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Men Without Women

  • 1930
  • Passed
  • 1h 17m
IMDb RATING
6.0/10
448
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Frank Albertson and Kenneth MacKenna in Men Without Women (1930)
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U.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.U.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.U.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.

  • Director
    • John Ford
  • Writers
    • John Ford
    • James Kevin McGuinness
    • Dudley Nichols
  • Stars
    • Kenneth MacKenna
    • Frank Albertson
    • J. Farrell MacDonald
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.0/10
    448
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • John Ford
    • Writers
      • John Ford
      • James Kevin McGuinness
      • Dudley Nichols
    • Stars
      • Kenneth MacKenna
      • Frank Albertson
      • J. Farrell MacDonald
    • 10User reviews
    • 9Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 3 wins total

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    Kenneth MacKenna
    Kenneth MacKenna
    • Chief Torpedoman Burke
    Frank Albertson
    Frank Albertson
    • Ens. Albert Edward Price
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    • Costello
    • (as Farrell Macdonald)
    Warren Hymer
    Warren Hymer
    • Kaufman
    Paul Page
    Paul Page
    • Handsome
    Walter McGrail
    Walter McGrail
    • Joe Cobb
    Stuart Erwin
    Stuart Erwin
    • Jenkins - Radioman
    George LeGuere
    George LeGuere
    • Curly Pollock
    Charles K. Gerrard
    Charles K. Gerrard
    • Cmdr. Weymouth
    • (as Charles Gerrard)
    Ben Hendricks Jr.
    • Murphy
    Harry Tenbrook
    Harry Tenbrook
    • Dutch Winkler
    Warner Richmond
    Warner Richmond
    • Lt. Cmdr. Briddwell
    Frank Baker
    Frank Baker
    • Seaman
    • (uncredited)
    Wong Chung
    Wong Chung
    • Chinese Man in Shanghai Bar
    • (uncredited)
    Ivan Lebedeff
    Ivan Lebedeff
    • Man in Bar with Top Hat
    • (uncredited)
    Alberto Morin
    Alberto Morin
    • Postcard Seller
    • (uncredited)
    Frank Richardson
    Frank Richardson
    • Singing Sailor in Shanghai
    • (uncredited)
    Pat Somerset
    Pat Somerset
    • Lt. Digby
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • John Ford
    • Writers
      • John Ford
      • James Kevin McGuinness
      • Dudley Nichols
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    8darkcollins

    An Underrated Early Sound Gem From Director John Ford

    The full sound version of this early talking John Ford film remains lost but thankfully this international work-print with inter-titles for dialogue and narration (and some sound) has survived and is preserved by the Museum of Modern Art. Up to now, this film was only available from VHS recordings of AMC's Film Preservation Festival from 1999.

    After being called back to their ship during liberty in Shanghai, the sailors of the S-13 are struck by another passing vessel and sink to the bottom of the ocean. While waiting to be rescued and with oxygen levels dwindling, the men of the S-13 fight for their lives and sometimes each other in suspenseful anticipation to see who will make it out alive.

    In addition to Ford's direction, the cast of characters makes the movie an enjoyable experience and makes you care for each of their fates. Kenneth McKenna as the Naval officer with a secret, young Frank Albertson as a rookie ensign who is unexpectedly thrust into being a leader for his men, Warren Hymer as a ruffian sailor hiding a heart of gold, young Stu Erwin as the S-13's radioman and Ford stock player J. Farrell McDonald as the old navy veteran. Be on the lookout towards the end of the film for young John Wayne as a radioman up on the surface.

    The film has been restored for Fox's MOD DVD release and I've never seen it clearer and more beautiful. Kudos to everyone involved in getting this film restored and released because it's a true unsung gem in John Ford's very long directorial career.
    7rfkeser

    Early talkie curiosity: uneven but entertaining.

    A sailors-trapped-in-a-sinking-submarine drama: Will they drown? Will the oxygen run out? Will they suffocate from chlorine gas? Will divers get to them in time? And what about that religious fanatic on board? John Ford skillfully ratchets up the tension, but some shaky special effects, unlikely characterizations and broad acting give an uneven effect, compared to later and slicker entertainments like RUN SILENT, RUN DEEP. However, this production has genuine historical value because it shows the difficulties in changing over from silent to sound,: sometimes it's a silent film with sound effects and [tinny] music. Other scenes have dialogue with one character actually speaking while another answers in silent intertitles. Most oddly, sometimes a character starts speaking, then an intertitle shows noticeably different lines, then the character finishes speaking. Not many movies have such a variety of expression.
    7davidmvining

    Ford sticks the Landing

    John Ford was really good with endings, I'm beginning to realize. It's been obvious that his greatest strength up to this point in his career was bringing in a bunch of different narrative pieces into a singular set piece. The overall strength of the film really depended on the quality of what came before. Oftentimes the films are simply too short for the amount that goes in, but there's a very nice balance to be found in Men Without Women. The opening is very loose, but we get a surprisingly focused situation through the final half of the film that ends really well.

    The only existing copy of Men Without Women left is an international edition. Filmed for sound in English, the copy left uses English intertitles (I believe they were recreated decades later) while the original sound is either gone completely or heavily muffled and out of synch with the picture. I was thinking of how the British film system had decided to film two copies of Alfred Hitchcock's Murder!, the German version being titled Mary (similar to the American and Spanish versions of the classic Dracula). It really seems like studios in the early talkie era really had no idea how to release films in markets with different languages. Subtitles would eventually come along, but until then, studios were going in all kinds of directions.

    Anyway, the weird way this copy still exists doesn't really negatively affect the film overall too much. It's obvious that it was filmed for sound, and the worst part is when intertitles come up in conversations on film obviously directed for sound, breaking the flow of scenes in more pronounced ways than in naturally silent films.

    Anyway, it's the story of a naval crew on a submarine leaving port from China. The first fifteen minutes or so is the crew ending their shore leave. This is the sort of side-character loving stuff that Ford had become well-known for. There are sailors buying vases for their mothers back home, some looking for good times with prostitutes (this was pre-Code), and generally just getting really drunk (again, pre-Code). It's lightly amusing stuff, but it obfuscates who this story is actually about. Our first clue to who the center of this story comes as the sub leaves dock and the captain of a battleship seems to recognize one of the sailors, the chief torpedoman Burke (Kenneth MacKenna). In addition, the character of Albert Price (Frank Albertson) from Salute appears, graduated as an ensign, as the newest member of the crew, coming aboard for his first voyage with the ship.

    Something goes wrong very soon after they leave port. The engine room floods, killing everyone there and stalling the ship, keeping it from moving. There's also damage to both torpedo tubes, and the men cannot get off the ship. The bulk of the film is the crew on the submarine's bridge, left with Ensign Price as the senior officer, trying to buy time with their limited oxygen supply while the radio operator sends out S. O. S. Messages. The crew grows increasingly frantic with Burke keeping hold of the oxygen tank, trying to slowly dose out the gas to elongate the crew's ability to survive (I'm not entirely sure how doling it out in small bits would be great for survival, but sure). People go crazy, and one even needs to get shot.

    The truth of Burke's past begins to come out at the same time. It turns out that he was a British officer, a captain of a ship that got sunk on a secret mission that, the court marshal determined, was either his fault or the fault of Burke's girl back home in England. He knows that he didn't give up the information, it was probably her. However, because the crown sees him as killed in action, they laid the blame on him. He then took on a new identity of join the American navy. Concurrently, we hear about Ensign Price's girl back home, and how he wants to go back to her.

    Time goes on, and a destroyer receives their message and comes to rescue them. However, it is of course the ship captained by the man who could identify Burke's past and take him back to England. The torpedo tube gets cleared, allowing the surviving men to be released from the sub one at a time, but one man will have to stay behind to shoot the second to last man out, doomed to stay and die with the ship. Ensign Price, as the commanding officer, decides that it must be him who stays behind, however, Burke can't go up and not only face his own previous failings of not having gone down with his previous ship but also make it known that his girl back in England is a traitor. It's the kind of perfect little encapsulation of events that the movie rather adeptly builds up to. This conflict of duties in two men bound by duty is really well executed.

    The first half is loose and sometimes hard to follow. The second half is clear-eyed and comes to a great conclusion. The health of the existing print means that we'll never see it as originally released in America, but I think it's good enough on its own. It's a solid story of men in the military, a favorite subject of Ford's, and I think it ends up working quite well.
    5boblipton

    Despite Joe August's Lighting, Just Another Ford Movie To Check Off Your List

    A submarine strikes another boa and sinks too fast for its crew to escape. Can help reach them in time? And what of Chief Torpedoman Kenneth MacKenna, who is hiding a very nasty secret?

    John Ford's very early talkie survives at the Museum of Modern Art, whence copies have leaked, and they are most peculiar copies indeed; DP Joseph August's camerawork is very well preserved, full of smoke and fog, and tricks of the trade he had been plying since he was working for Thomas Ince. But the soundtrack has survived only in bits and pieces, or it was shot as a silent with a few stray lines recorded. The result is another of those incredibly talky silent movies, where every every shot, it seems is punctuated by a long title. The closest you come to well remembered actors are Stu Erwin and J. Farrell MacDonald -- John Wayne is supposed to be present briefly as a radioman, but as usual, I missed him. Still, it is a John Ford movie, which means something to completists, and August's images are beautiful. But I don't know what they would have done with women on the bottom of the ocean.
    7Theo Robertson

    You Have To Remember The Context

    An American submarine crashes in to a cargo ship off the coast of China and the surviving crew members await rescue

    Yeah you've seen this type of movie a few times before . This one is slightly different because it's set in peace time , is directed by John Ford and comes from 1930 which was an era when talkies were making a breakthrough

    Actually you have to take onboard as to what films were like in those days. THE JAZZZ SINGER was the first talky but films didn't explode in to full length talkies until a couple of years later and films in the last year of the 1920s often used sound and dialogue as an aural impact aesthetic. In this case MEN WITHOUT WOMEN is somewhat typical featuring a few spoken scenes , sound effects and caption cards featuring dialogue

    For the story itself a bunch of men trapped in in a slowly flooding submarine is a movie cliché but to be fair it wouldn't have been in 1930. Narrative wise it also contradicts itself by having a song and dance number featuring a female of the species . As it stands this early John Ford remains interesting for a number of reason including having John Wayne in an uncredited cameo without being any type of masterpiece

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    • Trivia
      The only extant sound version is actually from a work print for the International version. It's held by the Museum of Modern Art.
    • Alternate versions
      The only existing version is in the Museum of Modern Art and runs 73 minutes. The credits differ widely from those listed in the AFI Catalogue, probably because this was a working print, as explained in the trivia section.
    • Connections
      Features Salute (1929)
    • Soundtracks
      How Dry I Am
      (uncredited)

      Traditional

      Background music in the Shanghai Bar

      Reprised as sailors stagger aboard ship

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    • Release date
      • February 9, 1930 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Zemlja brez žen
    • Filming locations
      • Santa Catalina Island, Channel Islands, California, USA
    • Production company
      • Fox Film Corporation
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 17m(77 min)
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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