGavin) as an act of vengeance, to infitrate the Chicago mafia led by a nasty villain (Sam Wanamaker) and his henchman (Paul Shenar) . The government gave him a raw deal . Nobody gives him a raw deal. Nobody gives him a Raw Deal . His trigger has all the answers. The system gave him a raw dea l. Nobody gives him a raw deal.

Thiis is a predictable , run-of-the-mill thriller , even formulaic , but the usual formula works , at times . Arnie as an ex raw deal infitrated agent is nice and , of course , he shoots lots of people , as our hero will eventually take a machine-gun and mow down the entire syndicate of bad guys just like Charles Bronson and Chuck Norris . Violence , profanity , sex , grisly killings and bloodshed ensue here and there , that's why it's rated R . Main and support cast are pretty well , as Arnold Schwarzenegger is well accompanied by a good cast , such as :Darren McGavin , Kathryn Harrold , Sam Wanamaker , Paul Shenar , Blanche Baker , Robert Davi , Ed Lauter and Joe Regalbuto.

It displays an adequate cinematogrphy by director of photography Alex Thomson , shot in Chicago city . As well as atmospheric musical score composed y means of synthesizer by Boardman .The motion picture was professionally directed by John Irvin who managed to stage some excellent action scenes , stunning scenarios and clever edition. Irvin has made some thrilling action and wartime movies such as : Dogs of war , Hamburger Hill, When Trumpets Fade , The Fourth Angel , Freefall , Shinner , Next of kin , Robin Hood , City of industry , among others. Rating : 6/10. Acceptable and passable . An Arnold typical vehicle that will appeal to his fans . Worthwhile seeing .

I own this movie. Well, I own most of Arnold's movies. But I've only watched this one 3 or 4 times over the last decade. It's not a great movie although I think I enjoy it a little bit more with each viewing. The flick does have its moments. I like the interplay between Max and Brenner. And Arnold plays a very cool Mafia-like guy. The ending -- if you could even call it that -- is terrible. Did the script say, "Insert ending here"? Nevertheless, I liked the action even if it was corny at times. And the style of the movie grows on you with each viewing. I give it a 6/10 for been slightly more enjoyable than average.

A routine 80s action film elevated considerably by the presence of then rising star Arnold Schwarzenegger, Raw Deal is one of Arnold's earlier screen appearances, and more forgotten action movies.

There's really nothing to set it apart. A super cop taking down a gang of criminals. That's the plot. The undercover plot was interesting, but there was a weird abundance of plot for such a bland-looking action film.

The action scenes are the film's strength for sure. The action abounds here, with a great opening shootout, car/motorcycle chase, bar fight, alley fight, store fight, car chase, and the long climax consisting of two long and awesome shootouts. There's a long shootout where Arnold drives around in a car shooting fools to the tune of "Satisfaction" by The Rolling Stones. The best part? He puts the tape into the player at the start of the scene.

This is a severely blood-soaked action film, even by 80s standards, with lots of bloody violence. It's a little excessive. It also has an underrated acting performance from Arnold, a cool rocky 80s theme, and one of the best gear-up scenes ever. It's almost as good as the one in Hot Fuzz (2007).

Definitely give it a watch if you're an Arnold fan, or even an 80s action junkie. I still can't get over the greatness of the gloriously OTT final shootouts. This movie is painfully Arnold, and I love it.

Raw Deal is saved from being barely a five out of ten, to a solid six literally by the last half of this film which turns in a typical, rather campy action, vengeance follow up that redeems the rather drab slow moving plot of the rest of the film. Say what you will about Arnold Schwarzenegger, the man's films have grossed well over two and a half BILLION dollars in an almost four decade career. Now I will grant that some bad actors pull off some lucky films but practically every film this man stars in rakes in the cash from the infamous and classic Terminator films to Jingle All The Way (which by the way grossed over 100 million dollars.) It's true that his acting range is limited but Arnold has two incredible things going for him...his personality both on screen and off and he is a bad ass. He's the perfect action hero, when someone says action hero, you think Schwarzenegger!! He's built like a brick wall, has the face of an angry man and that trademark voice. If he can't blow it up put him in an unusual situation so that it's funny (ie: Pregnant, Kingergarten Teacher, twin to a 4 foot high fat man) and you've got gold. Raw Deal isn't quite that gold but it still is during his high time as the action King.

Raw Deal is a stereotypical story of a former FBI man who goes undercover for a personal vendetta on behalf of his mentor and best friend. The story is a little slow and spends far too much time establishing all these supposed drama between the two warring mob factions, the Patrovita crime family, and the Lamanski crime family. This film isn't a drama and should have just been about the action but instead director John Irvin tries to make it more of a tale than it needs to be. Schwarzenegger's cover is ridiculous and they barely spend any time setting it up which is only noticeable because of the slow break in him KILLING THINGS!!! Plot holes are not noticeable if there lots of gory action especially in an eighties flick!! But finally Schwarzenegger has had his fill and goes on a rampage wiping out both families and getting his revenge. The acting from everyone involved in the film is sub standard and extremely campy. The film will always be a classic likely for it's campy special effects and downright absurd action scenes. Schwarzenegger sprays a machine gun like a bottle of windex. The explosions and gunfire is also done with campy goodness so fans of that type of film will love this. You can't help but watch Schwarzenegger, he's just fun...he always looks like he's having a great time. Raw Deal is not one of his best by any means but it's not bad and if you're a fan of the eighties action genre like I am or even just Schwarzenegger himself than you need to see this one. But if you're not a fan and you're just looking for an action film, steer clear of this one because there is far better out there. This one falls face first for most of it and only recovers in the later half of the film. 6/10

Don't be angry with me for only awarding "Raw Deal" 5 stars out of 10. It's a 'strong, almost a 6' 5, not a 'weak, barely above a 4' 5. If that makes any sense.

I think that part of the problem is that I saw this after I saw "Terminator" and "Commando", and it was a bit of a let-down. (And I might have been suffering from a bit of "Schwarzenegger-overexposure".) Arnold is a bit wasted here. It's as if someone mistakenly cast him in a role meant for someone like Chuck Norris. Let's face it, this is a smaller scale movie with a seemingly smaller budget; Dolph Lundgren or Rutger Hauer or Micheal Biehn or even that guy from "Eddie And The Cruisers" could have filled in for the S-man in this movie and you would hardly have noticed the difference, except for a few one-liners. Not to mention the director for "Raw Deal" seemed to be nowhere near Cameron's or Lester's class. Same thing goes for the cast (with all respect to Darren McGavin and Robert Davi). Kathryn Harrold is not a substitute for Linda Hamilton. She's OK, but she's a Ford Taurus to Hamilton's Corvette Stingray.

There are pacing problems, too. The screenwriter felt the need to include several filler sequences that are meant to advance the plot and fill in back story and give the other cast members something to do. But most of these sequences are pretty lackluster: a fistfight in a women's clothing store goes nowhere; a romantic confrontation between Davi and Harrold leaves no lasting impact (though it does let Harrold get off a good put-down line); and the 10 minute car chase scene where a crime boss winds up hamburger is an exercise in by-the-numbers padding if there ever was one (good sound design, though).

But the last 20 minutes serves as a payoff to the first part of the film, and it is basically one long bullet-fest. Arnold basically shoots everything short of LAWs and RPGs at the bad guys, and they obligingly miss with all their shots and fall over and die. None of this is staged with anything like the panache of the firefights in "Commando" or the desperate high speed run-and-gun highway fights in "Terminator". It's all very meat-and-potatoes stuff that wouldn't have be out of place in a typical Cannon/Golan-Globus production. But there's plenty of it, and the S-man is appropriately grim and indestructible, and any fan will be satisfied once the final bad guy goes down in the final hail of bullets.

After 3 viewings, I still don't understand why no one can hit the huge, slow-moving white guy when they shoot at him, but it's his movie, so I'll just attribute it to Arnold's penchant for bringing a Browning Automatic Rifle to a revolver fight, and let it pass.

And I don't discount this movie just because it was an Arnold vehicle - I felt that his follow-up "The Running Man" was a return to form (although still not as good as "Terminator" and "Commando").

Anyway, "Raw Deal" doesn't place in the top 5 (or even 10) Arnold films, but any Schwarzenegger completist will want to have it, and will probably find much to enjoy. And fans of "Crime Story" and gangster films in general will also find this to their liking.