And Ma Makes Three

Episode aired Feb 20, 1988
TV-PG
30m

IMDb RATING

7.3/10

483

YOUR RATING

Estelle Getty in The Golden Girls (1985)

Comedy Drama

Sophia, depressed over the departure of her best friend, becomes a third wheel in Dorothy's promising relationship with a new boyfriend.Sophia, depressed over the departure of her best friend, becomes a third wheel in Dorothy's promising relationship with a new boyfriend.Sophia, depressed over the departure of her best friend, becomes a third wheel in Dorothy's promising relationship with a new boyfriend.

Director
- Terry Hughes
Writers
- Susan Harris
- Winifred Hervey
Stars

See production info at IMDbPro

IMDb RATING

7.3/10

483

YOUR RATING

Director
- Terry Hughes
Writers
- Susan Harris
- Winifred Hervey
Stars

4User reviews

See production info at IMDbPro

Photos

Top cast7

Edit

Bea Arthur

Dorothy Zbornak
(as Beatrice Arthur)

Betty White

Rose Nylund

Rue McClanahan

Blanche Devereaux

Estelle Getty

Sophia Petrillo

James Karen

Raymond

Frank Smith

Duncan

Steven M. Porter

Waiter
(as Steve Porter)

Director
- Terry Hughes
Writers
- Susan Harris
- Winifred Hervey
All cast & crew
Production, box office & more at IMDbPro

User reviews4

7.3483

Featured reviews

7moonspinner55

"That's what the crow said!"

S03-E20 is a very funny episode wherein Sophia is feeling lonesome after her best friend has moved away and Dorothy, wanting to help out, invites her to come golfing with she and her new beau (a charming James Karen)--but the couple is unable to shake Sophia's company afterwards. Meanwhile, Blanche and Rose are in the running for Fashion Show Chairman of the Tinkerbells (Blanche: "You can't be Fashion Show Chairman, Rose, you thought Giorgio Armani was a puppet on Ed Sullivan!"). Bea Arthur has to take a lot of good-natured ribbing here, but it's nice to see her being romantic with a man (the studio audience clearly appreciates it too), and Betty White gets a hilarious St. Olaf story about Sonia Klingenhoffer ("You two come back here or I'll be forced to follow you to your rooms and act it out with sock puppets!").

8Sleepin_Dragon

Beware the dreaded gooseberry.

Dorothy is dating a man she met at The Grocery store, Raymond, but a depressed Sophia encroaches on their relationship, spending time with them. Blanche runs for Fashion show Chairman and enlists Blanche for help.

Sophia The gooseberry, poor Raymond, you have to feel for him, who on Earth could start dating someone, and have their mother in toe, a chilling thought indeed.

There are to be fair some very funny scenes, that moment where Dorothy asks Rose and Blanche for help in choosing pearls or a chain, the responses were hilarious, however, this one is tinged with sadness. It deals with Blanche's relationship with Sophia, the way she puts her first, and Sophia's loneliness.

I'm not sure how or why, but it put me in mind of Steptoe and Son, with Harold desperate for love and life, but shackled to his father, it felt a little similar.

8/10.

Trivia
Classic TV buffs will recognize guest star James Karen in this episode as the patient-weary boyfriend of Dorothy. He is known for portraying nastiness as well. Two of his most infamous characters in TV have been the greedy proprietor who causes the people of Walnut Grove on "Little House on the Prairie" to blow up their town to prevent him from taking ownership of their property. The other is as a despicable racist who tries to force all black people out of the apartment building where "The Jeffersons" live.

Goofs
When Sofia packs for her trip, she folds a blue shirt twice.

Quotes
Dorothy Zbornak: [Entering living room holding up two necklaces to her outfit] Ok, girls. Which goes better? The silver chain, or the pearls?
Rose Nylund: The chain.
Blanche Devereaux: [Matter of factly to Rose while gesturing to Dorothy] An amateur's mistake. Can't you see that the chain accentuates the many folds of that turkey like neck?
Rose Nylund: [Stands up and walks over to Dorothy to highlight her rebuttal critique to Blanche] Well that may be, but the pearls draw attention to the nonexistent bosom.
Blanche Devereaux: [Stands up looking Dorothy over again, saying to Rose] Yes, but, the chain leads the eye even lower to that huge spare tire
[pauses, motioning to Dorothy's abdomen, then continues]
Blanche Devereaux: jutting out over those square manly hips.
Dorothy Zbornak: [Sarcastically and agitated] Why don't I just wear a sign that says 'too ugly to live'?
Blanche Devereaux: [to Dorothy] Fine, but what are you going to hang it from, the chain or the pearls?
Dorothy Zbornak: [Snapping back] Neither! I'm going to spray paint it on my hump!