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Murder Ordained

  • TV Movie
  • 1987
  • 3h 5m
IMDb RATING
7.0/10
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Murder Ordained (1987)
True CrimeCrimeDrama

Based on the true story of a bedroom-eyed Kansas preacher who decided that getting rid of his wife, and his secretary's husband, was the will of the Lord.Based on the true story of a bedroom-eyed Kansas preacher who decided that getting rid of his wife, and his secretary's husband, was the will of the Lord.Based on the true story of a bedroom-eyed Kansas preacher who decided that getting rid of his wife, and his secretary's husband, was the will of the Lord.

  • Director
    • Mike Robe
  • Writers
    • Mike Robe
    • James Steven Sadwith
  • Stars
    • Keith Carradine
    • JoBeth Williams
    • Kathy Bates
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    7.0/10
    418
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Mike Robe
    • Writers
      • Mike Robe
      • James Steven Sadwith
    • Stars
      • Keith Carradine
      • JoBeth Williams
      • Kathy Bates
    • 20User reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Nominated for 1 Primetime Emmy
      • 1 win & 2 nominations total

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    Keith Carradine
    Keith Carradine
    • Trooper John Rule
    JoBeth Williams
    JoBeth Williams
    • Lorna Anderson
    Kathy Bates
    Kathy Bates
    • Bobbi Birk
    Guy Boyd
    Guy Boyd
    • Mike Buckley
    Terence Knox
    Terence Knox
    • Martin Anderson
    Darrell Larson
    Darrell Larson
    • Ronald Stark
    John Goodman
    John Goodman
    • Hugh Rayburn
    Annabella Price
    • Sandy Bird
    Robert Harper
    Robert Harper
    • Warren
    Margot Rose
    Margot Rose
    • Nancy Horst
    M. Emmet Walsh
    M. Emmet Walsh
    • Vern Humphrey
    Terry Kinney
    Terry Kinney
    • Tom Bird
    Anne E. Curry
    Anne E. Curry
    • Loraine Rule
    Bruce French
    Bruce French
    • Bruce Linton
    Lee Garlington
    Lee Garlington
    • Lorna's Friend
    Don Hood
    Don Hood
    • Sergeant Clayton
    George McDaniel
    George McDaniel
    • Duane Stark
    Jason Barnhill
    • Jason Rule
    • Director
      • Mike Robe
    • Writers
      • Mike Robe
      • James Steven Sadwith
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    mkr-1

    Movie is so true to life

    This movie, I feel, is so true to life. It is one of those movies that grips you so deeply that is stays with you long after you have seen the movie. I keep wanting new information on the real people who committed this crime and I feel a movie that causes someone to do that is excellent. I thought some of the acting in it was a little over done, but all in all I think this movie deserves a 10 rating.
    10nonexistant_08

    For anyone that is interested...

    I know Tom Bird personally, he has been going to my church since he got out on parole. It came as a shock to me that we had a convicted murderer in my church when i found out in early high school. I don't know about Lorna, but Tom currently works at a catering business owned by a couple at church. He and his wife were also teaching the Sunday school class for high schoolers, i haven't been for a while so i don't know if they are still doing that or not. His wife is also the principal of the private school at the church. It is up to you to decide if he is innocent or guilty, and i don't have all the information, i haven't even read the whole book or seen the movie, but he is a very very weird man and i would not doubt he was guilty. He gave me the creeps from the very first time i met him, even before i realized who he was. It is some pretty freaky stuff to have a felon in your church.
    7Ajtlawyer

    pretty good

    This is a pretty good TV true-crime murder show. Emporia, Kansas minister Tom Bird takes up an affair with his floozy secretary, played by JoBeth Williams. They pray that God will let them be together by getting rid of their spouses for them. When God doesn't cooperate, they decide to give God some help and murder their spouses.

    Keith Carradine is state trooper John Rule who investigates the auto "accident" in which Mrs. Bird is killed. He's not a homicide investigator but he knows accidents and is certain that this was no accident. Rule pushes and pushes his investigation and runs into bureaucratic stone walls. His superiors only get interested in re-opening the case when Williams' husband is murdered along a highway.

    The acting in this picture is pretty good and look out particularly for John Goodman, who plays a sheriff investigating the second murder, and future Oscar winner Kathy Bates as a reporter. Carradine plays Trooper Rule with a very plain Kansas doggedness---think of perhaps Sheriff Andy Taylor doing a murder investigation but without any humor or bumbling deputy tagging along.

    I've looked up info about the real-life case and the movie. The two killers, Anderson and Bird, served very extended prison sentences but were eventually paroled and then released from any parole restrictions. Both were married and Bird is, weirdly enough, a marriage counselor now. Anderson still insists that it was Bird who killed her husband even though he got acquitted of that murder. Even stranger, Anderson's children are very reconciled to her despite her involvement in the murder of their father.

    The movie seems to have been as controversial in Emporia as the murders themselves. The movie came out before Bird's trial in the Martin Anderson murder and the investigators in that case didn't want to participate in any movie lest they ruin their case. So the filmmakers pumped up the role and involvement of Trooper Rule to make him a far bigger hero than he was in the real investigation. The town paper's journalist (the Kathy Bates character) later became mayor of Emporia and she said that Rule's role was extremely overblown and that it was actually a confidential informant who got the insider story to the press, not Rule. Over 25 years later, there still seemed to be a lot of resentment about how the movie portrayed the story. A weird side-note, the then Governor of Kansas appeared in the movie but as an extra, someone walking in at the newspaper office.

    None of the Emporia churches wanted anything to do with the movie so the exterior and interior scenes of the church were shot in Lawrence, Kansas. The movie does do an excellent job of picking up and depicting the rhythms of small-town Kansas life. Filmed entirely in Kansas locations, Kansas itself becomes a character in the story in much the same way that the character of the state was the back drop of the earlier true-crime movie, "In Cold Blood". Both movies depict cruel murders being committed by sociopaths and being confronted by the virtuous, pious, quietly hard-working small town Kansans.
    10Lechuguilla

    "Endureth All Things, Lorna"

    One of the best TV movies ever made, this riveting film tells the true-life story of the murder of a preacher's wife in rural Kansas in the early 1980s.

    In one long flashback that covers the year before the wife's death in a presumed accidental traffic mishap, the script meticulously evolves the sordid relations leading up to the tragedy and the suspicion of one highway patrolman that this was no accident. In time, an ongoing tangle of lurid involvement between the preacher and his attractive church secretary leads others to the same conclusion.

    As the truth of a conspiracy starts to emerge and with law enforcement closing in, the confidently smug pastor, Tom Bird (Terry Kinney) reassures his panicky co-conspirator, Lorna (JoBeth Williams) that everything will be okay. "Endureth all things, Lorna ... didn't God test Abraham in the same way?" Of course, his naïve parishioners stand by their man, no matter what.

    On-location filming in Kansas adds to the realism, as does court transcripts of some dialogue. Cinematography, production design, casting, and acting are all high quality. Editing is especially impressive. Yes, it's a long film, but the complex story involves conspiracy, murder, hit men, adultery, and possible incompetence in public office.

    The subject matter is unusual in that we don't normally think of a preacher as a murderer. That only happens in fictional stories. Yet the unbelievable is precisely what makes this film so mesmerizing. The events really happened. For that reason alone "Murder Ordained" is worth watching.
    7delanomino_2009

    Not as true as it could be

    Let me start out by saying, this movie was a wonderfully made movie. As said before, there is a bit of overacting, but in all it is a good movie.

    My grandfather, Vern Humphrey, worked on this case a great deal.. much more than the movie portrays. When the writers of this movie interviewed the detectives and officers that worked on the case they interviewed Vern Humphrey, and then John Rule. John Rule told the correct events; however, he did not tell the correct people that worked on the case, hence him being the key 'trooper' in this movie. It is sad that the wrong people were credited in this movie, but there is not much anyone can do now.

    I wish this movie was more true to life. So many believe that this movie is spot on. A good movie, good actors/actresses, sets. I am pleased with the quality of this movie and encourage those who know nothing about the murder story to watch it. Just be aware of the errors.

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    • Trivia
      Based on events in Emporia, Kansas, from 1983 to 1987. Lorna Anderson was paroled in 2007; Tom Bird was paroled in 2004--and announced his intention to work as a marriage counselor.
    • Connections
      Features The Little Princess (1939)

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    • Release date
      • May 3, 1987 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Blutige Hände
    • Filming locations
      • Emporia, Kansas, USA
    • Production companies
      • Braun Entertainment Group
      • Interscope
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    • Runtime
      • 3h 5m(185 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.33 : 1

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