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Little Old New York

  • 1940
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  • 1h 40m
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6.4/10
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Alice Faye, Richard Greene, Brenda Joyce, and Fred MacMurray in Little Old New York (1940)
BiographyComedyDramaHistoryRomance

Steamboat inventor Robert Fulton shows up in New York in 1807. Tavern keeper Pat O'Day believes in him, but her boyfriend doesn't. All seems lost after sailors, afraid of losing their jobs, ... Read allSteamboat inventor Robert Fulton shows up in New York in 1807. Tavern keeper Pat O'Day believes in him, but her boyfriend doesn't. All seems lost after sailors, afraid of losing their jobs, burn his boat.Steamboat inventor Robert Fulton shows up in New York in 1807. Tavern keeper Pat O'Day believes in him, but her boyfriend doesn't. All seems lost after sailors, afraid of losing their jobs, burn his boat.

  • Director
    • Henry King
  • Writers
    • Harry Tugend
    • John L. Balderston
    • Rida Johnson Young
  • Stars
    • Alice Faye
    • Fred MacMurray
    • Richard Greene
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.4/10
    280
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Henry King
    • Writers
      • Harry Tugend
      • John L. Balderston
      • Rida Johnson Young
    • Stars
      • Alice Faye
      • Fred MacMurray
      • Richard Greene
    • 13User reviews
    • 2Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Alice Faye
    Alice Faye
    • Pat O'Day
    Fred MacMurray
    Fred MacMurray
    • Charles Brownne
    Richard Greene
    Richard Greene
    • Robert Fulton
    Brenda Joyce
    Brenda Joyce
    • Harriet Livingston
    Andy Devine
    Andy Devine
    • 'Commodore'
    Henry Stephenson
    Henry Stephenson
    • Robert R. Livingston
    Fritz Feld
    Fritz Feld
    • Tavern Keeper
    Ward Bond
    Ward Bond
    • Regan
    Clarence Wilson
    Clarence Wilson
    • Willie Stout
    • (as Clarence Hummel Wilson)
    Robert Middlemass
    Robert Middlemass
    • Nicholas Roosevelt
    Roger Imhof
    Roger Imhof
    • John Jacob Astor
    Theodore von Eltz
    Theodore von Eltz
    • Washington Irving
    • (as Theodore Von Eltz)
    Arthur Aylesworth
    Arthur Aylesworth
    • Sea Captain
    Virginia Brissac
    Virginia Brissac
    • Mrs. Brevoort
    Stanley Andrews
    Stanley Andrews
    • Patrol Captain
    Ben Carter
    Ben Carter
    • Noah
    Oscar 'Dutch' Hendrian
    • Blackie
    • (as O.G. Hendrian)
    Harry Tyler
    Harry Tyler
    • Helmsman
    • Director
      • Henry King
    • Writers
      • Harry Tugend
      • John L. Balderston
      • Rida Johnson Young
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    8jjnxn-1

    Remarkably enjoyable

    Though it probably has zip to do with the actual story of Robert Fulton and the invention and manufacture of the first steam engine this is a very pleasant little drama with light overtones. That's mainly due to the cast, all very competent performers who have a nice chemistry together.

    Alice Faye, not singing this time, is full of brassy snap as the most virtuous waterfront innkeeper who never existed who longs to leave the docks behind and become a lady. She's matched by Fred MacMurray full of cheery bonhomie as a shipbuilder, the now amusingly named Charley Brownne, who has a yen for Alice. Richard Greene is a bit of a stick as Fulton but he and Brenda Joyce make an attractive pair. And Andy Devine is along to add his squeaky voiced charm as a buddy of the lead pair.

    The title, an obvious attempt by Fox to conjure up thoughts of Alice's big hit of a few years before, In Old Chicago, has very little to do with the picture. You hardly see any outdoor shots of the city but the interior sets are handsomely mounted if unimaginatively lit as you'd expect for a Fox feature for their top star.

    If you're looking for a history lesson about the progress of navigation during the country's early years you won't find it here but if a enjoyable diversion for about an hour and a half is what you seek this will fill the bill. Nothing spectacular but a nice hidden gem for fans of the stars.
    8scrufboy

    How steam powered ships broke onto the scene!

    Nothing deep, but an interesting Hollywood-ized account of the development of steam propeled ships. Imagine... being able to propel a vessel upstream even into the wind! But at what risk? The current economy's support? And how do you pay for the thing?!?! Additionally, you have a young country out to protect its interests... but what if it acted Isolationistically? Would you be able to pursue your dreams? If the overdeveloped subplots of "Sink the Bismark" did'nt offend your sensibilities greatly, you will enjoy this yarn.
    5HotToastyRag

    Alice in a drama

    In this historical drama, Richard Greene stars as the designer of the steamboat. At first, no one's interested enough to finance his project, but with the help of his new friends, the low class but tenacious Fred MacMurray and Alice Faye, he shows his model to more and more people. Added into the mix are brawny bully Ward Bond, silly sailor Andy Devine, and Ben Carter, Alice's hired hand whom she treats terribly and always accuses of stealing drinks.

    A warning for all Alice Faye fans: it's just as obvious that she's out of Richard's league as it is that she's falling in love with him, and it's a bit sad. Richard falls for Brenda Joyce and her wealthy uncle Henry Stephenson, who's financing his steamboat. Alice looks very cute in this movie, and it's not fun to see her getting her heart broken over a fellow who isn't worth it-which, let's face it, is the only type of fellow who goes around breaking hearts. Also, this isn't a musical, and the only song, "Who Is the Beau of the Belle of New York," is sung and danced to during an outdoor celebration. It's a very cute song, but so brief that this movie qualifies as one of Alice's only non-singing roles.
    5planktonrules

    Historical nonsense....

    This is an incredibly fictionalized account of the work of Robert Fulton to make the first American steamship. Alice Faye, Fred MacMurray and Ward Bond are there...even though they really were inventions of the playwright to first came up with this story. As a history lesson, it comes up lacking! What follows is sort of a comic book version of history--the sort of thing that Hollywood often did in their highly fictionalize 'true stories'.

    So is this any good? Well, it looks nice. Twentieth Century-Fox made lovely looking films and the music and glitz are all present in this expensive production. It's also mildly entertaining...but slight. No great drama or comedy here...just another highly fictionalized film along the same lines as "In Old Chicago" and nothing more.
    6theowinthrop

    Our first great national invention

    I only saw this film in the 1960s, and memories of it are somewhat sparse. I recall Richard Greene trying to get financing for his steamboat, and finding roadblocks by various troublemakers, mostly local sailors who realize that steam power will hurt their sail oriented business. One moment that was well handled is the burning of the original "Claremont" (the actual name of the boat was "the North River Steamboat of Claremont" - Claremont was the name of the country estate of Chancellor Robert Livingston, Fulton's backer and brother-in-law). Another moment of the film was Greene's confusing meeting with Victor Killian, introduced to him as "Mr. DeWitt" (Greene thinks it's DeWitt Clinton - Killian is actually a thug trying to create a scene in which Greene can be beaten up). Alice Faye is given a song or two to sing, and is the love interest of MacMurray (who is also momentarily jealous of Greene, but still supports the steamboat at the end).

    If one is really interested in the story of this invention - our first really important invention in the industrial revolution - read James Flexner's "Steamboats Come True". The actual first inventor was John Fitch, who made a successful steamboat that ran to and from Philadelphia in 1790 - 1792). Fitch was clever, but he did not know how to make a plan of the invention that could enable him to rebuild a second working steamboat. It was a hit or miss thing with Fitch. In 1798 he committed suicide in Kentucky. Besides Fitch there were other inventors (Oliver Evans, James Rumsey), but Fulton had engineering training, and was able to make patents that could be followed to repeat his invention again and again. So 1807 is the year we usually credit for the invention of the steamboat.

    Yet oddly enough this is the only sound film of Fulton's invention that was made in Hollywood. I suspect it is because the Claremont was a prototype that lacked the glamor of later vessels (those that plied the Mississippi River from 1828 - 1900), and that (with a few tourist exceptions) no longer matters to us. More films dealing with railway and car transportation have been made - even more about aviation and submarines. So I suspect there will never be a more solid look at Fulton's career as artist, submarine pioneer, and steamboat developer. There is another film where Fulton pops up: "Austerlitz", a French film made in the 1950s where Orson Welles appeared as Fulton trying (in 1804-05) to interest Napoleon I in his submarine. That's about it. Maybe one day a serious film on Fulton will be made. Until then we have "Little Old New York".

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    • Trivia
      The play opened on Broadway in New York City, New York, USA on 8 September 1920 and closed in June 1921 after 303 performances. The opening night cast included Genevieve Tobin as Pat O'Day, Douglas Wood, as Cornelius Vanderbuilt and Donald Meek.
    • Goofs
      The hairstyles of the women are from the time the film was made, not from the early 1800s.
    • Quotes

      Regan: [to Fulton] Why, you dribblin' young pup - I'll break you in two!

    • Connections
      Referenced in Star Dust (1940)
    • Soundtracks
      Who Is the Beau of the Belle Of New York
      (1940) (uncredited)

      Music and Lyrics by Mack Gordon

      Performed by Tyler Brooke and joined by Alice Faye and other dancing patrons of Krausmeyer's Pavillion

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    • Release date
      • February 9, 1940 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Hertiginnan från hamnkvarteret
    • Filming locations
      • Stage 9, 20th Century Fox Studios - 10201 Pico Blvd., Century City, Los Angeles, California, USA(Studio)
    • Production company
      • Twentieth Century Fox
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 40m(100 min)
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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